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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:09 AM
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i found this PAC SOEM-4

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...AC-SOEM-4.html

what u think?
Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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DO U THINK I BE BETTHER OF GETTING A HEADUNIT WITH 4V OR THE CONVERTER
PLS GIVE ME A MODEL NUMBER OR LINK .. THANK YOU
I THINK YOU SHOULD NOT WRITE IN ALL CAPS.

Up to you. Does your current HU serve your purposes? If it does, then leave it, an LOC is only $25.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_142SLC4/Scosche-SLC4.html
Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lt.Tealc
i found this PAC SOEM-4

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...AC-SOEM-4.html

what u think?
This works too.
Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:14 AM
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djfrestyl thanks for your help i will update once i get it installed.. LOL @ CAPS
Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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My pleasure, happy to help - best of luck!
Old Apr 26, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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Tell them it was wired correctly and to either put it back in or get your money back for the rewiring labor.
That happened a few months back, im sure its too late now. I just going to go back with the Scosche to be safe, hopefully I have no problems. Preciate the help!
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Another victim of a shop that 'knows' how to work with the Bose system.

Happy to help, good luck sorting it out!
Old Apr 30, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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No, in fact I leave the dimmer wire disconnected in every install.

The illumination however, you should connect.
What's the difference of illumination and the dimmer? Sorry dumb question.
Old May 1, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Illlumination wire is positive, tells the radio when to illuminate the display.

Dimmer (aka negative dimmer) is the wire that dims the aforementioned display - similar to the dimmer wheel on the left side of your dash.

However, as mentioned, don't bother with dimmer.
Old May 2, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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W/O bOSE SYSTEM

W\WHAT ABOUT WITH OUT THE BOSE SYSTEM? WHAT I HAVE NOW IS JUNK. BUT HAVE TWEETERS 4 DOOR SPEAKERS AND 2 WOOFER (6X9) THIS IS ALL JUNK . i HAVE AFTERMAKET STEREO , AMPS WOOFERS AND DONT KNOW WHERE TO START
Old May 2, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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1. Ease up on the caps
2. Use proper punctuation and coherent sentences.

3. Maximas without Bose system can be wired up in standard fashion. Start with replacing the head unit.
Old May 3, 2012 | 05:23 AM
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i HAVE A NON BOSE SYSTEM... BUT THERE IS A LITTLE AMP IN BETWEEN THE 6X9 SUBS IN TRUNK. i PLAN ON PUTTING IN A AFTERMARKET HU IN ALONG WITH MY AMP AND SUBS. COULD I REPLACE THE 6X9 SUBS WITH REGULAR 6X9 AND RUN THEM OFF THE DOOR SPEAKERS AND HAVE MY SUBS IN THE TRUNK? DO I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING SPECIAL BEHIND THE HD BESIDE TIEING IN THE DOOR SPEAKERS AND THE 6X9 SPEAKERS TOGETHERS? ( 04 MAXIMA ) I HAVE THE METRA 70-7550 KIT....DO I NEED ANYTHING ELSE?
2. QUESTION HID LIGHTS ???LOLOL AND A IDIOT COMES TO THIS ... I WANT WHITE /WHITE/ RUNING LIGHTS NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE HIGH BEAMS.ANY SUGGESTIONS BECAUSE ALL THIS 6000K AND 9006 AND 9005 STUFF CONFUSSING ME. shoot sorry about the caps !!! please forgive me guys no disrepect....
Old May 3, 2012 | 05:42 AM
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You noticed you used caps again yet you did nothing about it. Please edit or re-post your post so that it's coherent.

I'm happy to help, but you have to help us help you..by making it easier to read.
Old May 28, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Hi.. i need some help i recentley changed my bose HU with JVC KWR500 and ready to replace my speakers.. when i turn the audio up the sound gets distorted and i am pretty sure my bose speakers are dying.

any way i am thinkg about these Polk Audio DB6501 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component System.

my Q is will these work fine without changing the bose sub amp.. i read that bose amp/bose will not work with any aftermarket speaker?

do i have to get an amp/sub or can my headunit that has 2.5 v preamp power them?

last Q how easy are they to install i did the headunit install my self after hours of research and i found it not difficult. is it just plugging the existing cables or do i have to rewire.. thank thank i know i ask alot

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Old May 29, 2012 | 06:36 AM
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Hi.. i need some help i recentley changed my bose HU with JVC KWR500 and ready to replace my speakers.. when i turn the audio up the sound gets distorted and i am pretty sure my bose speakers are dying.

any way i am thinkg about these Polk Audio DB6501 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component System.

my Q is will these work fine without changing the bose sub amp.. i read that bose amp/bose will not work with any aftermarket speaker?

do i have to get an amp/sub or can my headunit that has 2.5 v preamp power them?

last Q how easy are they to install i did the headunit install my self after hours of research and i found it not difficult. is it just plugging the existing cables or do i have to rewire.. thank thank i know i ask alot
If it's getting distorted at high volumes then it's not wired properly. What adapters did you use? Have you read this thread in its entirety?

The terminology which you're using is all wrong. 2.5v has nothing to do with powering your aftermarket speakers. You can't use a sub amp to power speakers. And you DEFINITELY cannot use either of the Bose amps to power those aftermarket speakers.

Your aftermarket radio can power your aftermarket speakers. But they need a direct line. You have two options:

1. Run a speaker wire from your head unit into each door, to each aftermarket speaker.
2. Keep the wiring as is, disconnect the Bose amp, run jumper's between the 'input' and the 'output' wires at the Bose amp. This will create that straight continuity from HU to speaker.

I heavily advise seeking a professional or local org member to teach you. Where are you located?
Old May 29, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
If it's getting distorted at high volumes then it's not wired properly. What adapters did you use? Have you read this thread in its entirety?

The terminology which you're using is all wrong. 2.5v has nothing to do with powering your aftermarket speakers. You can't use a sub amp to power speakers. And you DEFINITELY cannot use either of the Bose amps to power those aftermarket speakers.

Your aftermarket radio can power your aftermarket speakers. But they need a direct line. You have two options:

1. Run a speaker wire from your head unit into each door, to each aftermarket speaker.
2. Keep the wiring as is, disconnect the Bose amp, run jumper's between the 'input' and the 'output' wires at the Bose amp. This will create that straight continuity from HU to speaker.

I heavily advise seeking a professional or local org member to teach you. Where are you located?

when i first installed it i was having what every one else was very low volume

with the 7551. then did some research and went with 7550 now sound is loud and better than 7551 but when i crank up the audio they get distorted and

the front speakers starts to cut off...

i read i might need LOC.. will they give me cleaner sound than what i have to

best of your knowledge.. for the time being i am gonna hold off on the

speakers and try to wire this mess properly.

what,s your opinion on those Bose speakers are they good?

i am located in Oregon.. i wish if i was closer to any .org member anyone that u know?

thanks for the help sir
Old May 29, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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when i first installed it i was having what every one else was very low volume

with the 7551. then did some research and went with 7550 now sound is loud and better than 7551 but when i crank up the audio they get distorted and

the front speakers starts to cut off...

i read i might need LOC.. will they give me cleaner sound than what i have to

best of your knowledge.. for the time being i am gonna hold off on the

speakers and try to wire this mess properly.

what,s your opinion on those Bose speakers are they good?

i am located in Oregon.. i wish if i was closer to any .org member anyone that u know?

thanks for the help sir
You do need an LOC. That is the correct way to install it.

When installed properly, an aftermarket head unit will make your Bose speakers sound BETTER than before.

I would correct everything then re-evaluate the sound quality once everything is functioning properly.
Old May 29, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
You do need an LOC. That is the correct way to install it.

When installed properly, an aftermarket head unit will make your Bose speakers sound BETTER than before.

I would correct everything then re-evaluate the sound quality once everything is functioning properly.
will do. now will i be installing the LOC with 7550 harrness"current one" or 7551
Old May 29, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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Depends on the LOC you pick and what input format it likes.
Old May 29, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Depends on the LOC you pick and what input format it likes.
it,s gonna be this
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_142SLC4/Scosche-SLC4.html
looks like rca so 7551?
Old May 30, 2012 | 04:39 AM
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That particular unit accepts speaker wire inputs and has both speaker wire or RCA outputs, so both 70-7550 or 70-7551 will work.
Old May 30, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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Can I use this kit to mount a single din with the Cefiro I30 dash piece?

http://www.installer.com/item/displa...php?it=99-7417
Old May 31, 2012 | 04:43 AM
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This will work but all you really need is an OEM pocket. No need to fumble with an aftermarket kit.
Old May 31, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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Good to know. Do I need a trim piece that is either single or double din?
Old Jun 1, 2012 | 04:16 AM
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Neither, your Cefiro kit will take care of that.
Old Jun 2, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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Ok, I have a 1995 Maxima with a BOSE system and I've done some research but I just wanted to make sure everything will work before I buy it. . .

If I buy this:
http://www.installer.com/item/displa...php?it=99-7417

This:
http://www.installer.com/item/displa...php?it=70-7551

And this head unit:
http://www.amazon.com/Dual-XD5250-In...8696313&sr=1-3

Plus the antenna adapter thing, I should be able to play music in my car again right?
Old Jun 4, 2012 | 05:22 AM
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You don't need the dash kit. You only need an OEM pocket.

You need a LOC because the preout voltage of your (very low end) HU is only 2V.

Originally Posted by villarrealj4344
Ok, I have a 1995 Maxima with a BOSE system and I've done some research but I just wanted to make sure everything will work before I buy it. . .

If I buy this:
http://www.installer.com/item/displa...php?it=99-7417

This:
http://www.installer.com/item/displa...php?it=70-7551

And this head unit:
http://www.amazon.com/Dual-XD5250-In...8696313&sr=1-3

Plus the antenna adapter thing, I should be able to play music in my car again right?
Old Jun 4, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
You don't need the dash kit. You only need an OEM pocket.

You need a LOC because the preout voltage of your (very low end) HU is only 2V.
Thanks for the reply! I looked up some of the things you're talking about and I eventually found my way to Crutchfield.com which made getting the right things really really easy. Ended up picking a Pioneer DEH-33HD with the LOC and pocket thrown in. After years of having radio only because I thought you had to replace all the speakers to replace the HU, I will finally be able to listen to my own tunes and local HD radio stations. Yes!! Hopefully installation goes smoothly.
Old Jun 4, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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Cool, congrats and enjoy your new system!
Old Jun 4, 2012 | 07:25 PM
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Under both door sills there is a batch of cables running. Is it ok to run the RCA cables along side these? They cross something similar behind/under the back right seat as well.
Old Jun 5, 2012 | 03:02 AM
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Yep you're fine.

The whole "running RCA's along power cables will cause interference" is old school thinking. Nowadays if you use proper shielded high quality RCA's (which you should be using anyway) you can run them alongside your amp power wire without issue.
Old Jun 8, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Ok, so I installed my Pioneer HU with the line out converter (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_142C4NN...n-Adapter.html) and everything works great EXCEPT the gain on the front right speaker is really low. I adjusted the LOC gain to max for that speaker and it's still way more quiet than the others. I checked all the LOC/Harness connections for that speaker and they seem fine. Anyone have any ideas before I lose my mind?
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Switch the output wires to see if it's your source, your wiring, or the LOC. process of elimination
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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Switch the output wires to see if it's your source, your wiring, or the LOC. process of elimination
I like your thinking! If only I would have that of that before I said screw it and put everything back together. Maybe I'll feel more like taking it apart again tomorrow.
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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Do the four screws holding the radio in even come out? Can't get them out.
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Alright, seems to be a few options in terms of adding head units and speakers with different harnesses and LOC. I have an 02 maxima with Bose but replaced it with a pioneer avh-p3200bt and a 70-7551 harness. My stock speakers are too quiet, wanna get more out of them. What is the easiest way to replace the speakers in my car with aftermarket with what I currently have.
I know it's been asked many many times but also many varying responses. Thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Switch the output wires to see if it's your source, your wiring, or the LOC. process of elimination
Finally got around to testing things out and called tech support, turns out LOC is defective on that particular channel after doing some splicing. New one on the way!
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I have a bose system and switched out the HU for a clarion with 2/2v RCA. Hooked up the Metra 70-7551 matching the wire colors and ignored the speaker wires from the clarion harness. Wasn't sure what to do with all the ground wires, so I hooked them together and connected the end to the frame inside the dash. It sounded fine at first. Then I put the dash back together, turned it back on and got a ground loop whine.

I cut the amp ground wire, thinking that was causing the loop, hooked it up again and it sounded great. Then I finished the soldering, hooked it up again and got the ground loop again. I have been trying different configurations of the ground wiring and no solution appears to last. Should I just hook the clarion ground wire to the frame and disconnect the metra ground wires altogether? Seems like that might be the solution since my bose amp has its own ground.
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Originally Posted by matt06
Alright, seems to be a few options in terms of adding head units and speakers with different harnesses and LOC. I have an 02 maxima with Bose but replaced it with a pioneer avh-p3200bt and a 70-7551 harness. My stock speakers are too quiet, wanna get more out of them. What is the easiest way to replace the speakers in my car with aftermarket with what I currently have.
I know it's been asked many many times but also many varying responses. Thanks in advance
Are you sure it's wired properly?

If you are and you definitely want to replace everything, you're going to have to replace all the speakers - and you should run new speaker wire into each door. The decision which you have to make is if you want to amplify your aftermarket speakers, or run them off your head unit.
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I have a bose system and switched out the HU for a clarion with 2/2v RCA. Hooked up the Metra 70-7551 matching the wire colors and ignored the speaker wires from the clarion harness. Wasn't sure what to do with all the ground wires, so I hooked them together and connected the end to the frame inside the dash. It sounded fine at first. Then I put the dash back together, turned it back on and got a ground loop whine.

I cut the amp ground wire, thinking that was causing the loop, hooked it up again and it sounded great. Then I finished the soldering, hooked it up again and got the ground loop again. I have been trying different configurations of the ground wiring and no solution appears to last. Should I just hook the clarion ground wire to the frame and disconnect the metra ground wires altogether? Seems like that might be the solution since my bose amp has its own ground.
Ground all the wires together, at the same point on the frame. I usually use one of the nuts that secure the TCM - down in the back/bottom of the cavity behind the radio.



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