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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Audio pro's check ""PROJECT REWIRE!"" and tell me if anything is wrong!!!

Ok, basically, i have the screen in, and i have the sub wired up....bad part= i have bose...so im taking all the bose speakers/amps out, and the bose fuse....and i baught new components for the front, and 2way speakers for the rear...also got a amp for them. am i missing something? or can i start "PROJECT REWIRE" lol...thanks audio guru's....

here is my paint of what im doing....thanks again




also i know the sub amp has rem, i included sub amp bc im adding a distribution block thingy...but the sub and deck are already wired!!!!

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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Your sub amp has no signal input.

What are the rear speakers for?
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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no sub signal and no remote turn on. other than that you're golden, personal preferences aside.
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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no sub signal and no remote turn on. other than that you're golden, personal preferences aside.
like i said higher the subs already wired......and the sig and rem are just not drawn....so im good?
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by eng92
Your sub amp has no signal input.

What are the rear speakers for?
the rear speakers are for rear speakers....lol
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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You ARE getting the signal for your sub amp from the HU right?
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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Try using a common ground for the two amps.

Also why the need for fuses in the rear? Preference?
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
You ARE getting the signal for your sub amp from the HU right?
yes!


Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Try using a common ground for the two amps.

Why?

Also why the need for fuses in the rear? Preference?
If i did it kind of ghetto, and had it run off of one...lets say something shorted...then everything would stop working....its a just in case kind of thing...
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Just in case a fuse blows in the rear ..creates a spark surround by nice carpet? Not likely, but I have never been a 'fuse in the rear' guy.

Common ground = less chance of loops.
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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welll, im gonna have the main fuse up front, and those 2 extra fuses are just safety....and im not going to have it like....BOLTED to the carpet with cotton around it and lighter fluid accidently...which still wouldnt cause anything...because the fuse blows inside of the glass...which is also held down....and also has a case over it....which would also be mounted on the rear wall for easy access....

thats one without the fuses in it..

fuse is in the glass...the glass doesn't break when a fuse goes out...
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Your absolutely right, what was I thinking. I've never installed before and have never seen 'accidents'. Sorry for replying to your thread, I will leave now.
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Russianmax, don't doubt pearl. He has had much more experience than you ever will. Stop being a smart-alic in this forum. It won't turn out nicely for you.
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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^^^---The Law has spoken. And he is correct.
Old Oct 9, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Your absolutely right, what was I thinking. I've never installed before and have never seen 'accidents'. Sorry for replying to your thread, I will leave now.
hey bud, my bad i didnt mean to come off the way i did...i posted because i wanted to get input from more experienced people....where would u recomend me putting it?
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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The point is you don't need one one in the rear at all. And a common ground is a much better solution to 2.
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 05:42 AM
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When you talk about a common ground for the 2 amps, do you mean just to run the ground from each amp to the same point? Or is there more to it than that?


Sorry for the newbie needed clarification.....
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kgallerie
When you talk about a common ground for the 2 amps, do you mean just to run the ground from each amp to the same point? Or is there more to it than that?


Sorry for the newbie needed clarification.....
You are correct. A common ground point cuts down on the possibility of ground loops which can be the cause of unwanted noise during playback.
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you guys are hilarious. don says don't fuse in the rear and y'all jump on the bandwagon, knowing d**n well you're running a fused distro block.

now i'm not one to doubt don, i'm sure what he says works for him, but my stance is fuse every time you drop wire gauge. i also fuse for gauge and not current draw. wire has a lower ampacity the smaller the gauge so what might not blow the up front fuse could cause an unsafe voltage drop in the rear.

it's science vs. real world experience, but that's how i have always done it, do it, and will continue to do so.
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
you guys are hilarious. don says don't fuse in the rear and y'all jump on the bandwagon, knowing d**n well you're running a fused distro block.

now i'm not one to doubt don, i'm sure what he says works for him, but my stance is fuse every time you drop wire gauge. i also fuse for gauge and not current draw. wire has a lower ampacity the smaller the gauge so what might not blow the up front fuse could cause an unsafe voltage drop in the rear.

it's science vs. real world experience, but that's how i have always done it, do it, and will continue to do so.
Think you know it all?

:-p

You don't know **** about my wiring, I don't have a fused distro, blow me.

I've got two dedicated runs, no fuses except under the hood.
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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guys guys guys i am not trying to start arguements here!!! i just wanted some honest help! the extra distribution block with fuses was for safety so i wouldnt blow an amp or speaker or anything else....and i completely agree on the grounding in the same area........the org is not for drama its to help fellow maxima guys out! So cut out the stufff lol.....and tell me where should i put the distribution block in case of "accidents"
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACKonBLACK98
you guys are hilarious. don says don't fuse in the rear and y'all jump on the bandwagon, knowing d**n well you're running a fused distro block.

now i'm not one to doubt don, i'm sure what he says works for him, but my stance is fuse every time you drop wire gauge. i also fuse for gauge and not current draw. wire has a lower ampacity the smaller the gauge so what might not blow the up front fuse could cause an unsafe voltage drop in the rear.

it's science vs. real world experience, but that's how i have always done it, do it, and will continue to do so.
I'm not arguing whether proper or not, just whether needed or not. In his case I see no benefit except for it being more costly. Hell I myself am guilty of having one, then again I was unable to find a 4 output plus pass through for both power and ground without a fuse.

I have never been a fan, but not trying to make a right Vs wrong debate here either. Fuse at the battery and fuse at the amp has always worked for me without the addition (minimal) resistance.
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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guys guys guys i am not trying to start arguements here!!!
don't take nismos14's comments the wrong way. we're cool like that.

Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
I'm not arguing whether proper or not, just whether needed or not. In his case I see no benefit except for it being more costly. Hell I myself am guilty of having one, then again I was unable to find a 4 output plus pass through for both power and ground without a fuse.

I have never been a fan, but not trying to make a right Vs wrong debate here either. Fuse at the battery and fuse at the amp has always worked for me without the addition (minimal) resistance.
i agree 100% with what you are saying, it just struck me as funny that some members need little more than "don said so" to back up a statement. i guess if they have to be on a bandwagon at least they chose a good one.
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my fuse block is wireless.
Old Oct 11, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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my fuse block is wireless.
LMFAO ! I cant believe you remembered that.

BTW ..Called ya last week. What's up?
Old Oct 11, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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its done and wired...was a pain in the neck to finish but its done.....i kinda messed something up because the left front tweeter squeels to the sound of my gas pedal lol...i think its becuase i put the rca cable with that 1 wire......bleh...gonna redo it but not now...im so tired...sounds good tho...much better than bose.
Old Oct 12, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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I fuse everything. Fuse up front, fuse before the rear battery, seperate fuse for each amp.
Old Oct 12, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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so what did i do wrong.....my front right tweeter is sqeeling to the noise of my car....to many wires on one side? mix up the wrong 2 wires? any1?
Old Oct 12, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Try moving the crossover that corresponds to that tweeter.
Old Oct 12, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by filtor1
Try moving the crossover that corresponds to that tweeter.
i know this is a retarded question...but can u explain 2 me why that would play reason in sound?
Old Oct 13, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RuSSiAnMax415
i know this is a retarded question...but can u explain 2 me why that would play reason in sound?
In a few rare circumstances I have stuffed crossovers behind 1/4 panels and under the dash at a customers request. I got noise. After going through all the usual suspects, I decided to move the crosover position in the panels while the music was playing. Noise went away. I have also moved the crossover to a different place and the noise went away. I moved it back and the whine started again.

The majority of the time the whine will be caused by a ground loop and can be eliminated by simply using a common ground or choosing a new common ground point. I assumed that you had used a common ground already and thought it may be beneficial as well as a time saver to rule out some type of random interference that may be caused by the crossover location.
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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if anyone was curious...it was a bad rca cable....it all sounds crisp and clean now!
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i had some rcas go bad on me too!
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