After coming back from Hot Imports Night, i've concluded that a large subwoofer (ie 10" 12" 15" 18") causes the bass to be kinda sloppy. Good for rap where the bass is relatively far apart but very bad for techno songs.

I was wondering if i could buy 4 8" woofers, remove the bose system, and mount it on a custom rear deck with four 4th gen. maxima bose grilles covering the woofers (giving a semi-stock look to deter theives)

This just leaves one problem... i dont know of any free-air 8" woofers and i dont want to stick the woofers in my trunk.

any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.
thanks in advanced

 

I don't know what you're going to find that's open-air with a high emphasis on sq. Personally I find SPL is a bit better for most of the techno I listen to, but then again, I prefer ambient and a slice of trance that's outside of the normal muck....so most house and trance, with the pulsing 8th beat, might be more sq.

It's not the size of the sub that necessarily matters on sq. More the design of the whole sub/driver and the enclosure the sub is in.

 

Your conclusion is completly acinine...Subs do not have to sound like crap, bass heads make them that way. Get your self a good 10 or 12 and you will like it.

 

whats an acinine?

 

Thats my attempt at spelling Asinine , only one letter off, not bad for me

 

so you guys dont think i can mount four 8" woofers on my back deck?

 

Can?

It's probably possible.

Would you want to is the question. I would think it'd be much easier to find a sub or pair of subs that are completely sq-aimed, and that fit in very small enclosures, as to only take up a smidgen of trunk space. I don't know if this is your only concern when you say you don't want woofers in the trunk, but I couldn't think of many others.

IDQ 10s are a good example of sq subs that fit in very shallow/small enclosures.

 

thnx for the suggestion... i just thought it might sound better (less sloppy) with small diameter subwoofers firing into the cabin as opposed to enclosed in the trunk.

 

Go back and read what I wrote the first time, take it as gospal

 

touche... btw.. im not religious

 

Check my page 4 of my homepage to see what I did. I would think 4 8's would be hard to do mainly because of all the crap that would be in your way on the rear deck (seatbelts, etc.) My 1 8" sounds much better than the stock bose sub and did not require any cutting of metal on the rear deck or anything. I don't listen to rap either so I probably listen to about the same type music you do.

http://www.cardomain.com/id/suds1

 

I'm not touche, I'm just trying to get you on the right track. To much bad info floating around, call me marshell, marshell bling bling king that is

 

This is incorrect. There is no inherent problem with anything up to 15". Some 18" cones can have problems from cone flex. However, a good 18" driver will not have this problem. The "issues" you hear were almost certainly with the quality of the speakers used, or the quality of the install. I have an Infinity Kappa Perfect 12.1 (12") and it is neither sloppy, nor bloated. If you want good tight crisp bass you have to buy a better sub than a $59 RF. Get a good 12" sub (like a Shiva or a Perfect), put it in a sealed box and feed it a good bit of power. Voila' good clean loud bass.

Stereodude

 

would two 10" RF Punch Power DVC (2 ohms per coil) each in their separate sealed boxes
plus a PPI PCX-1500 Mono-Block (1000 watt) give me tight crisp sounding bass?

damn i wanna system but itz soo complicated lol

 

I'm not too knowledgeable on modern RF products, but from what I've seen other people use them for, and other people talking about them in general, the Punch DVCs are not a sound quality-oriented sub.

You might want to ask some audio gurus their opinions on what the best sq subs to look for in your price range, and then go to local shops and take a listen to a few of the top picks if possible. Also, keep in mind that one high-quality sub can be a good alternative to two lower-quality & lower-priced subs. If possible you might want to take a listen to the infinity perfect line of subs like Stereodude suggested - I had a perfect 10 in a sealed enclosure and it was an *excellent* mix of sq and spl, for a good price.

 

And here is the audio guru


RF products are bottom of the mid level stuff, and for the most part are for young cats that want bass.

Good subs: Heres a few suggestions: Eclipse svc non alum, mbquart pwd, diamond audio, I.D., nakamichi(I have two real cheap if you want um), Kicker L7, and a few others.

Also don't over look the amp it plays a much much larger role in the sound q of the system more than just wattage. Much much more than just wattage.

 

If you honestly think there's an SQ difference in transistor amps in a car that aren't clipping then clearly you're not the "audio guru" you claim to be. In full range applications it's virtually impossible to tell the difference between car amps. With subs it's even harder.

As far as SQ subs Adire Audio has some good stuff (for cheap). The Shiva and Brahmas are really good subs. Blueprint has good inexpensive SQ subs. The Infinity Perfect is another good SQ sub. There are nothing wrong with the subs that max'n out mentioned, except the kicker L7 (square surround = non linear cone movement). However they may not have the bang for the buck you're looking for.

Personally I'd recommend a 12" cone with a long throw. Have you looked at the Blueprint 1201?

Stereodude

 

Let's not forget Crystal Audio, JL Audio, a/d/s, Xtant, Boston Acoustics

 

thanks for all the suggestions... i'll look into the reccomended subs

i have narrowed down my choices to either the 10" infiniti kappa perfect 4 ohm DVC or the 10" nakamichi SP-W1000D 6 ohm DVC

can the 2 10" nakamichis handle the power from the monoblock pcx 1500 (1000 watt) amp?

 

i think a better question would be... is the ppi monoblock pcx 1500 switchable to accomadate the nakamichi's 6 ohm dvc?

 

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