ok, i'm in the market for a sub and amp to run off my stock non-bose HU, probably a 12" sub with a mono amp. i want quality and everyone tells me get JL subs... ok, i go to Al & Ed's, they offer a fosgate 12" for $220 or an alpine type-r for $200 and a 450s kicker 2-channel amp. all of this and the necessary stuff for around $650 total. then i head over to tweeter to look for some JL stuff.. offered a 12" W3, JL 250 mono amp, custom box, and all the stuff for installation.. an outrageous price of $950!! now to hunt for stuff online.. what are the best places online to get some good prices?

 

Well actually you cant compare prices of Rockford and JL. JL is a much better quality. I may offend people by saying this and if I do then Im sorry it is MY opinion. Rockford has went to crap in the past years..... Many years ago Rockford was on the higher end, and alot of people wanted it, Well Rockford soon took advantage of that and lowered their quality, and sold based on their name. As far as the price you got from tweeter....I agree it may be a higher price, but they are a retail store. I am not familiar with them being that I am in NJ, but are they reputable? It is usually better to go with a reputable company that costs a little more than to try to save some money with someone else. A custom MADE enclosure can be pricey. It is not something that you cut a few peices of wood and throw together. If it is made right it is worth the money. As far as online stores there is NONE for JL. Which in turn gives you ZERO warranty. Also does not guarantee it to be genuine JL equipment. BTW what amp is a Kicker 450s??? Not too familiar with that one...

 

Ditto. JL and RF aren't actually in the same league anymore.

Additionally, Tweeter is a good place but like all other retail chains the quality of each install will depend highly on the people in a particular branch.

As far as prices go, most authorized dealers will have around the same #'s especially if they're a retail store. Online stores are notorious for selling stuff at lower prices. And, if you'll notice - most of them aren't authorized dealers either.

 

Why would you call Tweeter such a rip off? You are comparing two different packages from two different competitors.

Good luck finding JL and Rockford on line (warranty), you won't

Have you ever bought anything before at Tweeter? How do you know they are such a ripoff?

 

Dave, is that limo tint?

 

i didnt mean to compare fosgate with JL... i was just explaining my whole hunt for subs. i'm calling tweeter a rip off based on opinions from friends who do know their audio stuff. i mean their price for the actual equipment didnt seem that bad, the 12" W3 was the same price for the alpine type-r and in fact the fosgate was 20 bucks more. i thought the amp was kind of overpriced, a 1 channel 250 watt amp for $360? installation seemed pretty steep too, overall almost $150 just for an amp and sub. however, i know the techs at the tweeter do a real good job. well i guess that is true that you pay for quality. so, i'm thinkin of gettin the W3 since it's only $200, maybe finding an amp somewhere else and getting the install done somewhere else too.

 

So why do you call Tweeter a rip off then?

Yes a JL 250/1 goes for $360.00. Do you have a breakdown on what the install and parts costs? Maybe you had no idea how much good stuff costs these days

 

Ok first of all the 250/1 for $360 isnt a horrible price...Actually it is MAP (Minimum Advertised Price). I actually just sold one yesterday for $289, but places will vary. The other part of your statement confused me..You stated that you know the techs at Tweeter do a "real good job", but then ended with saying youll go somewhere else to have it installed...please explain

 

Yes. 8% including the top 10" of the windshield

 

i guess i just dont feel like paying too much.. even though they're good.. i'm new to the audio scene, flame all you want. the prices just seemed outrageous to me. thanks for the opinions and stuff. now i know that the prices weren't so bad after all.

 

Not flaming, but I love my fosgate ****

HX2s
bd1500
800.4
FNQ series mids/tweets


So clean, hits so hard, it hurts, yet so clean, so crisp, insanely awesome. Simple triple 10" enclosure, sealed. No fancy ****. Just clean and simple. Sounds amazing. I've heard JL stuff that sounds like ***, yet I've heard Fosgates with the same lack of quality.

Installation, and knowledge of product (read power) matching is more than half the stereo perfection.....

 

everything and anything is a rip off.. i'm not gonna lie. aftermarket stereo components have a huge mark up cost.. but so does everything else.. have you ever bought a pet fish?? the mark up in that hobby is alot higher than car audio. you also can't compare stores prices with internet prices, physical shops have overhead costs.. to stock your JL subwoofer and rockford fostgate amp they need to pay for a place to store it, electricity for the lights, they also need to pay for the employees that put the stuff in for you and when the stuff you buy on the net fails, they gotta pay for the time spent on you by their employees explaining why it might have failed and stuff. i can see from a consumer point of view why certain stores are rip offs. but here's the catch. the price they give you is one thing, the price you settle for is another. lets say a subwoofer costs 250. they advertise it for 500, but then you negotiate with the store and get it for 350.. 350 is the price you settle for, however that is not the absolute lowest price. if you were trying to sell teh product, would u sell that same sub for 251? now think of it. would that ONE dollar profit pay for your overhead? know how the store owners feel before you go badmouthing the shops.. i can't deny that there are shops out there that do actually overcharge, but there's always customers that are willing to pay that extra cash, whether it's ignorance, or they got too much money..

 

Very well said

 

I couldnt have said it better. BTW being a buisness owner myself, I am glad that SOME people out there DO understand.

 

i guess you didnt read my other post where i said "now i know that the prices weren't so bad after all." i think i realized everything you said before you said it.

 

in my case, i will only buy retail, because i want a warranty. if you buy an amp for 300 online, and it costs 400 in the store, and you mess it up, youre up **** creek, and youll end up paying a total of 600 online, where as you would have only spent 400 with the warranty.

i can tell you which one looks cheaper if you gotta replace it

eric

 

ebay the part that's not working as efficient.. J/P

 

Or unless ya know someone that will sell to you below retail

Online sales are not only including a warranty, but they are not always genuine equipment!

 

Ditto, I feel the same way...

 

limo tint is 5%

 

bored?

 

i was searching and happened to find it. i wasnt trying to rag on you.

 

who's on the rag?

 

Maximadave,

You still have the hook-ups at Tweeter right? I don't need anything at the moment, just checking.

Dave.

 

STOP!!!!! a TYPE-R (ALPINE) is 10000x THE SUB THE W3 is...

I just blew my 2 W3, and now i have 2 Type R's, 12"...

The difference is like sex with a virgin to sex with a dirty, filthy smelly .02cent *****, the virgin is always better!!

 

Yes.


Why do threads that are 3-4 months old get resurrected from the dead? Especially the ****ing title ****es me off

someone delete this thread please

 

ur not obliged to respond. maybe they should get rid of the search button.