twice I gave solid offers on a 2k max for my girlfriend the first one my offer wasnt high enough and the car was "sold" the second time they re listed the car for $35 less than my previous offer and we had all the paper work done and the loan approved and were gonna drive up first thing in the morning to pick it up and the ********** just called me and said they sold it to someone else because I wouldnt send up like 50 bucks or something for a deposit. So I say dont do business with those *******S because it doesnt matter where your at in the deal if you dont shove money at them first you lose.