hello everyone,

as you may or may not know, im new to the forum. i recently posted a thread b/c they stole my headlights,

anyway i just got the car back on monday, i wanted to get the nissan headlight anti theft kit, but the stealership service guy told me they no longer make them

can anyone corroborate this? i mean is it true or is he simply liying to me hoping ill come back for two more headlights???

 

I work at Nissan, Im off today but will find out for ya tomm...I need to inform myself on this too since my girl just got a 5th gen...

 

cool. thanks. i appreciate it. i dont trust those thiefs at the stealership

 

i would call different dealerships in your state and see what they have to say,... your refering to the data dot or something like that correct?... i dont see why they wouldnt be available...they are prob telling you that because they would have to get them to you for near nothing and dont want to be bothered... nice huh

 

seriosly....these people are so lazy....plus all they care about is making money...thats why i came here, i dont trust them...

 

the dealership is only "thieves" if people let them.
way to talk **** about them when a guy FROM A DEALERSHIP offered to help you

 

thats a really broad statement. i dont work at a dealership but that statement pisses me off. i have never gotten screwed at a dealership.
they are a business...the whole point of a business is to make money. if you go in educated and polite...you wont get screwed. if you go in with the grudge you have, they are going to put off by you and not work to help you.

 

for 60-70% of us, iceman is right about them. they try to fnck u and not all, but most of them are lazy...they ones that did mine obviously wasnt because when i was just going in for an oil change, they gave me full service

 

they try to *** someone who looks and acts like they wanna get fuked

if you sit there and take it...thats your fault. again, be educated and polite (while being firm) and you will be fine.

 

i worked at a stealership. they are there to **** you out of your money. every person there from the service writers, the sales men, techs, everyone. never forget that. it's the most dishonest buisness i'v ever been in. BEWARE!

 

again...be smart enough to not get fuked.

people at mcdonalds try to get you to supersize
its business

i laugh when im sitting at the dealership and hear some of the things people pay the dealership to do
$30 to change a bulb
$60 to remove a nail in the tire
if people are gonna pay it...the dealership will take it

 

well im sorry if i offended anyone...personally i was referring to the people at the stealership i went to. i didnt mean it in such a broad way, i wasnt aware some of you guys worked at dealerships, i hope you didnt take it personal...i apologize;

but...were a lil off topic...

anyone know if its true that nissan no longer makes the brackets?????

 

There is a post on nycmaximas.org that a member had their headlights stolen WITH the data dots. The data dots are only HARDER to take out than the regular 5.5 gen headlights but if someone wants them, they'll get them. And if they don't, after all the pullling and prying your front bumper, headlights and maybe even the grill will be damaged. IMO, just get 00-01 headlights smoked and call it a day. It's not worth the hassle of dealing with ppl. damaging your property.

 

data dots is different from the anti theft kit. the kit is supposed to prevent theft....data dots make it easier to find your headlights after they have been stolen.

 

isnt data dot just a sticker?? i mean how much help can a sticker be? once they steal them...ill never see them again...

 

see, the thing is, there are people out there who don't know anything about cars... and when it breaks down they don't have the knowledge to know when they're getting screwed.. this consumer (for example, maybe your or my grandmother) may be polite, but just unknowledgable.. and there are dealerships out there who will take advantage of people who don't know any better, because i've seen it.. don't try to justify their dishonesty, because they are wrong.. and to fault the general consumer for not having the knowledge of a car enthusiast is placing the blame on the wrong party.. dealerships and mechanics are wrong for lying and screwing people out of money.. bottom line.

 

Data dots are very small stickers that have an ID# on them, If your headlights are recovered police can read the # with a microscope and get them back to you. It is supposed to be a deterrant (sp?) to thieves since it is proof that the headlights are stolen. http://www.microdotprotection.com/faq.html

I Thought the antitheft kit and data dots came together. My car has the Data Dots stickers (It came from Conn.). I Assumed it had the anti-theft kit but I don't see anything on the car that looks like extra brakets, are they obvious if I pop the hood? I was thinking of getting angel eyes but the thought of dealing with the anti theft brakets was holding me back.

 

well to me datadot doesnt really make a difference, plus theyre quite cheap you can get em online. the bracket is what i really want, and thats what i need to know if nissan indeed no longer makes them....

 

Hate to say it guys but he's right Ive been working here for almost 3 years and everybody here is out to get your money!! Seriously, I've seen people here get riped off and then some

( Nissan no longer offers those brackets anymore, theres not even a Part # in our system for it....)

 

not sure if you noticed, but the 4th gen forum is moving in, esp. with school letting out too.
i've given up...time to bail!

 

it's a natural progression. us 4th gens made it possible for the 5th gens to have the mods community they have.

 

i know this guy whos a service writer for honda, and he tells me he has to sell services that they dont need, because they work on a commission. the job suits him well since hes a shady dude.

 

i say again...they "***" people that let themselves get "fuked".
its a business, dont blame them. if someone wanted to pay me $60 to change some blinker bulbs, i would take it.

 

then it's a damn good thing you don't work at a dealership.. and yeah.. you do blame them.. of course you blame the ****** for doing the fuking.. who else are you gonna blame, those being fuked? that doesn't make any sense.. that's like blaming a 10 year old boy for being raped by a 35 year old man.. he thought he was getting video game, but ended up getting a d*ck in the @$$.. he didn't know any better.. but it's the kid's fault for not being smarter right? not at all the rapist.. just like the old lady who is told by several dishonest crooks that she needs a head gasket for a coolant leak, but actually only needs a hose replaced.. now she's fuked out of hundreds of dollars.. she didn't know any better.. but it's her fault for not being a mechanic right? not at all the dishonest business...

 

that analogy is flawed (and stupid)
the dealership isnt doing anything illegal...its a business and the point of a business is to make money. if people want to waste their money, they will take it.
nobody forces those people to go to the dealership.
nobody prevented those people from getting a second opinion.
nobody forced those people to pay for something.

 

we are forced to go OEM though
you cant pick up any car parts from like just autozone

 

really? there isnt a cheaper place to get parts?

and this thread isnt about that. its about the unsubstantiated charge that the dealerships lies to people to make money.

 

i agree with you and the way to go is aftermarket or second-hand or junkyard. but for the anti-thief kit as an example... you could go diy the home depot way, but not everyone is gifted in creativity so they rely on the dealership to create one hence the dealership jack up the pricing.

 

supply and demand

 

lol this thread is interesting. there are reasons why they are called stealership. I'm sure they've heard about the complaints of customers' headlight getting jacked big time and they could have done something since the headlights are $300+ each even on ebay, but they offer the kit as an accessory option WHICH is btw discounted.
if there was a poll, i would have voted to call them stealership.
oh and btw my friend took his car to the "dealership" for check-ups, they bs'ed him and messed with his car and told him that he needed to do this and change that. good game!

 

theres a difference between honest business and shady business. guess which one the dealer is? i own a small business and we do not make people pay or recommend things that they dont need. we usually try to save our customers money. yes we can tell our customers phony things to make more money but we are an honest business. i dont see how we cant blame them(dealers).

 

they are actually called dealerships...whiny people on here call them a stealership. that doesnt make that their name.

 

lol this is fun! Now that this thread is moved to be a debate, I shall continue! Soonerfan, you still haven't justify my point of why they should be called stealership. True that they help you, but sometimes they "overhelp" you and getting you to get this and that. Plus they over charge you 95% of the time. (95% because I got a sweet deal on my car)
They should offer the kit as a standard since it's so easy to get jacked and a new pair is fairly expensive.

 

So hows your new engine?

 

bite me...i got screwed by Nissan North America

 

this argument again
so it nissans fault they they gave us HIDs standard during a time when they were only available on luxury cars?
its their fault people steal them?

they arent any easier the steal then any other headlight

 

so what does this kit come with ? i mean if they want to steal them without breaking them, thats not to hard, but if you buy the security star screws,<like the ones on the MAF sensor> there abit more difficult to remove and most theives would go to something easier, but to break them to remove them, that seems pointless

 

Ah but we all have substantiated this charge, and many times! If you haven't been screwed yourself, I'm sure the majority of .org'ers know someone that has. You're fighting a losing battle here sooner, and its not just because you're an Oklahoma fan!

M GO BLUE!

The 'stealership' comment is coarse but not undeserved in many cases.

 

this anaology is not flawed.. or stupid.. what's stupid is trying to defend dealerships for stealing people's money, and justifying dishonesty.. of course it's not exactly the same circumstance, but it's the same principle, which is... if i screw you over.. i am the one to blame.. thats it.. but according to you, it's your fault for not knowing you're being screwed over.. so you're saying that the dealership is not to blame in any way for lying to people and taking their money for un-needed services? it's completely ok for them to steal people's money? that doesn't make any sense.. you're trying to justify dishonesty, and that simply can't fly.. dishonesty=wrong.. period

"nobody prevented those people from getting a second opinion." true.. but if these dealerships operate by the same logic as you do.. guess what.. those second, third, and fourth opinions won't matter because they're all gonna bullsh*t that consumer and try make as much money as they can, which includes stealing from the pockets of people by blatantly lying to them... and that's the right thing to do?? does anybody else agree with this guy?

 

wow.. don't tell me this thread died... sooner?? anybody?? i was enjoying this debate quite thoroughly