Paint Jobs - Orange Peel and Fisheyes
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Paint Jobs - Orange Peel and Fisheyes
So a buddy o mine got his front and rear bumper painted for a fair price, but besides the price is it just inevitable for your paint to have orange peel or fisheyes after the job is done?
Might this have to do with the lack of an extra layer of clear coat?
Should this have been a procedure that a typical body shop does such as wet sand and buff AFTER the paint job?
You would think youd pay for a paint job to not have to do anything else to it once you pick it up from the shop. Ya Know? What do you guys think?
Might this have to do with the lack of an extra layer of clear coat?
Should this have been a procedure that a typical body shop does such as wet sand and buff AFTER the paint job?
You would think youd pay for a paint job to not have to do anything else to it once you pick it up from the shop. Ya Know? What do you guys think?
IIRC fish eyes can be a result of silicone residue on the surface before painting. If that's the case the body shop ought to have done a better job of cleaning before painting. IMO that's not acceptable.
Orange peel happens. Most new cars right from the factory have some. I can't fault the shop as much for that. Yes it can be avoided or corrected....depends on the shop and the skill of the painter.
Maybe the shop would wet sand the peel if he went back.
Orange peel happens. Most new cars right from the factory have some. I can't fault the shop as much for that. Yes it can be avoided or corrected....depends on the shop and the skill of the painter.
Maybe the shop would wet sand the peel if he went back.
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Originally Posted by Bluesbrekr
IIRC fish eyes can be a result of silicone residue on the surface before painting. If that's the case the body shop ought to have done a better job of cleaning before painting. IMO that's not acceptable.
Orange peel happens. Most new cars right from the factory have some. I can't fault the shop as much for that. Yes it can be avoided or corrected....depends on the shop and the skill of the painter.
Maybe the shop would wet sand the peel if he went back.
Orange peel happens. Most new cars right from the factory have some. I can't fault the shop as much for that. Yes it can be avoided or corrected....depends on the shop and the skill of the painter.
Maybe the shop would wet sand the peel if he went back.
No reason at all for fish eye, someone f*ed up and it should be fixed.
The orange peel... That depends on how bad it is. I had some on my rear quarter panel that was quite noticable after some body work. I pointed it out and they fixed it no problem.
The orange peel... That depends on how bad it is. I had some on my rear quarter panel that was quite noticable after some body work. I pointed it out and they fixed it no problem.
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Fish eyes are cause by contaminents left on the surface prior to paint, this can be anything, little bit of sweat, oil, anything that doesn't mix well with paint. Orange peel is clear coat drying unevenly.
Fish eyes can be improved by sanding and polishing, but will almost always be still evident. In most cases, orange peel can be wet sanded and buffed to a mirror like shine. Essentially the small "waves" of clear are evened out, creating a flatter surface which relfects more light = more shine.
long story short, the fish eyes are unacceptble, the orange peel is not.
Fish eyes can be improved by sanding and polishing, but will almost always be still evident. In most cases, orange peel can be wet sanded and buffed to a mirror like shine. Essentially the small "waves" of clear are evened out, creating a flatter surface which relfects more light = more shine.
long story short, the fish eyes are unacceptble, the orange peel is not.
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Originally Posted by KeithD
Fish eyes are cause by contaminents left on the surface prior to paint, this can be anything, little bit of sweat, oil, anything that doesn't mix well with paint. Orange peel is clear coat drying unevenly.
Fish eyes can be improved by sanding and polishing, but will almost always be still evident. In most cases, orange peel can be wet sanded and buffed to a mirror like shine. Essentially the small "waves" of clear are evened out, creating a flatter surface which relfects more light = more shine.
long story short, the fish eyes are unacceptble, the orange peel is not.
Fish eyes can be improved by sanding and polishing, but will almost always be still evident. In most cases, orange peel can be wet sanded and buffed to a mirror like shine. Essentially the small "waves" of clear are evened out, creating a flatter surface which relfects more light = more shine.
long story short, the fish eyes are unacceptble, the orange peel is not.
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