Torkaholic

I've cut open both M1-108 and the taller/same diameter 110. The 110 does have a taller element as well, but not as much more as you'd think. Still, I like the 110 because the 108 is just so, so tiny. Not exactly rational, I suppose, but I just can't get my mind around a filter so small that two of them can fit into a Coke can.

The 105 is a much larger diameter filter, whose base/flange will fit the VQ35. I have not cut one of these, but I'm willing to assume it has more filter in it than the 108 or 110. I can't imagine why they'd bother making this monster other than to stuff in more filter. Of course, whether or not the typical VQ operator needs a filter like this is another story.

konak85

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bump for post number 40

boondoxmax

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I have always thought the bosch and mobil 1 were almost identical. Is the mobil 1 worth the 7 dollars over the bosch. In my opinion hell no............

Torkaholic

Champion Labs makes both the M1 and the Bosch PREMIUM (reviewing previous posts, we were not all clear about this, "premium" is the CL made one, unsure about plain "Bosch"). CL also makes the K&N, Valuecraft, some STP, and a few other makes I can't recall right now. If you cut any of them open, you find virtually identical "skeletal" structure, different looking filtration media. So, IMO, the real question is whether the different media makes a difference. I ordered particle counts on my most recent UOA (see the German Castrol Strikes Again thread). I'll be hunting up some comparative data to see if we can tell whether one CL filter or another works best and whether thee expensive ones are "worth it."

75jihyun

Good info to Newbie~ Thanks~

t0mmyr

I got my 110 today from autozone for 8.99, of course I have a commercial account, is this a good price?

carsarecool

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That is a pretty good price, front counter they go for 10.99, what kind of pricing do you have? You own a shop or work in a garage?

steven88

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$11 for an M105 isn't too bad really....don't these filters last like twice as long as OEM? So if your running synthetic oil, you can just slap on the mobil1 filter, and just call it a day, until 6k miles later (if you go by 3k intervals)

anybody have info on the Mobil1 extended performance filters?

t0mmyr

i work at a small car dealership, we do about $1000 a week with autoparts store, i have resale license so i didn't have to pay tax

5 quarts of mobile clean 5000 was $11 for me

steven88

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i can do this too?

t0mmyr

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what u say

inspiredbykev

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has anyone used an Amsoil oil filter?

thinking about switching over from the m1-105

talkinghorse

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No scientific data, but I have one of the new AMSOIL EaO filters on my car now and it appears to be of very high quality. Your discounted cost for the filter makes it very competitively priced with the Mobil-1 filter

I see where Mobil now offers an extended performance oil filter to complement their extended life oils. This is consistent with what AMSOIL has advocated for years. I'm sure the new Mobil-1 filter is of high quality.

If your objective is to extend your OCI's with a premium synthetic oil, you should use a filter (such as the AMSOIL or Mobil-1 filter) designed with that goal in mind. When used in conjunction with AMSOIL engine oils in normal service, the EaO filters are guaranteed to remain effective for up to 25,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first, or for 15,000 mi/1-year in severe service. I don't see any mileage claim for the M-1 filter on their web site, but it would make sense to make it consistent with the recommended OCI. I accumulate ~20K/year and change the oil (AMSOIL 0w-30) and filter every 6-mos/10K, fall and spring...that's very conservative. The engine does not use a drop of oil between changes; it runs like a top; outstanding fuel economy (28-29 mpg consistently); the cost is negligible; it's convenient; and there's environmental benefits.

The new EaO filters contain a premium grade, full synthetic fiber media that allow the filters to deliver higher capacity and efficiency along with better durability needed when extending OCIs with synthetic oils. Mobil claims to use a blend of synthetic microfibers and cellulose. The EaO filters boast a very high efficiency rating; they have higher capacity and much lower restriction than conventional cellulose media filters. That's important because more oil can pass thru the filter versus being diverted thru the by-pass valve.

If you're going to change your oil and filter every few months, then I agree that there are other filters out there, including the OEM, Wix, NAPA Gold and others that will save you a few dollars a pop...but personally, an extra $5 every 6-months or so for a quality filter is worth it.

If you drive more/extend your drain intervals, then the long life filters are more convenient, they result in less trash/hazardous waste, and they end up saving money in the long run.

inspiredbykev

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I know the 3.5l factory filter has a 14 psi bypass valve

Does anyone know what the psi is for the m1-105?

If its higher than 14 could it damage the engine or cause unfiltered oil to pass through?

talkinghorse

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kev,

The OEM Nissan 15208-9E000 cross references to a Wix 51356, an AMSOIL EaO-13 or a Mobil-1 M1-110, and each of these filters cross reference to each other. The specs for the by-pass valves on both the Wix and the AMSOIL filters are 8-11 psid.

The M1-105 cross references to the Wix 51381 or an AMSOIL EaO-21. By-pass valves for the Wix and AMSOIL filters are calibrated for 13-19 psid.

Generally speaking, using a filter with a higher by-pass valve calibration could potentially reduce oil flow ("starve" the engine for oil) as the oil pump will be trying to force thru the filter element versus allowing it to by-pass the filter via the by-pass valve (when needed). This could happen in cold-start situations; high rpm's; and/or should the filter become clogged.

My advice: Do not try to be creative with oversized filters. Stick with a filter application that is recommended for your engine...it will work as intended and give you recourse with the manufacturer in the event of a failure.

inspiredbykev

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I went to the mobil website and it recommends the Mobil 1 Model M1-108. Which Amsoil oil filter is cross referenced to the Mobil 1 Model M1-108 ?

Torkaholic

The M1-108 is the "thimble filter." It's the same diameter as the M1-110, same base plate of course, but it's only about half as tall. You could literally get two of them inside a 12 oz soda can. Yes, healthy VQs are clean running engines, and the "thimble filter" is probably perfectly adequate, but I just can't swallow using one that small. I've been using the taller, 9E000 sized M1-110 and more lately the K&N HP-1010. As you can see from the link in my "German Castrol Strikes Again" thread, particularly my particle count data, I'm getting superb filtration with the tall filter (and I'm no longer suspicious of K&N at all!). I also have an M1-105 in my possession (have for over a year). Once I noted the different bypass setting, I got uneasy. At any rate, with the A+ filtration I've got now, I see no need for the 105, but that's just me.

talkinghorse

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Tork's right...the M1-108 is very small...only about 2.5 inches tall. It cross references to the Wix 51365 or the AMSOIL EaO-12. The BP setting for the Wix and AMSOIL filters are 8-11 psid. The M1-110, Wix 51365 or AMSOIL EaO-13 are the same size as the M1-108, except they are taller.

knapp9

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This is one of the best pieces of advice ever posted. At one time I used the oversized Wix 51334 filter in place of the Wix 51356 on my Max...thinking a bigger filter was better. WRONG. I got a bigger filter alright, but a much poorer filtering one. Wix's own Beta data shows the 51356 to be 95% efficient at 19 microns while the 51334 was 95% efficient at 40 microns.

Oversize at your own risk!