Tranny Cooler is installed
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Tranny Cooler is installed
Sorry if the pic is too dark.
It took me about 2 hours to figure out where I was going to put the thing but I decided this was going to be the best place to mount it for me. I run the highway a lot and wanted it to get as much air possible. The best thing about doing this intall is that you really don't have to drain the tranny fluid to do this. I fluid that was lying in the hose itself which was not much even in small amounts.
http://a5.cpimg.com/image/57/D9/1149...-028001E0-.jpg
It took me about 2 hours to figure out where I was going to put the thing but I decided this was going to be the best place to mount it for me. I run the highway a lot and wanted it to get as much air possible. The best thing about doing this intall is that you really don't have to drain the tranny fluid to do this. I fluid that was lying in the hose itself which was not much even in small amounts.
http://a5.cpimg.com/image/57/D9/1149...-028001E0-.jpg
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Originally posted by clee130
Isn't it going to get all dinged up from rocks and such if it's down that low?
Isn't it going to get all dinged up from rocks and such if it's down that low?
That thing is built pretty sturdy and solid. I don't thing it will be an issue.
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Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
people will start thinking you got an intercooler down there
nice idea though..
i've been planning to put one in forever now
people will start thinking you got an intercooler down there
nice idea though..
i've been planning to put one in forever now
Originally posted by deezo
Well at least I thought of it from a working standpoint and not to make people thing I really had a mini-intercooler connected to my imaginary turbo setup.
Well at least I thought of it from a working standpoint and not to make people thing I really had a mini-intercooler connected to my imaginary turbo setup.
Deezo, did you need special fittings?
I ordered the B & M Supercooler, Polished and I need to use NPT fittings to connect it(did not know this prior to ordering). The cooler has two female 1/2 threaded inlets so I need to purchase a 1/2 inch NPT with a barb on the end.
Did you have to do anything special to install or was it just additional transmission hose and clamps?
If you needed add'l hose, how much and what size did you need?
Thanks MAN...
DL
Did you have to do anything special to install or was it just additional transmission hose and clamps?
If you needed add'l hose, how much and what size did you need?
Thanks MAN...
DL
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Re: Deezo, did you need special fittings?
Originally posted by dlicari
I ordered the B & M Supercooler, Polished and I need to use NPT fittings to connect it(did not know this prior to ordering). The cooler has two female 1/2 threaded inlets so I need to purchase a 1/2 inch NPT with a barb on the end.
Did you have to do anything special to install or was it just additional transmission hose and clamps?
If you needed add'l hose, how much and what size did you need?
Thanks MAN...
DL
I ordered the B & M Supercooler, Polished and I need to use NPT fittings to connect it(did not know this prior to ordering). The cooler has two female 1/2 threaded inlets so I need to purchase a 1/2 inch NPT with a barb on the end.
Did you have to do anything special to install or was it just additional transmission hose and clamps?
If you needed add'l hose, how much and what size did you need?
Thanks MAN...
DL
Don't get 1/2 inch hose because its too big. When I send you the fittings you'll be able to get the right hose size.
Bags: Thanks. You'd better do it because you're hard on your auto too.
max_speed97: I personally think the B&M is better because it has a built in bypass for the winter months to keep the tranny fluid at the right operating temperature.
Re: Re: Deezo, did you need special fittings?
Originally posted by deezo
Bags: Thanks. You'd better do it because you're hard on your auto too.
Bags: Thanks. You'd better do it because you're hard on your auto too.
hehe.. BTW.. which tranny fluid are you using? I am using amsoil and I dig it
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Re: Re: Re: Deezo, did you need special fittings?
Originally posted by bags533
hehe.. BTW.. which tranny fluid are you using? I am using amsoil and I dig it
hehe.. BTW.. which tranny fluid are you using? I am using amsoil and I dig it
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Originally posted by BBaker025
Do u like it, I was thinking about getting a hayden, but urs looks good.
Do u like it, I was thinking about getting a hayden, but urs looks good.
Originally posted by max_speed97
is the b&m better than the hayden 404? if so why? also does anyone know how much the hayden goes for.
is the b&m better than the hayden 404? if so why? also does anyone know how much the hayden goes for.
Plate & Fin Type (Best):
B&M (Have internal bypass for cold climates)
-Supercooler #70255
16,000 GVW 11 x 5.75 x 0.75" $44
-Supercooler Type #70264
19,000 GVW 11 x 7.5 x 0.75" $40
Hayden:
-Rapid-Cool #676
11 x 5.875 x 0.75" $46
-Rapid-Cool #677
11 x 7.5 x 0.75" $49
Tube & Fin Type (Good):
Hayden:
-Ultra-Cool #403
12.75 x 7.5 x 0.75" $40
May need 4 feet of 3/8" transmission fluid hose:
Gates Transmission Fluid (aka Power Steering) Hose (available at O'Reillys)
$2 to $3/foot
O'Reilly's, AutoZone, and Pep Boys carry Hayden coolers
NOTE: All coolers above will do just fine. However, the bigger-dimensioned models can be more susceptible to poorer tranny shifts for those that have harsh winter climates. It would be wise to choose according to your climate.
Quoted Message:
Courtesy of Matt93SEE
The 16,000 will still be more than enough for our cars no matter whether you live in Alaska or the Sahara. They're rated at 16,000lb because they're designed to cool the fluid enough for a 16,000lb vehicle. NOT a Maxima with a 4500lb absolute max capacity.. (3200lb car + 1300 people & luggage)
IMO, anything over 12,000 is overkill, especially in places where it drops below 40 for any point int he winter. my car got steadily more and more sluggish in the winter and only began shifting correctly when the temp got back above 60. It wasn't my driving that caused my tranny to be about 2 weeks from failure, it was the damn oversized tranny cooler.
For those that add ANY tranny cooler, I highly recommend covering at least half of it with plastic or cardboard during the winter (you see it done on trucks and busses and stuff like that for the exact same reason).
What ATF Fluid should I use?:
Synthetic should be used as a fluid replacement for its longevity and superior flash point properties. Available brands include the following:
Mobile 1 ATF (Readily available at all Auto Zone stores)
Amsoil ATF (Available at specialty dealers or at www.amsoil.com)
Additional NOTE:
Quoted Message:
Courtesy of brubenstein:
It's really important to switch over to synthetic ATF if you use a trans cooler in cold climates. It won't get as thick as conventional ATF, so the transmission will work properly even with cold fluid. It still won't shift into OD until the fluid temp reaches 122F. Another reasonable thing to do is put the cooler in the feed line from the transmission to the radiator, instead of the return line. This allows the heat exchanger in the radiator to warm up the fluid. You could even swap the lines at the transmission in spring and fall if you want.
I would not use synthetic ATF that is marked for "racing". Its viscosity is a little higher, and will only increase cold weather problems. With the B&M 70255 cooler and Mobil 1 ATF, my transmission acted fine into the 30's.
How do I install a transmission cooler?
Credit goes to member GregP for his excellent how-to write-up:
http://www.greghome.com/Greg's%20Garage/1999%20Nissan%20Maxima%20SE/Xmission%20Cooler.htm
More information about the specific coolers available:
B&M Supercoolers:
http://bmracing.com/noflash/products...perCooler.html
Hayden Coolers:
http://www.haydenauto.com/transmis.html
http://www.haydenauto.com/hc2000/e_c...f/contents.pdf
Good reference post:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ler#post240191
Only thing I disagree with deez about is you really don't need anything greater than the B&M 70255, ESPECIALLY with synthetic ATF.
B&M Supercooler is a cut above the Hayden Rapid-Cool and both are LIGHT YEARS ahead of the tube and fin Hayden Ultra-Cool 403 or 404 models. What's funny is all are around $40 to $50.....
Buying 4 to 6 feet of good quality (Gates) transmission fluid (aka power steering) hose is essential as well. On the cooler I have installed, I didn't bother with the hose in the kit.
B&M Supercooler is a cut above the Hayden Rapid-Cool and both are LIGHT YEARS ahead of the tube and fin Hayden Ultra-Cool 403 or 404 models. What's funny is all are around $40 to $50.....
Buying 4 to 6 feet of good quality (Gates) transmission fluid (aka power steering) hose is essential as well. On the cooler I have installed, I didn't bother with the hose in the kit.
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
Only thing I disagree with deez about is you really don't need anything greater than the B&M 70255, ESPECIALLY with synthetic ATF.
Only thing I disagree with deez about is you really don't need anything greater than the B&M 70255, ESPECIALLY with synthetic ATF.
Originally posted by deezo
You're right about it being more than enough but it should be fine. I know as of now (Summer), it shifts no different. I am curious to see how well the bypass works when its about 20 degrees out.
You're right about it being more than enough but it should be fine. I know as of now (Summer), it shifts no different. I am curious to see how well the bypass works when its about 20 degrees out.
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
Yeah, me too. Drop us a line when it gets that cold. I'm curious to see how well the B&M performs. brubenstein is the only one I know of who has used a B&M cooler and synthetic ATF in cold conditions with no probs.
Yeah, me too. Drop us a line when it gets that cold. I'm curious to see how well the B&M performs. brubenstein is the only one I know of who has used a B&M cooler and synthetic ATF in cold conditions with no probs.
deezo
Originally posted by deezo
Are you going to put it on for show or are you going to hook it up.
Are you going to put it on for show or are you going to hook it up.
deezo

i finally got in touch with don amd my vb should be here in a couple weeks.
so it will be functional..
and all my mods are functional...grrr
Originally posted by deezo
Will do but I'll tell you, this cooler gets HOT!!!! Don't ask me how I know.
deezo
Will do but I'll tell you, this cooler gets HOT!!!! Don't ask me how I know.
deezo
I have the B&M 70255. Great cooler, solid construction. B&M advertises that this cooler is nearly indestructible. I believe them...there are no thin aluminum fins to bend, and based on how hot it gets it seems to work quite well.
I have not had any problems in cold weather with this cooler, but then I use Redline D4 ATF.
I have not had any problems in cold weather with this cooler, but then I use Redline D4 ATF.
Originally posted by Eric L.
I have the B&M 70255. Great cooler, solid construction. B&M advertises that this cooler is nearly indestructible. I believe them...there are no thin aluminum fins to bend, and based on how hot it gets it seems to work quite well.
I have not had any problems in cold weather with this cooler, but then I use Redline D4 ATF.
I have the B&M 70255. Great cooler, solid construction. B&M advertises that this cooler is nearly indestructible. I believe them...there are no thin aluminum fins to bend, and based on how hot it gets it seems to work quite well.
I have not had any problems in cold weather with this cooler, but then I use Redline D4 ATF.
Sorry Eric, I thought you had a Hayden plate and fin. And we just had this conversation about a week or so ago.
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Originally posted by Eric L.
I have the B&M 70255. Great cooler, solid construction. B&M advertises that this cooler is nearly indestructible. I believe them...there are no thin aluminum fins to bend....
I have the B&M 70255. Great cooler, solid construction. B&M advertises that this cooler is nearly indestructible. I believe them...there are no thin aluminum fins to bend....
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..maybe I should finally get off my butt and do this as well
