Bridgestone S-03 and 730
08-07-2002, 02:11 PM
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Bridgestone S-03 and 730
Considering the price difference between these two is only $9, which tire is better all-around (including noise, tread-wear, etc)? I'm in Cali, so the worst weather I'll have to deal with is a little rain.
08-07-2002, 03:13 PM
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Re: Bridgestone S-03 and 730
Originally posted by voltman
Considering the price difference between these two is only $9, which tire is better all-around (including noise, tread-wear, etc)? I'm in Cali, so the worst weather I'll have to deal with is a little rain.
Considering the price difference between these two is only $9, which tire is better all-around (including noise, tread-wear, etc)? I'm in Cali, so the worst weather I'll have to deal with is a little rain.
I guess my only concern would be the weight difference between the two tires.
08-07-2002, 09:46 PM
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S-03. it beats the 730 in almost every rating
the S-03's are the next tire i'm getting for my car. in track results, they beat the michelin pilots sports in just about everything.
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PRICE $158 $149
AVAILABILITY In Stock In Stock
PERFORMANCE CATEGORY Max Performance Ultra High Performance
SPEED RATING YR ZR
TREADLIFE WARRANTY None None
WARRANTY RATING*
HANDLING RATING 9.00 8.20
DRY TRACTION 9.4 8.5
WET TRACTION 9.2 7.7
SNOW TRACTION N/A N/A
RIDE COMFORT 8.4 7.6
NOISE COMFORT 8.4 6.3
WEAR 7.4 7.2
TREADWEAR RATING 220 300
TRACTION RATING AA AA
TEMPERATURE RATING A A
the S-03's are the next tire i'm getting for my car. in track results, they beat the michelin pilots sports in just about everything.
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PRICE $158 $149
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PERFORMANCE CATEGORY Max Performance Ultra High Performance
SPEED RATING YR ZR
TREADLIFE WARRANTY None None
WARRANTY RATING*
HANDLING RATING 9.00 8.20
DRY TRACTION 9.4 8.5
WET TRACTION 9.2 7.7
SNOW TRACTION N/A N/A
RIDE COMFORT 8.4 7.6
NOISE COMFORT 8.4 6.3
WEAR 7.4 7.2
TREADWEAR RATING 220 300
TRACTION RATING AA AA
TEMPERATURE RATING A A
08-07-2002, 10:40 PM
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if you want more traction only go for the s02. if you want traction, noise reduction and longevity, go with s03. the s02's aren't loud tho, they just dont' last long. i've had bot s02 and s03's
08-08-2002, 01:08 AM
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if you want the better overall tire go for the S0-3. 730's will last you longer and is still a very good tire. The wear rating doesnt make sense cause they rated the S0-3 higher then the 730s but 730s have a higher treadwear rating and WILL last longer then S0-3s
08-08-2002, 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
if you want the better overall tire go for the S0-3. 730's will last you longer and is still a very good tire. The wear rating doesnt make sense cause they rated the S0-3 higher then the 730s but 730s have a higher treadwear rating and WILL last longer then S0-3s
if you want the better overall tire go for the S0-3. 730's will last you longer and is still a very good tire. The wear rating doesnt make sense cause they rated the S0-3 higher then the 730s but 730s have a higher treadwear rating and WILL last longer then S0-3s
How about the 950's? Are they pretty good tires?
08-08-2002, 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by Iilac
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How about the 950's? Are they pretty good tires?
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How about the 950's? Are they pretty good tires?
The 940s are the great street tires and a great alternative to 730s. They're all season and have a higher treadwear. I think that's something you're looking for, right?
08-08-2002, 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by TurDz
Why don't you go with the 940s? I think I remember that those are slightly better in performance the the 950s.
The 940s are the great street tires and a great alternative to 730s. They're all season and have a higher treadwear. I think that's something you're looking for, right?
Why don't you go with the 940s? I think I remember that those are slightly better in performance the the 950s.
The 940s are the great street tires and a great alternative to 730s. They're all season and have a higher treadwear. I think that's something you're looking for, right?
08-08-2002, 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by Iilac
When did that come out? I never knew that. thanks for the heads up.
When did that come out? I never knew that. thanks for the heads up.
IMO, either of the 4 (940s, 950s, 730s, S0-3) are all very great tires.
08-08-2002, 09:31 PM
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The main reason I went with the 950s over the 730s or even the SO-3s is because of the tread life. The 950's have a 40K mile warrenty. There is none on the 730's and S0-3. I did give up some performance with the 950s but I dirve in the Chicago area not on a race course. They are a heavier more durable tire with a long tread life and still fairly aggresive.
A little inside info. Bridgestone actually does use real technology in their tires they get from making the Indy car tires. NASCAR can't wait to get out of their current tire contract to use Firestone tires. The people who design and test these tires for Bridgestone think the 950s are probably their best because of the balance of performance and durability.
The 730s are consistantly lasting less than 25k miles. Although $$ does not matter to some.
A little inside info. Bridgestone actually does use real technology in their tires they get from making the Indy car tires. NASCAR can't wait to get out of their current tire contract to use Firestone tires. The people who design and test these tires for Bridgestone think the 950s are probably their best because of the balance of performance and durability.
The 730s are consistantly lasting less than 25k miles. Although $$ does not matter to some.
08-08-2002, 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD
The main reason I went with the 950s over the 730s or even the SO-3s is because of the tread life. The 950's have a 40K mile warrenty. There is none on the 730's and S0-3. I did give up some performance with the 950s but I dirve in the Chicago area not on a race course. They are a heavier more durable tire with a long tread life and still fairly aggresive.
A little inside info. Bridgestone actually does use real technology in their tires they get from making the Indy car tires. NASCAR can't wait to get out of their current tire contract to use Firestone tires. The people who design and test these tires for Bridgestone think the 950s are probably their best because of the balance of performance and durability.
The 730s are consistantly lasting less than 25k miles. Although $$ does not matter to some.
The main reason I went with the 950s over the 730s or even the SO-3s is because of the tread life. The 950's have a 40K mile warrenty. There is none on the 730's and S0-3. I did give up some performance with the 950s but I dirve in the Chicago area not on a race course. They are a heavier more durable tire with a long tread life and still fairly aggresive.
A little inside info. Bridgestone actually does use real technology in their tires they get from making the Indy car tires. NASCAR can't wait to get out of their current tire contract to use Firestone tires. The people who design and test these tires for Bridgestone think the 950s are probably their best because of the balance of performance and durability.
The 730s are consistantly lasting less than 25k miles. Although $$ does not matter to some.
08-08-2002, 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by TurDz
Hmm, I just looked at the treadwear design of the 940s and I'm not liking them. I like the design on the 730s and 950s.
IMO, either of the 4 (940s, 950s, 730s, S0-3) are all very great tires.
Hmm, I just looked at the treadwear design of the 940s and I'm not liking them. I like the design on the 730s and 950s.
IMO, either of the 4 (940s, 950s, 730s, S0-3) are all very great tires.
For a Spring/Summer/Fall tire they were a huge improvement over the previous Dunlop D60A2 in all aspects except heavy rain, and we wont even talk about the Not-so-Goodyear Eagle GT+4's before that. That tread pattern is not directional but they do have a distinct outside/inside pattern.
I have 950's on my 96GLE now, 215/60/15 on the original rims and though I like them overall, I dont think they perform as well as the 940 did. Given the treadwear rating thats not surprising. They also have a peculiar high pitch whine at around 63-68 mph on the mostly concrete roads we have here in Houston. You have to listen for it, but you'll know its there.
My $0.02
08-08-2002, 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by voltman
I just wish the 950s weren't H-rated. Are they good all-season?
I just wish the 950s weren't H-rated. Are they good all-season?
(These are not exact #'s) In order to be z rated it has to be able to go like 160mph for an hour with no problems. Which is cool to have but is not very real world. I don't any places to to go that fast for that long. Yhea I wish they were not H rated too, but I have gone over 130mph and have traveld between 90mph-110mph for long periods of time with no problems. 950s are directional which is nice.
I had my 950s the end of last winter in Chicago and they did just fine. I also have limited slip though.
As far as the high piched noise at highway speeds, I have not noticed any consistant tire noise. But my I30 does have more sound deadening material so that may keep the sound out of the cabin?
08-09-2002, 12:09 AM
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actually the RE940 is a tire that i belive Costco carries. You wont find a RE940 at any Firestone/Bridgestone dealer. Even waranty for the 940 will be referred back to Costco or whoever carries it. i belive the RE940 is simlar to the RE910 that Bridgestone has. RE950s are pretty good tires, but not the best performance tire. Its main seling point is the wet traction. We got to test these on a wet autocross and they really do perform well and prolly better then most in its class.
if you take care of the 730's, they should last you 30k-35k miles.
if you take care of the 730's, they should last you 30k-35k miles.
08-09-2002, 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
actually the RE940 is a tire that i belive Costco carries. You wont find a RE940 at any Firestone/Bridgestone dealer. Even waranty for the 940 will be referred back to Costco or whoever carries it. i belive the RE940 is simlar to the RE910 that Bridgestone has. RE950s are pretty good tires, but not the best performance tire. Its main seling point is the wet traction. We got to test these on a wet autocross and they really do perform well and prolly better then most in its class.
if you take care of the 730's, they should last you 30k-35k miles.
actually the RE940 is a tire that i belive Costco carries. You wont find a RE940 at any Firestone/Bridgestone dealer. Even waranty for the 940 will be referred back to Costco or whoever carries it. i belive the RE940 is simlar to the RE910 that Bridgestone has. RE950s are pretty good tires, but not the best performance tire. Its main seling point is the wet traction. We got to test these on a wet autocross and they really do perform well and prolly better then most in its class.
if you take care of the 730's, they should last you 30k-35k miles.
No 950s are not the best performance tire. The do have the AQ2 technology. Someone getting 35K miles on a 730 would be lucky man.
08-15-2002, 05:11 PM
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Re: Bridgestone S-03 and 730
Originally posted by voltman
Considering the price difference between these two is only $9, which tire is better all-around (including noise, tread-wear, etc)? I'm in Cali, so the worst weather I'll have to deal with is a little rain.
Considering the price difference between these two is only $9, which tire is better all-around (including noise, tread-wear, etc)? I'm in Cali, so the worst weather I'll have to deal with is a little rain.
The S-03's are heavy though, but you gotta decide whether you want ultimate grip or lighter handling.
08-15-2002, 06:09 PM
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Re: Re: Bridgestone S-03 and 730
Originally posted by Maxhawk
The S-03's rock. Have them on the S now. They stick better than the Michelin Pilot Sports I had before and as just as well as the S-02 PP's I had before them. My neighbor hated the RE730's on his M3 and took them back... very noisy and too hard in comparison.
The S-03's are heavy though, but you gotta decide whether you want ultimate grip or lighter handling.
The S-03's rock. Have them on the S now. They stick better than the Michelin Pilot Sports I had before and as just as well as the S-02 PP's I had before them. My neighbor hated the RE730's on his M3 and took them back... very noisy and too hard in comparison.
The S-03's are heavy though, but you gotta decide whether you want ultimate grip or lighter handling.
08-16-2002, 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by I30tMikeD
Any Firestone MasterCare center or JustTires(owned by Bridgestone/Firestone) can get any tire made by Bridgestone/Firestone. They don't keep all the performance tires in stock so they may have to order them which they can usually get in 24hrs. That warrenty I am sure gets back to Bridgestone some way.
No 950s are not the best performance tire. The do have the AQ2 technology. Someone getting 35K miles on a 730 would be lucky man.
Any Firestone MasterCare center or JustTires(owned by Bridgestone/Firestone) can get any tire made by Bridgestone/Firestone. They don't keep all the performance tires in stock so they may have to order them which they can usually get in 24hrs. That warrenty I am sure gets back to Bridgestone some way.
No 950s are not the best performance tire. The do have the AQ2 technology. Someone getting 35K miles on a 730 would be lucky man.
08-16-2002, 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
yea i know, my point was being that the RE940 is not a regular tire that Firestone/Bridgestone carries. if you brought a RE940 into a Firestone dealer they would prolly refer you to where you purchased them. (thats what we do) i sell RE730's all the time and i regularly see 30k on them and SOMETIMES 35k on them, at that point there is 2/32 borderline 1/32 left so i guess you can say 35k MAX.
yea i know, my point was being that the RE940 is not a regular tire that Firestone/Bridgestone carries. if you brought a RE940 into a Firestone dealer they would prolly refer you to where you purchased them. (thats what we do) i sell RE730's all the time and i regularly see 30k on them and SOMETIMES 35k on them, at that point there is 2/32 borderline 1/32 left so i guess you can say 35k MAX.
Hey, if you see people getting that much tread life out of a 730, excellent. I just have not known it to last that long.
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