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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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help! racing ticket!

I just got a racing ticket here last nite in STL, missouri. my ticket says "excessive speed from the start - racing" . The funny thing is, I never went over 30 mph, which was the speed limit, and I slowed down a lot to turn into my school's residential area. It was about a block long. Anyway, I am an Illinois resident, does anybody know if my insurance will find out? My court date is next month. I guess my possibilities are to plead guilty or not guilty, so I need some help on what to do and what the possible outcomes are? I'm already talking to a lawyer, since I never exceeded 30 mph, although I was accelerating somewhat next to my friends car, but I stopped after like a second. OKay, thanks guys.
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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OMG...I didn't even know there is a law on "Accelerating too fast".....b/c I always accelerate pretty fast to whatever the speed limit is. What the hack?! Hope the best for you my friend.
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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Go for innocent and tell them you might have sped up fast but did not break the speed limit and was not racing since nobody was around you. Hope for the best.

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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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you can get pulled over for accelerating very fast .... but i don't know about this one ... good luck
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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um i got a street racing ticket a while back, in cali you have to go over the speed limit in order for it to be called streetracing, if you dont go past the speedlimit it is unsafe start or excebition of speed. streetracing espicailly when your under 18 heeh you wont be able to get insurance trust me i kno.
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 06:24 PM
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Look up your state laws. NYC doesn't accept any tickets out of state except DWI.
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by orgasmicNYC
Look up your state laws. NYC doesn't accept any tickets out of state except DWI.
"jack rabbiting" or something...they can..its like if you have a super fast car...and MASH it to 25mph..you can cause some serious damdage to things around you....not to mention you could be out of control....its a grey aera..
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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Yeah, I've heard you can get ticketed for taking off from a stop, even if you don't exceed the speed limit. It's called "exhibition of acceleration". What BS.

As for interstate insurance, I never leave Texas, so I can't help you there .
Old Oct 26, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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Fight it. If he was unable to clock you and would be willing to admit that you never broke the speed limit, the ine and points will be either reduced or dropped.

Also, make up a story about having transmission hesitation under heavy acceleration and that flooring it was the only way to test it. And your friend was next to you to help listen to the timing on the shift since you can't hear it in the car.
Old Oct 26, 2002 | 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by asu174
Fight it. If he was unable to clock you and would be willing to admit that you never broke the speed limit, the ine and points will be either reduced or dropped.

Also, make up a story about having transmission hesitation under heavy acceleration and that flooring it was the only way to test it. And your friend was next to you to help listen to the timing on the shift since you can't hear it in the car.
i agree. about a month ago i got 2 tickets, one for "exhibition of power and speed by accelrating to make the tires screech" nad of course no front plate . my lawyers is gonna blame it on defective hardware since i had my ACT installed the week before "i wasn't use to the clutch and it wasnt broken in."


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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 08:23 AM
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As far as your insurance I wouldn't worry about it unless you are going to change insurance companies. The only way your insurance will go up is if the company runs an audit on you. When you get a ticket it only goes on your record, usually for about three years, your insurance company will NOT get notification of this. The only way they will find out is if they look. Audits are run by companies if your trying to get insurance from them, usually when you turn 18, and when you turn 25, or randomly. If you don't tell your insurance and keep your current insurance company, chances are your rates won't go up until you turn 18 or 25.

Like others said if even if you didn't break the speed limit you still can be charged with exhibition of speed. That could be accelerating to fast, screaching your tires, or poping a wheely on a motor cycle.
Old Oct 26, 2002 | 03:07 PM
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I would go to court and see if you can get it reduced. It will be a big point ticket.

The last couple of times I moved or changed insurance companies they actually looked back 5 years. Those stupid tickets hang on for a long time.
Old Oct 26, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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Innocent. As long as you didn't break traction and didn't go over the speed limit and of course weren't racing another car, the judge should throw this one out. Tell him you have a Nissan Maxima which is a family car
Old Oct 26, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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My buddy got a ticket for taking off after a stop light, the cop called it reckless driving ???
Old Oct 27, 2002 | 01:08 AM
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sucks being 18 and going over the speed limit by 5mph
Old Oct 27, 2002 | 04:08 PM
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Actually this sucks >>>>

I got a friend that got the same ticket...."racing" even though he wasn't. Basically he has one of the "Sport Compact" cars and his friend has a similar car and they were side by side talking not going over the speed limit. The cop pulled them over and gave them a ticket for "racing" saying that they were side by side, they tried to explain to the cop that they were just talking and not racing, cop said "explain that to the judge" well when court day came they tried to explain it to the judge but the judge would not even listen to them and pronounced them guilty. I hate to say it but we think it was discrimination thing, my friend and his friend are ASIAN, under 25 years of age, have "sport compact cars", the copy was caucasian, the judge was the caucasian. Typical sterotyping in my opinion. He has received 2 other tickets for simlar things and is really thinking of selling his car now and getting a truck, cuz he says that cops just love to follow him, etc.
Old Oct 27, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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Re: Actually this sucks >>>>

Originally posted by JULIAN
... I hate to say it but we think it was discrimination thing, my friend and his friend are ASIAN, under 25 years of age, have "sport compact cars", the copy was caucasian, the judge was the caucasian. Typical sterotyping in my opinion....
I get so sick of this whiny $HIT! Johny Cochran has taught the loafers in this country that if you get caught doing something illeagal and you happen to be any color besides white, you are homosexual, or of some ethnicity other than Anglo Saxon, "racism" is a defense...grow up and take responsibility, regardless of what color, race, ethnicity, or sexual oreintation you happen to be...

Originally posted by aznsap

... I'm already talking to a lawyer, since I never exceeded 30 mph, although I was accelerating somewhat next to my friends car, but I stopped after like a second.
Ok, you were "accelerating somewhat" next to your friends car, but weren't racing huh? Riiiiiiiigggghhhhhhttttt......
Old Oct 27, 2002 | 06:52 PM
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take it to court, Did you spin your tires? If so they can get you for that
Old Oct 27, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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Re: Re: Actually this sucks >>>>

If he did wrong he would take responsibility but he did nothing wrong, driving right next to someone is that ILLEGAL ??? Also I would not consider my friend a LOAFER, he has a good paying job, he paid for his own car, nothing was given to him by his parents, etc.

I agree with you about the people not taking responsibility for their actions, but there are many people out there that are innocent and are accused of doing things they didn't, happens all the time, but it has been proven that the majority of the people that are innocent and accused of crime they did not commit are minorities. I am not trying to make this thing a minority issue, I am just stating what I read and what happened to my friend.
Old Oct 27, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by asu174

Also, make up a story about having transmission hesitation under heavy acceleration and that flooring it was the only way to test it. And your friend was next to you to help listen to the timing on the shift since you can't hear it in the car.
DO NOT DO THIS! If you do, you're admitting you were driving exactly like the cop said when he gave you the ticket. You'd be admitting guilt if you plead this in court.

fst96se: Amen. But it's all too common. And by the way, now those same people will call you racist for making that comment.
Old Oct 27, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by Cutlr7
take it to court, Did you spin your tires? If so they can get you for that
Nope, my tires never spun. I didn't even go full throttle, maybe 3/4. and I slowed down in about half a block, becuase I had to make the next right. I didn't have to slow significantly to make my turn either, and the speed limit was 30mph, which i never passed. yes, i pulled ahead of my friend next to me, but i slowed down before reaching the speed limit, and he passed me.
Old Oct 27, 2002 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by aznsap


Nope, my tires never spun. I didn't even go full throttle, maybe 3/4. and I slowed down in about half a block, becuase I had to make the next right. I didn't have to slow significantly to make my turn either, and the speed limit was 30mph, which i never passed. yes, i pulled ahead of my friend next to me, but i slowed down before reaching the speed limit, and he passed me.
i just got a ticket for that. he said i burned out my tires and accelerated quickly. 'RECKLESS DRIVING' just so you know, some states suspend your license for racing or reckless driving. personally, im pleading not guilty, i didnt even spin my tires.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 06:55 AM
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And by the way, now those same people will call you racist for making that comment.
What comment? Do you know what color I am, or what racial ethnicity I am?
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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Re: help! racing ticket!

Originally posted by aznsap
I just got a racing ticket here last nite in STL, missouri. my ticket says "excessive speed from the start - racing" . The funny thing is, I never went over 30 mph, which was the speed limit, and I slowed down a lot to turn into my school's residential area. It was about a block long. Anyway, I am an Illinois resident, does anybody know if my insurance will find out? My court date is next month. I guess my possibilities are to plead guilty or not guilty, so I need some help on what to do and what the possible outcomes are? I'm already talking to a lawyer, since I never exceeded 30 mph, although I was accelerating somewhat next to my friends car, but I stopped after like a second. OKay, thanks guys.
You should be fine. According to the conversation I was having with PrinzII, the following states are connected:

IL, IN, WI, MI, OH.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 07:57 AM
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Re: Actually this sucks >>>>

Originally posted by JULIAN
I got a friend that got the same ticket...."racing" even though he wasn't. Basically he has one of the "Sport Compact" cars and his friend has a similar car and they were side by side talking not going over the speed limit. The cop pulled them over and gave them a ticket for "racing" saying that they were side by side, they tried to explain to the cop that they were just talking and not racing, cop said "explain that to the judge" well when court day came they tried to explain it to the judge but the judge would not even listen to them and pronounced them guilty. I hate to say it but we think it was discrimination thing, my friend and his friend are ASIAN, under 25 years of age, have "sport compact cars", the copy was caucasian, the judge was the caucasian. Typical sterotyping in my opinion. He has received 2 other tickets for simlar things and is really thinking of selling his car now and getting a truck, cuz he says that cops just love to follow him, etc.
It has to do more with his car, and his age. Street racers are seen as punks and trouble makers. I get the same thing from the police and I'm white.
Does your friend have window washer lights? Because I was thinking about it, and if I were a cop I would right dumb people like that every kind of ticket I could.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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Re: Re: Actually this sucks >>>>

Originally posted by Street Reeper


I would right dumb people like that every kind of ticket I could.
does anyone else find this kind of funny?
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 01:26 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Actually this sucks >>>>

Originally posted by grody


does anyone else find this kind of funny?
Righting is fundimental.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Actually this sucks >>>>

Originally posted by grody


does anyone else find this kind of funny?
I know I did.

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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Re: Re: Actually this sucks >>>>

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It has to do more with his car, and his age. Street racers are seen as punks and trouble makers. I get the same thing from the police and I'm white.
Does your friend have window washer lights? Because I was thinking about it, and if I were a cop I would right dumb people like that every kind of ticket I could.

Actually his car is totally stock looking stock rims, etc.
Old Nov 1, 2002 | 06:24 AM
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I didnt think you can get pulled over for accel fast and not breaking the speed limit. I know that if you pop the tires you can get busted for reckless driving since at that point you have no control over the steering of the car. How can a cop judge how fast you where accel, getting to thirty is still in first gear?!
Old Nov 1, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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Here in GA you can get the same ticket. They call it "Excessive test of acceleration".
While asu174's idea is good for an excuse and I probibly would still try to fight it the result could be a higher fine. You'll just have to see what kind of attitude the judge has and take it from there, Hope your not call 1st lol.

As far as Insurance goes you shouldn't have a problem with an out of state ticket. I got popped just south of Tampa doing 112mph 3yrs ago, $295.00 ticket DOH, my Co. didn't find out about it.

Good luck.
Old Nov 1, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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What you do is go to court on your date and get an extension. Then come back on your date of reappearence and plead not guilty and fight the ticket. They will set you a court date and send a copy of this to the officer. Then go back in on any day before the date your are to appear in court and tell the judge you are going out of town and you need a new court date for trail on your ticket your fighting. Ask to schedule it earlier that week and with all the confusion going on in the courts and the cop who wrote you the tickets busy schedule, he won't show or be notified in time to be there for court and you ticket will be dismissed. Also chek the ticket for incorrect info(Name , address , liscense # , Anything)anything incorrect and they will have to dismiss the ticket.(I actually have 2 A.K.A.'s due to incorrect spelling of my name on tickets-1 for speeding and the other for stinky green-both dismissed) This info has been received by a law enforcement friend who has had this happen and he told me about it. My only caution is it only works 1 or 2 times @ the same court and then they catch on. Good luck and I also have another remedy but you have to P-M me.
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