Look, I get tired of this kind of shi+. WTF do yo uthink I do for a living? How LONG do you think I have sued people over this stuff? IT IS UNLAWFUL, and AGAINST CONTRACT LAW to change a price once a transaction has been initiated. If they quoted $336 you over the phone and you MAILED THEM A CHECK THAT DAY, the Uniform Commercial Code dictates that that price MUST BE HONORED unless the exclusions that I stated apply. It is no different than me saying that "If I kick your @$$, I will not be held responsible because I told you that I was nto responsible first." Would my statement be legally binding? NO. Not ever, not in a million years. The grocery store I shop at has a sign that says "Not responsible for damge done by carts." Are they responsible? YES, if they were negligent. You CANNOT "Disclaimer" yourself out of legal duties.

SprintMax, about Maxima issues, I respect your knowledge.

About legal issues:

SHUT UP

 

you say they were priced way to cheap as if we know how much courtesy pays for them. and what is way to cheap? just think about the budget y-pipe... Slightly different case.. but VERY similar to this situation.

but like you stated I AM happy modding

Yes they do... there is 1 dlearship here that gives discounts to org members...

and maybe your right.. maybe we should be happy they are doing us a favor with the discounts and IF the price was $336 and it goes to $600 we should just be happy... but what if they start over charging on more of thier products? then what?

I know... that seems very foolish/overkill... but if it starts it's hard to stop.

and again most of the posts in this thread, my posts included, are hearsay and since courtesy has yet to offically say anything as a few members have stated... we will have to wait and see what they say

 

SprintMax Disclaimer: If after arguing with SprintMax online you have not realized you are still on the internet.. please seek help.. thats what they pay these people big money for.. to help you


People will never learn.........

 

I know, I know. He and I have argued before. I just dislike when people don't know what they are talking about and use "facts" to back up their arguement...but are still wrong. I only used huge font to get him back for Yelling that huge (incorrect) quote. They write those disclaimers to discourage people asserting their rights, because few people know that you cannot "disclaimer" away your liability or duty...If SprintMax knew that, I am sure that he would not have quoted it so large. As it stands, he does NOT know that, so he flaired his lack of knowledge for all to see...I just corrected him.
Believe me, if I was upset, I would take my toys and go home.

 

now now...everyone just relax. no need to curse out other members of the community.
REMEMBER..THIS IS A DISCUSSON.
all i can say is yes you are right...but judgement lies in the burden of proof (i think i said that right). go ahead prove to me that courtesy did in fact said that they changed the price AFTER the accord.. it's eric's words against theirs...no other parties were present.
so in other words...suck it up and move on people.

 

well we don't know what way too cheap is and we never will (it was just my opinion). obviously the market value was raised on it b/c demand is VERY high for such a rare part in the US

 

Funny thing is, I was not interested in buying the VI...I just tried to correct 5-10 posts with incorrect information. You are corrct, th eoutcome and judgement will lie in the burdeon of proof and where a judge places it, as well as whose word they believe on the bench or in the jury box. I just get bothered when I make a point and people are ignortant (LITERALLY) about the truth and then try to correct me on something that I said that is correct. It is not that he is trying to attack me, but he tried to correct me, and was wrong. Someone on here has a sig that says somethign to the effect of "If yo udon't knwo the answer, DON'T REPLY!" Well, fo rme, it was just like that. He took it a little too personally when I corrected him, tried to throw something back in my face, and was wrong. Sorry about his luck, next time spend some time in law school, 2 years interning and clerking for legal counsel at a large university, then go to work for the largest public-interest labor law firm in the country and THEN he can extol the virtues of his understanding of the law.

I still respect his opinions on Maximas.

 

kinda ironic..that's my sig you're referring to.
just relax..u know it and i know it. that's all it matters. it's not a p1ssing match..it's a discussion. people will disagree with you and you can rebutt...but going at him like that shows your lack of tact in posting..also lack of maturity. i can sit here and shoot out every curse word u ever heard..it's all talk..prove sprite wrong. show him the facts...other than that it's all words. he showed u the disclaimer..show him that wrong and site examples don't just go off the deep end.

ok now...we all learned something today...
yes eric should get rid of his car.

 

haha


relax people

Courtesy is not a bad place.

Maxima.org has been dealing with them for years and years. Now because of one little thing, people are ready to boycott them. At least they are making the effort of bringing the VI to us, whether it is for the purpose of helping us out, or making them money, it shouldn't matter to us, because there is only 2-3 places that we can get it from, they can sure as hell charge what they want for it.
Only ****ty thing I see here is how they may have refused to sell it to you, but put yourself in their shoes and see it from a business point of view... I might have done the same thing. Although I would likely sell the thing to you if we were in the process of making a deal just because I'd feel bad for you...
Still,
**** just doesn't fall out of the sky for cheap.. if it's too good to be true, it probably is.. if not, you got lucky as hell and those who didn't get it, should just say **** it.. don't be mad if it doesn't happen again, it was too good to be true from the beginning.. I was hoping it wasn't but I guess it was. A lot of parts are expensive when they 1st come out because there is a limited amount of them but everyone wants one, then prices fall... remember KYB AGXs? Cost like 430$ when they 1st came out, if not more.. now you can get them for almost 25% cheaper. Remember Playstation 2's?
Courtesy could have waited before spreading the hype, but oh well.. not that big of a deal. At least there is another alternative to buying them.. We still don't know the final price so let's not jump to conclusions about Courtesy. I've dealt with them a lot over the years, they've been good.. I wouldn't let this one thing, which isn't even that bad, change my opinion of them.

 

eric, that definitely sucks. unlucky timing.

but all you people that posted about "business ethics" and "no its not illegal but its bad business"... who are you kidding? welcome to earth! a business is about making money. sure customer service and reputation are part of the equation, but if Courtesy can feasibly sell the VI for almost twice what they were before, do you think they will choose the money or the "nice" image?

the only time a business will make some "nice" move is when they're facing a big PR blowup. I don't think some Maxima enthusiasts ****ed off because they have to pay more for their Japanese intake manifold qualifies as a big PR blowup. I doubt that Courtesy makes a significant portion of their money off selling cheap parts to us, so how much good do you think a boycott will do?

 

let's see, sentras, wide array of Z's, altimas, frontiers, xterras etc etc etc

 

Put it this way ... a lot of us don't buy from Stillen and have an "unofficial" boycott of their products.

Hasn't put them out of business yet.

 

Exactly, and I bet they could care less.

SuDZ

 

 

the early bird.....

 

too many replies after my last post.. i don't feel like catching up

 

don't worry...you didn't miss anything

 

Okay...so far only one person got it for $366??

1. carnal_c30

 

first of all, courtesy doesn't even supply all the parts. I'm surprised people were goin after them at that low price with the few parts missing....

if they up price, i don't think they'll sell much if at all when you got people like cranman and iansw selling EVERYTHING for a little bit more. you are only gonna buy one in your life time, don't be cheap about it make sure you get it right the first time. Its a VI, not an oil change, you got one shot and if u f*ck up, you'll end up spending a lot of money....

 

gets the worm

336 shipped is/was a GREAT price as in I dont know how they got it for that cheap, I've looked into it, I know people who got their VIs direct from Japan... and 336 you cant even get that price in Japan let alone the shipping...

COurtesy is changing their price... its ok... everyone called BS on seximagtr when he posted about it, I figured what the hell and I ordered ASAP, and I know other people who made it in before this happened... we got lucky, Courtesy has the right to change prices, if they raise the price to 1000 then ok no one buy it from them!!! quit trippin!!

 

Dont trip Malik, you got yours That is all that counts!!!

 

actually mecca, all the parts except the bracket and cover are included, which were accessories in the first place, and as I said, Steve is attemtping to get both of those parts, but couldn't look them up via the part numbers on cranman's/ian's site because they are Japan Spec part numbers.

There is no doubt in my mind that Steve will keep the price reasonable, and cheaper than what we are paying now, he's not an idiot.

I'll go back and meet with him next monday and by then he said he'll be able to give me more information about part status, possibly pricing. Thanks.

 

Holy cow I didnt realize this thread got this huge. Anyhow, I just hope I dont get screwed. I think its messed up that they put block on in the midst of me ordering. I could care less about the covering in the engine bay. I dont even have my OEM nissan valve cover on.

One thing is people gota calm down on here, I was only throwing ideas out when talking about a boycott.