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Old 05-07-2003 | 04:52 PM
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Russell Zotz, aka RussMaxManiac, has made a selfish decision...

that affects the Maxima community.

Please click on the link below to see how:
http://www.boostedmaximas.com/howto/
Old 05-07-2003 | 04:57 PM
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Old 05-07-2003 | 05:03 PM
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Well, what write-ups are we missing? Let's get to it on replacing them to whatever degree we can.
Old 05-07-2003 | 05:04 PM
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Old 05-07-2003 | 05:05 PM
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Old 05-07-2003 | 05:07 PM
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If he wants his stuff back fine. But to LIE about giving the content to an innocent 3rd party is outright WRONG. Kev could have been in serious trouble and it could have affected this site. Russ I know you are reading this. You take your shat too far and personal. It's gonna bite you back in a HARD way..
Old 05-07-2003 | 05:08 PM
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Here is the list:

Lighting
Clear Corner Install
Do it yourself Clearing your Orange and Red Corners (Y2KevSE)
Installing Fog Light Bulbs
Rewiring Fogs
Another Foglight Rewire (IceY2K1) NEW!
Rewiring your FRONT AND REAR corner lights to blink with blinkers Updated 05/20
Clear 2002 Headlights
2002 HID Headlight Install
2002 Rear Taillight Install

Suspension
Stillen Rear Sway Bar Instructions (Paul2kGXE)
Stillen Rear Sway Bar Instructions (RussMaxManiac)

Performance
Installing AXXIS Performance pads
Stillen Supercharger Install Instructions and Dyno info!
Installing Random Technology Cat
Installing a Generic Cone Intake
OSCAI Install (PunkDorks)
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OSCAI Install 3 (Paul2kGXE)
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Installing & Hardwiring Valentine V1 Radar Detector
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2002 HID Alarm Fix
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Swapping out Door Speakers (PhatGuy) NEW!
Installing DYNOMAT in your Maxima (OtterMax) NEW!
Foozed's A-Pillar Removal and Tweeter Swap

Cosmetic
Removing and Reinstalling Valve Cover
Installing Mesh Air Dam Grill

Fluids / Maintenance
MT-90 Tranny Fluid Change on 5spd
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Old 05-07-2003 | 05:13 PM
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How is he saying that he holds the copyright for stuff other people wrote? If he wants you to take the write-ups he did off, fine. To have you take down how-tos just because they have been hosted by him at a point is such a pansie way for him to go out.
Old 05-07-2003 | 05:19 PM
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So the ones that have names next to them can be replaced by the content creators and republished, right? Or did he take the work of others and put his own copyright on it? Seems interesting to me that some of this may be considered public domain, designed and distributed for public consumption and distribution. But that's another argument.
Cheston has some of those items covered in his How2 section (when his site is back online). Let's see what's really left to do over. I spy a few on the list that I could cover.
Old 05-07-2003 | 05:20 PM
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Old 05-07-2003 | 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by joaquink
So the ones that have names next to them can be replaced by the content creators and republished, right? Or did he take the work of others and put his own copyright on it? Seems interesting to me that some of this may be considered public domain, designed and distributed for public consumption and distribution. But that's another argument.
Cheston has some of those items covered in his How2 section (when his site is back online). Let's see what's really left to do over. I spy a few on the list that I could cover.
It's alright, Joaquin. I was working with Cheston on moving some of MaximaDriver.com's write-ups over to the .org, so I may just have to get his lazy butt and do something now.


Originally posted by JBWhitley
http://www.max-world.org/frames/howtodo.html
Please note I have no ill will towards Jared or max-world.org [edit]. Jared is a cool guy!



Oops... wrong link.
Old 05-07-2003 | 05:27 PM
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Old 05-07-2003 | 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE

Please note I have no ill will towards Jared or max-world.com. Jared is a cool guy!


Old 05-07-2003 | 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by JBWhitley
http://www.max-world.org/frames/howtodo.html
Sweet...Jared makes it easier.

Originally posted by SprintMax
what goes around comes around
Old 05-07-2003 | 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
what goes around comes around



Usually when you least expect it.
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selfish people are everywhere!! haha rumors dude... jesus... back in high school are we now?

its all gravy one less drama king
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:17 PM
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Here is another side: http://forums.max-world.org/index.ph...st=0#entry9979
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:20 PM
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It's obvious it was done with the intent to harm Kev. The write ups can easily be recreated.

Russ, you've definitely gone too far in showing your true colors... I wish I could say more
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by JBWhitley
Here is another side: http://forums.max-world.org/index.ph...st=0#entry9979


hmmm makes sense... oh well whatevers clever...
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:22 PM
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http://forums.max-world.org/index.ph...ST&f=37&t=1046

I asked Russ to post in his defence on Max-World. Go there and read what he has to say but don't start flaming him there too. I am not doing this to stir things up even though it probably will. I just don't like seeing one sided debates. Kevin posted what he had to say and Russ should have his chance to do the same.
















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Old 05-07-2003 | 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by carnal_c30




hmmm makes sense... oh well whatevers clever...
I am not supporting either side. I told Russ he could post it there to tell his side, and I told Kev that he could link to my how-tos to keep them in the community.
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:24 PM
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I am not supporting either side. I told Russ he could post it there to tell his side, and I told Kev that he could link to my how-tos to keep them in the community.
true, I understand that, its all good as long as this doesnt blow up again or anymore... its really pointless to be argueing all the time over trival ****e
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:35 PM
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didn't he get asshurt when you posted his personal info in the off-topic forum? I think u should post it again so we can all do something malicious :clee: err oops,
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:37 PM
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is this gonna get .org shut down?
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Originally posted by BioMaxDDS
is this gonna get .org shut down?
no
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by SR20DEN


no
F him then
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by nadir_s
didn't he get asshurt when you posted his personal info in the off-topic forum? I think u should post it again so we can all do something malicious :clee: err oops,
there's no need to post it again...

it's public knowledge and we all know it
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:43 PM
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ugh...

too much drama
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:45 PM
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there's no need to post it again...

it's public knowledge and we all know it
not all of us.
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:55 PM
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Quoting Russ from the other thread:

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Since Kevin seemed to have left out alot of detail information I will go ahead and post my side of the story.

There was a post that Sprintmax posted with my personal information (address, telephone #, etc) on Maxima.org without my permission, and behind my back. I went into defense mode and requested that information be taken off-line nicely the first time from Kevin. He never responded. I responded again with a bit stronger email to remove my information. It was removed, but Kevin then posted a link to put it back online again. Again the flame went on because I was ****ed about that. He would not remove it. I asked him again in a email to remove it. I have copies of all these emails as well. Yes I got a bit ****ed in my emails because this immature behavior was being posted. Who wouldn't want to protect there info?
Your personal information could be found online. Let's do a quick look up on http://www.networksolutions.com . Go there and click on whois in the upper right hand corner. Now type in b15sentra.net in the white box.

This information is CLEARLY public for EVERYONE to see. Why haven't you changed this information if you want to keep it so secretive. Granted SprintMax posted a link to spamspade.org, information on Network Solutions is available.

You want to talk about emails?

=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Zotz [mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXX]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 14:13
To: Kevin@Maxima.Org
Subject: No last names!
Importance: High


http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=209460

Jeff’s post. We agreed to mention no last names that’s why we have handles! Please remove.
=========================================

I didn't even get home to check email yet and you respond with this
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-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Zotz [mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXXX]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 16:17
To: Kevin@Maxima.Org
Subject: Last name
Importance: High

I am not going to ask you again. Remove my last name from that post immediately. My last email has the link.
=========================================


What a nice tone there, eh? Here's my reply...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Chin [mailto:kevin@maxima.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 12:22 AM
To: Russell Zotz
Cc:
Subject: RE: Last name

You know what, Russ? I'm sick and tired of trying to protect you from
running yourself into the ground. YOU think YOU can call the shots by
crying to me everytime your butt gets 0wn3d on the forum? Well, don't
come to me with your problems anymore since you obviously forgot everything we told you. If you're not going to try and help yourself, I'm not going to try and help you either.

Go ask someone else for help because I'm not going to sympathize for you anymore. You want to "bring your lawyer" into this because your
precious last name is on the forum? Go for it..... I'll be waiting. You know where to find my address and you have my email.

Yes, don't ask me again.

Kevin
========================================

What did you reply with?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Zotz [mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 05:31
To: kevin@maxima.org
Subject: RE: Last name


I DIDN'T GET OWNED KEVIN. Where the **** did I get owned? Jeff had the wrong information. Brian had to get in there to correct him and someone else. No one is willing but us 2 really to take on the mods on your site for wrong information. I am calling the shots when my last name is mentioned. That is not right. I don't care of russ is mentioned, or my handles. Whatever. But that is why we have private handles. When a last name is mentioned that's a invasion of privacy right there.

You are a ****wad. And a *******. From this point on unless you ban my *** I am cause the forum a lot of hell and yourself.

Have fun.

You did it to yourself Kevin.

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Back to back Russ emails....

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-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Zotz [mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 05:39
To: kevin@maxima.org
Cc:
Subject: RE: Last name


Kevin you need to grow up. You let your mods get away with this
immature behavior all the time and you wonder why you have a lot of
people that cause trouble. All I asked was my LAST NAME removed from
that post. I don't care if Russ or my handles are mentioned, but I
don't want my last name mentioned. That is like a invasion of privacy.


Then take care of your stupid *** troublemaker moderators for once. And yes I know you cc'd them because I see that. When JEFF was wrong and several people had to correct him and he had to turn himself around to get himself out of being owned and with help of other moderators came back at me. I am sorry for once Jeff needs to learn to accept he was wrong. I accepted I was wrong on one point, but he refuses on the others. That is what this forum is about. Is information. When someone is wrong on there information and biased like Jeff is, then it needs to be corrected so flame wars happen.

You really think this will stop? Never. Not until you clean up your
site and your mods. Until then, all I can say is you will continue to
have problems with others and myself. Actually from this point on I
will increase my level of ****ing mods off now just because of your
behavior.

You did it to yourself Kevin.

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To be continued...
Old 05-07-2003 | 06:57 PM
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geez...after all the some1 in TX really just needs to beat his a$$...this **** is stupid, just b/c he is a compulsive lying retard we all have 2 b inconvienenced...hack sprintmax lol...what a reject... some1 needs 2 grow up russ ...you are gonna get owned by more than the moderators after this 1
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who cares... like just let it pass and its all good


riiiiiite?
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
So anyways, the arguement went on. Mods flaming me, as well as the followers. Some understood that info should have not been posted and was replying with that is just wrong, etc. I got alot of IMs telling me about it. Reason I knew about it. Long into the arguement, Sprint asked me a question that had a history of him over 2 yrs ago. I told him finally who told me, (without knowing it was a mods GF), and basically that started another flame war. The person told me this info over 2 yrs ago. I don't make up the kind of stuff I told him. No one would. Later they said it was 2 year old joke that I took seriously. I dunno about that, a joke in this type of nature would be pretty bad. So they never told me it was a joke. Anyways, it got into threats towards me from other mods, and they banned me.
[/B]
A joke? That is your excuse now? You should stop running yourself into the ground, Russ.


Here's the explanation straight from the source (names edited out):

================================================== ==============
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Let this thread stay here, Luke. Someone is going to reply to this thread. I'll handle this thread.
First off, Kevin thank you for giving me the opportunity to clear the BS that is being said about XXXXXXXX, myself and especially XXXXXXXX. It is a shame that people have to resort to such childish behavior to make themselves I guess feel and look good. Never did XXXXXXXX hit on me, harass me or make ANY advances to me. He did JOKE around with me that at the Woodbury meet he was going to race me for my underwear. It was not a secret, XXXXXXXX would say this to me many times on line through instant messages, posts on the org, and even in CHAT ROOMS where many people would see it. But even though sometimes it did get annoying and XXXXXXXX new that, I as well as everyone else knew that it was only a joke. Now if Russ who was NEVER at any of our NE meets, never took part in a conversation between XXXXXXXX and myself misunderstood or wants to twist what I said to him to prove some sick point of his, I feel sorry. To bring my name or anyone else’s into a vendetta he has against XXXXXXXX when he knows full well that I CANNOT defend myself is a shame. 17 Months ago I met XXXXXXXX and as many times as I have joked about never telling anyone it was thanks to XXXXXXXX that I met him so yes, BrianV, Russ did know that XXXXXXXX and I are together if he does not its due to an acute case of "selective hearing" or "loss of memory".

Now to address some specific issues:

originally posted by SteVtec
Taking people's statements or positions COMPLETELY out of context and distorting them to fit your argument and make the other person look bad is
YET ANOTHER thing Russ does in argument
This is exactly the case here... I never said such a thing to Russ. I was not privy to the inner workings of the ORG at that point to identify why XXXXXXXX was banned, or whether/if/who/when/what/why/how he was harassing. Obviously I did not feel harassed by XXXXXXXX. It is because of XXXXXXXX that I met XXXXXXXX. If XXXXXXXX had harassed me, do you think I would date his friend? Or do you think XXXXXXXX and XXXXXXXX would continue to have the friendship that they do? Let's be realistic here, as abrasive as he may be, XXXXXXXX has never done me any harm. The only thing remotely related to any sort of sexual innuendo that ever transpired between XXXXXXXX and I, was in a ORG AIM chat room one afternoon with about 15 other members in which XXXXXXXX and I joked about racing for underwear, it was an innocent exchange, we were goofing with each other, it eventually spilled over into some org posts, and a nice big laugh at the meets later that fall. It was actually in THAT chat room, THAT very day that I first talked to XXXXXXXX, so again, why would I ever accuse XXXXXXXX of harassment?

originally posted by BrianV

In his defense, I don't think he knew that girl was XXXXXXXX's girl when he had said it so it wasn't a blatant attempt to discredit XXXXXXXX, XXXXXXXX, and XXXXXXXX's girl. All in all it's a shame it had to be like this, but if it went on much longer we may have seen him on the news?
Brian... I don't know you, and I am not trying to be rude, but as I said before Russ did in fact know that XXXXXXXX and I were (are) an item. It has come up in several conversations, on the phone, on AIM, and obviously if you read my old posts enough you will see that a good portion of them are playing with XXXXXXXX. As a matter of fact there were even several pictures of us together at a couple of different meets last year posted in the General forum. This is not a secret, it was out there for all to know. As Luke stated in this thread he has been on the ORG less than a year and he knew it.

originally posted by RussMaxManiac
It's okay Sprint. You are clear for that for now. I just talked to her, she obviously LIED to me 2 years ago on that issue. But then again you were banned from this site for a similar one a while back very long time ago.

So anyways, I am sorry about that mis-information regarding that. That should have never been said by a few people. Mainly her
Clear for now? Who made you God to pass judgment on someone else? As for you TALKING to me today…you sent me messages that made NO SENSE to me because I was not able to see your BS posts here, I do not have access to the OT forum yet and I told you this. I also told you I was at work and did not have the time for this, instead of taking it like a man that I am not going to back you up or anyone for that matter with out knowing what I am walking into you have the audacity to call me a LIAR.

originally posted by Clee130
You are seriously barking up the wrong tree with this Russ.
And if a person who has mostly kept out of the drama is telling you straight out that you should back off, maybe you should listen.
And I'm not telling you to back off because I'm a mod, it's because I know that she isn't the person you're thinking about.
So to save you from further humiliation in regards to this specific subject, you should rethink about bringing her into all of this and trying to prove that she was the person who XXXXXXXX was harassing.
Calvin... you are 100% right here... It seems like Russ bit off more than he could chew, and was grasping at straws to save himself. I will not be that straw. I am not going to be dragged down and brought into some ugly mess because someone is not happy with the way an online argument is going. I hate to see things explode like this, but unfortunately this will not be a happy ending.

originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Oh my I am scared. I have known her for years and I have the right to talk to her if I want. She originally talked to me for the 1st time a long time ago.
Everyone else needs to grow the **** up and quit gang bangning people like you do.
You guys look sooooooo mature here...more like a bunch of children.
Russ... Look in the mirror... children? You’re the one that needs to grow up, act your age. If you have something personal with XXXXXXXX, you take it out with him, leave innocent people out of it.

originally posted by Jeff92se
Holy shat Russ, you must be a bigger moron than we think. You had better start apologizing to XXXXXXXX and his GF NOW. This ain't cool at all. XXXXXXXX NEVER comes into the BS. To make him have to get in here is NOT good.
Jeff, thanks for the concern, I believe Russ owes a round of apologies to several of us here, not only XXXXXXXX and myself, but to XXXXXXXX as well... that pathetic backpedaling I quoted earlier isn’t sufficient for the harm Russ has caused. And as he showed in several posts since then, he has absolutely no regard for anyone but himself, this was also evidenced in his IM to me earlier this afternoon.

originally posted by Jeff92se

Don't be an idiot Brian. Flaming between me,you,look,Russ, whoever in here is one thing. Bringing a man's GF and calling her A LIAR is ANOTHER thing. Especially XXXXXXXX. Who avoids this BS crap like the plague.There are some fawk-ups that DON'T get forgiven.

Jeff, again I could not have said it better myself. We come to the ORG for recreation, not to be slandered and smeared across the internet.

originally posted by Y2KevSE
If we let him stay, he's just going to continue what he is doing. Russ caused his own demise. If he didn't stop, XXXXXXXX would have made a point to meet up with Russ... if you catch my drift. It's not cool spewing incorrect information about someone's significant other like that.
Kevin, I know you spoke to XXXXXXXX earlier... thanks for calming him down, I thought he was going to have a stroke.

originally posted by Jeff92se
It's not the same Brian. In HIS eyes maybe but damn, that was a big no no in every sense of the word. I can bs with you and at the end of the day, probably by you a beer. Talk about my GF/family and at the end of the day, you're gonna have a metal chair upside your head WWF style. See the difference?
Thanks

originally posted by Aaron95SE
I don't think you need to worry about that XXXXXXXX......
I'm sure the general public here (with the exception of a few who he cant name) is thinking Russ's words dont even stack up to a big pile o' doo doo.
Unfortunately, this is a situation he has brought upon himself, with
continuous transgressions from reality like this, he has shown his true character more than once to the people on this site, and sadly to say has yet to learn his lesson. That is on him, he has no one to blame but himself.

In conclusion, it is sad that people confuse reality with on-line issues, I came to this forum in 1999 because of my love for the maxima and to make many new friends. Unfortunately Russ today you have shown me that not everyone is who they originally present themselves as. Call me a b!tch, deny what you want, fact is I know the truth, the people that mean the most to me know the truth and I have a lot of faith that people on this forum are wise enough to figure out fact from fiction for themselves, which is something that you have obviously had a hard time distinguishing.
Kevin I have said my piece, thank you again for giving me the opportunity to see for myself who my "friends" are.

XXXXXXXX





to be continued...
Old 05-07-2003 | 07:09 PM
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looks like kev is bored! go back to work
Old 05-07-2003 | 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
So I asked Kevin to remove the how=tos off the site due to the fact they belong to me nicely in 1 email.

No response.

Responded again with a deadline.

No response.

Responded again with another warning, and the last one.

No response.

I reported him to his first ISP, to please just have him remove the info.

They did, and he moved his site.
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You ask me to remove the How-To's nicely? Let me rephrase the question..... where are the emails in my email box?

The next email I got from you was this:

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You have till the end of the day Saturday to remove all copyright
material that was property of Russell Zotz and ****************** from
www.maxima.org <https://maxima.org/ > and www.boostedmaximas.com
<http://www.boostedmaximas.com/ > . If you do not I will discuss the
issue with your ISPs and they will shut down your sites until the
material has been removed.

I am giving you this as a last warning. You didn't respond on the one
email, so I am telling you now to remove the information.

Russell Zotz
Owner of ****************** and b15sentra.net
======================================


Since I was busy doing the server switch, I wasn't able to respond... along with the other 100 or so emails in my box.


On May 1, I receive this letter from my ISP:

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>
> * * * IMMEDIATE ACTION and REPLY REQUIRED * * *
>
> Please read this entire message, review the required action(s) below, and send a
> prompt reply message to acknowledge receipt of this email.
>
> From: Comcast Abuse Department [abuse@attbi.com]
>
> Comcast has been made aware that you have violated the Comcast Service Agreement
> and/or Acceptable Usage Policy. These policies can be found at
> http://help.broadband.att.com/security. Failure to comply with these policies
> may result in a permanent termination of your service. The account holder is
> solely responsible for any and all activities performed from your Comcast
> service. Please read the following information carefully to ensure that you
> understand the violation, our policies, and what you need to do to respond to
> this warning.
>
> Type of violation: Running a Server
>
> Related Policy:
> Acceptable Usage Policy: Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using
> Comcast Equipment (as defined in the Subscriber Agreement) or the
> Service to [Section xiii.] run programs or servers from the Premises which
> provide network content or any other services to others. Examples of prohibited
> programs include, but are not limited to, mail, ftp, http, game, newsgroup,
> proxy, IRC servers and multi-user interactive forums;
>
> Explanation: Comcast has become aware that you are running a server via your
> Comcast Service.
>
> Action Required: Immediately disable all services which can be accessed
> remotely via the Comcast Service. Reply to this message to acknowledge that you
> have received this warning and will ensure that there will be no further
> violations of the Service Agreement.
>
> Information regarding the security of your Comcast connection can be found on
> our web page: http://help.broadband.att.com/security. This web page also
> provides links to our Subscriber Agreement and Acceptable Use Policy (AUP),
> please review these policies should you have any questions or concerns.
>
> Related Logs/Evidence:
>
> Some services that are running on the machine:
>
> Port State Service
> 21/tcp open ftp
> 80/tcp open http
>
>
> Daryl L.
> Comcast
> abuse@attbi.com
> Internet Security Coordinator
> 1-888-565-4329 x72955
> Mon-Fri 9am-5pm EST
>
>
>
> --- DO NOT REMOVE TEXT BELOW THIS LINE ---

========================================


Sure, my fault for temporarily running a site on my cable at home... but c'mon. Why go so far just to get back at someone?
Old 05-07-2003 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
It was then forwarded on to his new ISP, which then told him to take it off line the final time. He did, but also posted all this info to everyone.
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I received that email the same day as I was transferring all the boostedmaximas.com files over to the new server... so no, it wasn't planned. Yes, I did let the moderators know of your actions.


Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
First let me start of by saying a few things. If he took them off by my first request we would have never gone this far. I only gave Jared Whitley of Max-World.org the rights to have my files. I orignally was gonna let Kevin use them, but decided not too and I sent him another email to tell him nevermind. (he didn't post that). I wish I could, but I lost my hd after that happened. Jared Whitley might remmeber this as well because I recall mentioning it to him as well a while back.
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First request? How about only request when I didn't have time to respond, or even check emails? Oh right, you didn't care because you were banned from Maxima.org for lies and rumors.

I straight up call on this. Didn't you read the 3 links I posted? I don't have the emails where you gave me permission because those were to my hotmail account. I was close to the quota limit so I had to remove a lot of emails... now I regret deleting yours.

Don't bring Jared into this. He didn't do anything... Jared, you don't have to answer this because I don't want you to get stuck between a rock and a hard place. I know the answer already, so thank you for your non-response.


Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Kevin never had full autorization to use my stuff. That is why I asked him to remove it, because if I get treated like this for something I did not do, then he doesn't deserve my info. This is nothing against any user of .org, just the owners of .org that don't need to have my stuff posted. It belongs to ****************** which is online btw, and Jared Whitley.
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Please see the 3 links in my first post in this thread. Maxima.org members... as you can see, Russ twists the truth more often than not. Since I don't have any emails regarding our conversation held last year, he's going to keep using this in his arguement.

I don't need to lie about this because lying ALWAYS comes back to haunt the liar.
Old 05-07-2003 | 07:43 PM
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Old 05-07-2003 | 07:45 PM
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Russ is an idiot.



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