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Old 07-22-2003, 02:27 PM
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HELP! Odometer possible rollback and Carfax didn't catch it!!!

While my tranny is being installed, I had the mechanic put in my gauges and gunmetal gauge rings. While he was in the dash, he and Louie (SLCI30t) found the cover over the odometer was missing. Both think this pretty much points to odometer rollback, which could possibly explain the tranny going out at 85K.

I got a Carfax report before buying the car, and it all checked out. Heres the section about the mileage:
9/02/96- 250 miles
4/11/00- 39,894
4/17/00- 39,900
5/11/00- 39,901
11/24/02- 78,513

Does anything catch anyones eye? Maybe the fact that they only drove it 7 miles in a month?

How should I go this whole procedure with Carfax?

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Carfax can't find all odometer rollbacks... It can only show you the mileage each time the car was registered, etc... So if there was a rollback, god only knows when... It's very possible the original owners rolled it back, since it looks like they only drove close to 10,000 miles a year... Although that's not exactly low or high mileage, they might have been driving it 30,000 miles a year then rolled it back, which would explain your tranny going out at what would be close to 200,000 miles by now.

By the way, I'm just making a guess...

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Originally posted by h2kFrosty
Carfax can't find all odometer rollbacks... It can only show you the mileage each time the car was registered, etc... So if there was a rollback, god only knows when... It's very possible the original owners rolled it back, since it looks like they only drove close to 10,000 miles a year... Although that's not exactly low or high mileage, they might have been driving it 30,000 miles a year then rolled it back, which would explain your tranny going out at what would be close to 200,000 miles by now.

By the way, I'm just making a guess...

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Seems to me Carfax is not too reliable, seeing as I'm the only owner of my car and I got it new, it's got mileage entries along the way too. As far as I'm concerned the only source of mileage Carfax even has is DMV. C'mon now, the State does NOT inspect your car upon titling, at least in NY and PA. VT it did. So people write in whatever the **** they want. I have an entry on my Carfax by some insurance inspection with a bogus date and mileage, same type of deal, looks like no mileage in a month then all of a sudden 24k per year. Common sense says look at maintenance receipts. Car dealers have no reason to falsify mileage readings, so there should be a receipt at least every 5k for oil changes. If a dude says he changed the oil himself as well as the 60k service, then you simply take your chances. Most people take the car to the dealer for servic e, at least when it's new or under lease. my .02
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Old 07-22-2003, 04:53 PM
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Re: HELP! Odometer possible rollback and Carfax didn't catch it!!!

Originally posted by 95maxrider
While my tranny is being installed, I had the mechanic put in my gauges and gunmetal gauge rings. While he was in the dash, he and Louie (SLCI30t) found the cover over the odometer was missing. Both think this pretty much points to odometer rollback, which could possibly explain the tranny going out at 85K.

I got a Carfax report before buying the car, and it all checked out. Heres the section about the mileage:
9/02/96- 250 miles
4/11/00- 39,894
4/17/00- 39,900<~~~~
5/11/00- 39,901<~~~~
11/24/02- 78,513

Does anything catch anyones eye? Maybe the fact that they only drove it 7 miles in a month?
Or the 1-mile in 6-days less then a month?

I'm betting the car was sold from 1st-to-2nd owner at this time, since it probably sat on a car lot to only get that mileage.
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Old 07-22-2003, 05:55 PM
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maybe the car was sitting at a dealership? it is possible you know..
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Old 07-22-2003, 07:46 PM
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I vote sitting at a dealership.
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Old 07-22-2003, 08:25 PM
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Re: Re: HELP! Odometer possible rollback and Carfax didn't catch it!!!

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Or the 1-mile in 6-days less then a month?

I'm betting the car was sold from 1st-to-2nd owner at this time, since it probably sat on a car lot to only get that mileage.
hmmm

my car sometimes doesnt move a mile in two months

how does 2000 miles a year sound?
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Old 07-22-2003, 09:07 PM
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I'm gonna enlighten everyone about CARFAX . I work for CARMAX, not to be confused with CARFAX, and when we purchase cars from consumers, we use to use CARFAX as a source of making sure we buy car at a fair price. However, it has been known to have non reported information. As CARFAX is just a guide for consumers much like Kelly Blue Book is a guide, not an acurate one, but a guide nonetheless. Carmax not uses AUTOCHECK.com and a few other guides that are not accessable by consumers such as a insurance claim check service to varify a cars true condition. Nothing is 100% accurate, and Carfax should only be used as a guide, but if you see something on a carfax report that raises an eyebrow or two, follow your instinct and don't buy it, cause a car with a salvaged title or TMU (True Miles Unknown) has a lower value than the person is selling you the car for. Just my two cents.
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Old 07-22-2003, 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Scruit
I vote sitting at a dealership.
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Old 07-23-2003, 06:28 AM
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doesn't carfax have that up to 5000$ garrenty agaisnt this stuff
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Old 07-23-2003, 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by h2kFrosty
Carfax can't find all odometer rollbacks... It can only show you the mileage each time the car was registered, etc... So if there was a rollback, god only knows when... It's very possible the original owners rolled it back, since it looks like they only drove close to 10,000 miles a year... Although that's not exactly low or high mileage, they might have been driving it 30,000 miles a year then rolled it back, which would explain your tranny going out at what would be close to 200,000 miles by now.

By the way, I'm just making a guess...

Bryan
I bought my max last year and used carfax to run a report on it. Having the benefit of unlimited use for 1 month, I ran a VIN check on my 88 camry. Wish I had saved it. But it was something like this.

10/20/94 175,235
02/05/98 124,044

I bought it at 136K. At 167K, it started to give me lots of problems, and I was too tired of bringing it to the shop. I decided to let it go and bought the max ... bastards

Carfax never said anything about possible odometer rollback. Yup, use your own judgement.
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Originally posted by kevlo911
doesn't carfax have that up to 5000$ garrenty agaisnt this stuff
yea they do. but since i dont have hard evidence that it was rolled back, i dont think i really have a case besides the fact that the cover is gone. does anybody have some ideas to help me out? i could really use $5000......
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Old 07-24-2003, 06:54 AM
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where did u buy the car
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Old 07-24-2003, 09:10 AM
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i bought the car in my homestate, maryland.
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carfax doesnt catch anything at all..... my old car had major problems with it..been in the shop MANY times... major timing issues ect.. and carfax says its perfect
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