Hear ye hear ye, all those who desire hub-centric rings for Cobra rotors (pics/info)
11-19-2003, 12:39 AM
#121
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
There might be a problem with the 5 gen. You guys might use a bigger bolt which would require you to enlarge two of the bolt holes.
Mike. There was only one dimension that needed to be changed. 2 holes needed to be moved about 2.5mm closer. I specificly told him which. But I'll take a look at them before I give him the "OK".
Mike. There was only one dimension that needed to be changed. 2 holes needed to be moved about 2.5mm closer. I specificly told him which. But I'll take a look at them before I give him the "OK".
Hmm.. so what does that mean? can i drill it myself to largen the hole? Or have my mechanic do it? But other than the hole, will the bracket be a perfect match ? thanks
11-19-2003, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by teddibear703
Hmm.. so what does that mean? can i drill it myself to largen the hole? Or have my mechanic do it? But other than the hole, will the bracket be a perfect match ? thanks
Tell you what teddibear, I'll make you an offer. Since you have a 5th gen and you seem really interested in this kit I'll be willing to mail you one (1) of my ring for a test fit on your 5th gen and of course I will need my ring back once you're completed with the test fit. Even though I have no doubt it will fit a 5th gen this will put your (and others) mind at ease. Once you get the ring go to your local parts store and pick up one Cobra rotor (keep your receipt), install the ring and rotor, break out the digital camera and oh and ha over the difference between the stock and Cobra rotor. Be warned the Cobra rotor is bigger and heavier than the stock rotor, that goes without saying. If this is cool with you PM me your mailing address and I'll try to get the ring off to you
Also for you and others, the GD on the rings will go like this.
2 sets of rings will be $48 to your door
5 sets of rings will be $43 to your door
10 or more sets of rings will be $33 to your door
The above prices are based on a PayPal payment, if you desire to mail me your payment (money order or personal check) the price will be one dollar less.
Hope this helps
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11-19-2003, 03:20 PM
#125
Cobra rotors and the Z calipers will NOT fit under the stock set of 17 maxima wheels. The 17" size might be okay, but the offsets and spoke design is not right. I don't even know if spacers would work.
Originally Posted by SteveSE
From the looks of the link posted a bit above someone fit the VR4 rotors and some Z32 calipers inside some 16" 300ZX wheels. Anyone know the chances of the cobra rotors and Z32 calipers fitting inside the stock 17" Maxima wheels?
11-19-2003, 04:18 PM
#126
candi: don'tworry about it, i dont need a test fit ring. I just wanted to double check that the 3rd, 4th and 5th gen all have the same fitments so that it would fit. I'll just buy a set of the rings and the brackets and if they end up not fitting i'll find someone who needs one. But lets get that Ring GD going too...! thanks guys... also, i'm gonna be sending my calipers to sr20den bro to powdercoat. he charges 40 for the 2 calipers... maybe we can get a gd w/ him to lower to prices... lol...
11-20-2003, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by teddibear703
candi: don'tworry about it, i dont need a test fit ring. I just wanted to double check that the 3rd, 4th and 5th gen all have the same fitments so that it would fit. I'll just buy a set of the rings and the brackets and if they end up not fitting i'll find someone who needs one. But lets get that Ring GD going too...! thanks guys... also, i'm gonna be sending my calipers to sr20den bro to powdercoat. he charges 40 for the 2 calipers... maybe we can get a gd w/ him to lower to prices... lol...
11-21-2003, 03:51 PM
#128
Drawing was reviewed and was approved. I just dropped off the drawing to the fabricator and paid for the 1st 6 sets. I hope we can get all 6 sold now.
Here are some pictures of the 13" Cobra rotor and 300z caliper. There's no bracket in the these picutures but it represents how it will fit inside a 17" rim and this case, no spacers with this Ford Cobra rim. ie.. good clearance
http://community.webshots.com/album/85315646YziGlN
Here are some pictures of the 13" Cobra rotor and 300z caliper. There's no bracket in the these picutures but it represents how it will fit inside a 17" rim and this case, no spacers with this Ford Cobra rim. ie.. good clearance
http://community.webshots.com/album/85315646YziGlN
11-23-2003, 09:21 AM
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Word to the wise on IF and I say IF you HAVE to clear out the rotor channel of the caliper so the rotors do not rub the calipers. Make sure you clear out plenty of space in there when you do it. I did not clear enough on the passenger side, apparently, when I went to high speed test them the other night. After the test stop, the passenger side made the most god-awful noise for a few feet because the rotor thermally expanded enough to contact the caliper inside the rotor channel; rubbed horribly driving home. It did subside after the rotor cooled down. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE MORE THEN 2MM CLEARENCE IN THERE. I haven't been able to take the caliper off yet to check and see what happened but I can see some scarring on the rotor for about the top 1.5mm of it. I also jacked up the car and spun the tire, seems ok; bracket is in excellent shape but it should be because the 304 Stainless Steel should be able to take more force then what a mack truck using it could put on it. Not too worried about the caliper tho cause in a fight between Cast Iron and Cast Aluminum, lets just say iron wins everytime so I'm sure all that happened to the caliper is the channel got cleared out more. So I just figured I'd fore-warn everyone about this.
11-23-2003, 10:46 AM
#131
When you say 2mm clearance, where are you measuring that from?
From the outer edge of the caliper, where it's got the least clearance (without grinding), or from the inner edge where it's got the most clearance?
From the outer edge of the caliper, where it's got the least clearance (without grinding), or from the inner edge where it's got the most clearance?
11-23-2003, 10:48 AM
#132
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Well I took the prototype brackets back to have them redone. I asked him to just take the same measurements minus the one adjustment and submit that to the mass producer but he didn't want to do it that way. He's gonna weld the two hole shut and redrill so the holes are 2.5mm or 0.10" closer. That should net about 2-2.5mm caliper to rotor clearance. He said early next week. So I should be able to do another test fit next week also. Sorry for the delay but this is how it goes when you try to make stuff fit right before the mass production starts.
11-23-2003, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
When you say 2mm clearance, where are you measuring that from?
From the outer edge of the caliper, where it's got the least clearance (without grinding), or from the inner edge where it's got the most clearance?
From the outer edge of the caliper, where it's got the least clearance (without grinding), or from the inner edge where it's got the most clearance?
11-23-2003, 11:16 AM
#134
I wasn't planning on grinding anything. I'd rather lose a bit of pad contact surface and not grind on the caliper. I was mainly curious as to the clearance you had on the ends so that I wouldn't run into the grinding you did.
on my wilwoods, I've got less than 2mm clearnace and have only ground on them when I was at the track and rotors were almost orange.
Thanks for the info.
on my wilwoods, I've got less than 2mm clearnace and have only ground on them when I was at the track and rotors were almost orange.
Thanks for the info.
11-23-2003, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
I wasn't planning on grinding anything. I'd rather lose a bit of pad contact surface and not grind on the caliper. I was mainly curious as to the clearance you had on the ends so that I wouldn't run into the grinding you did.
on my wilwoods, I've got less than 2mm clearnace and have only ground on them when I was at the track and rotors were almost orange.
Thanks for the info.
on my wilwoods, I've got less than 2mm clearnace and have only ground on them when I was at the track and rotors were almost orange.
Thanks for the info.
Yeah, I can bet the mine where orange from how hard/fast I stopped from 120. Not only did my heart drop to my feet after I heard that noise, but the G-Forces put it there in the first place, lol.
11-23-2003, 11:59 AM
#136
Nah.... one stop from 120 wont' do it.. all that will do is warp your rotors because you didn't heat them up properly beforehand.
it takes many, many stops from 120 to get the rotors glowing.
it takes many, many stops from 120 to get the rotors glowing.
11-23-2003, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Nah.... one stop from 120 wont' do it.. all that will do is warp your rotors because you didn't heat them up properly beforehand.
it takes many, many stops from 120 to get the rotors glowing.
it takes many, many stops from 120 to get the rotors glowing.
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11-24-2003, 02:11 PM
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My friend got his rotors bright orange on his 2000 5speed Max, he was driving around with the ebrake up for a while. And when he came by the house, his rear rotors were glowing red.
12-01-2003, 03:08 PM
#141
The drawing was dropped off last week at the fabricators. He also did the original units over again. I redrilled some of the holes as they were just a tad small(but will be bigger on the production units). But I have not had the time to retest fit the originals. Maybe tonight or tomorrow.
12-05-2003, 04:13 PM
#142
I just picked up the brackets today. 6 sets. I need to schedule some time to test fit on one my 3-gen though.
I just ordered some SS custom brake lines for our application also. Those won't come in until next week at least.
I need to go bolt/nut shopping to. Will be similar to the existing ones but shorter/longer as needed. ie.. same grade/thread pitch
I just ordered some SS custom brake lines for our application also. Those won't come in until next week at least.
I need to go bolt/nut shopping to. Will be similar to the existing ones but shorter/longer as needed. ie.. same grade/thread pitch
12-10-2003, 11:49 AM
#146
I very sorry. The brackets are done. But since you have a 02 maxima? You might need to enlarge two of the bolt holes. The fab guy cut the brackets with minimal clearance around the holes. So I don't know if enlarging them is an option. Are you ready for that?
Originally Posted by 02maxima
who do i make the payment to ? sorry to be pushy
plus for the price of all the parts not a bad brake upgrade . still have to get the rings 
12-10-2003, 05:16 PM
#151
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I don't know how much bigger the hole must be. If it's not much bigger, it should be okay. Teddibear, I thought you were leaving for Hong Kong or something?
12-11-2003, 04:34 PM
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Just paypal me $46.00 and it will go out usps priority mail with delivery confirmation.
Make sure you tell me who you are/what you are buying/and where to ship it. Thanks
Just paypal me $46.00 and it will go out usps priority mail with delivery confirmation.
Make sure you tell me who you are/what you are buying/and where to ship it. Thanks
12-11-2003, 11:34 PM
#154
One set has been sent. Mine are of course taken. Another set is on hold. So about two of the first run are available. I think Nupe500 was interested also.
If I have time, I'll make a simple drawing and post it.
If I have time, I'll make a simple drawing and post it.
12-12-2003, 07:35 AM
#155
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
One set has been sent. Mine are of course taken. Another set is on hold. So about two of the first run are available. I think Nupe500 was interested also.
If I have time, I'll make a simple drawing and post it.
If I have time, I'll make a simple drawing and post it.
Jeff,
I am interested but I have an interesting problem that you might be able to help with. I put on the 300zx calipers and the rotors this past weekend, and on the drivers side the inside of the caliper was rubbing slightly on the inside of the rim. Now I ended up taking the rim off yesterday and going to town with a grinding bit on the dremel. I think I may have solved the problem. In talking to Keith (Kmax2988) as we did the install together, he indicated that the bracket to relocate the caliper for the cobra rotors, pushed the caliper closer to the wheels, can you confirm this? If this is true, I might have to reconsider going to the cobra rotors, unless I end up getting different rims. I will take some pics of the clearance that I have, and post them maybe tomorrow. let me know your thoughts.
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12-12-2003, 08:56 AM
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[/QUOTE]Yes it sure will bring the caliper 3/8" closer to the wheel. You can see if the bracket wasn't there how the caliper would move inward. What type of wheels are you using? You know what's funny, I've yet to put my wheels onto the car with the Z32 caliper. I have no idea if mine will or will not rub. All this work and I'm don't know for sure. Guess I'll cross that road when I get there, but yes this as been a learning lesson.
And for everyone else I'm trying to get intouch with my machinist to see if he would honor his price from the first GD on the hub-centric rings.
12-12-2003, 11:41 AM
#159
Jeff and Mike,
I'm still running the Rustang gt rims...and I ended up getting spacers just to get the brakes to fit. I may end up getting new rims..but I think these look so sweet!...damn
This may be one reason that I may hold off on upgrading to the cobra rotors.
Mike, if the caliper is moved 3/8" towards...how much does the bracket move the caliper out from near the center of the hub. My spokes flare out from inside so they MAY work..but I'm not holding my breath.
I'm still running the Rustang gt rims...and I ended up getting spacers just to get the brakes to fit. I may end up getting new rims..but I think these look so sweet!...damn
This may be one reason that I may hold off on upgrading to the cobra rotors. Mike, if the caliper is moved 3/8" towards...how much does the bracket move the caliper out from near the center of the hub. My spokes flare out from inside so they MAY work..but I'm not holding my breath.