More "Off-the-Line" Pick Up for Automatic
#1
More "Off-the-Line" Pick Up for Automatic
Alright, this has been my first automatic transmission and definately my last. (I miss DRIVING a car) Until my next manual I must live with this tranny and I was hoping someone might have some information on how to make an automatic more responsive off the line. When I floor it at a green light it just seems to slowly accelerate, then at/or around 3000 rpm its almost like a turbo kicking in, I get the full power. Is there a fix to this or just a downside to having an auto?
#3
Originally Posted by gtr_rider
Torque Converter
VB Mod
Better tires
Dont know much about that stuff, I just drive
VB Mod
Better tires
Dont know much about that stuff, I just drive
Tires aren't the problem, I'm not loosing any grip and from my understanding the VB mod just speeds up the shifts.
#6
BTW 00-01 are slow off the line. I can about a 1 car lead on a 00-01 off teh line. All I have is intake and that takes away low end power. gtr_rider has about the only stuff you can do.
#7
If you want to go fast in an auto.
Torque Converter First.
Valve Body Second.
Tranny Cooler Third.
That should give you plenty on the street, you can be faster if you dont mind rockin 14" wheels.
You will still get crushed on the highway though
Torque Converter First.
Valve Body Second.
Tranny Cooler Third.
That should give you plenty on the street, you can be faster if you dont mind rockin 14" wheels.
You will still get crushed on the highway though
#8
Anyone know who makes an better than OEM torque converter?
As for the valve body, do you mean boring it out? I'm not going to be doing major mods to this car, thats what my compact car is for on weekends, just lookin for a little more get up for daily driver.
As for the valve body, do you mean boring it out? I'm not going to be doing major mods to this car, thats what my compact car is for on weekends, just lookin for a little more get up for daily driver.
#9
Originally Posted by LilMaxo
Anyone know who makes an better than OEM torque converter?
As for the valve body, do you mean boring it out? I'm not going to be doing major mods to this car, thats what my compact car is for on weekends, just lookin for a little more get up for daily driver.
As for the valve body, do you mean boring it out? I'm not going to be doing major mods to this car, thats what my compact car is for on weekends, just lookin for a little more get up for daily driver.
they will make you a custom converter for less than $500 and are located in SoCal. I can get you the install done for under $300 in SoCal also.
#11
Originally Posted by LilMaxo
So $800 for something that will make how much difference now????
#13
Originally Posted by ben99sel
If you start adding aftermarket TC's, don't you have to worry about changing out your axles?
#15
I was actually really curious about the stall speed of the stock one...to me it seems to be about 1500 or so (Someone correct me cause i know i'm probably wrong). i think that something in the low to mid 2000 range would be rather nice....but then again i've never even thought/researched about getting a different TC. A buddy of mine from school has an auto Supra TT (he basically stole it for $7,900 in pristine condition, from an old guy....i wish i was that lucky), and i rode with him one time, and he had no off-the-line punch at all. Honestly i would actually pull on him off the line...for a second or two... then he got a 2500rpm stall TC put in, and that thing pulled pretty freakin hard on me off the line after that.
#16
Originally Posted by kevlo911
How much more power at hte wheels would we have with a new TC? What would be hte perfect stall speed?
#17
OK GUYS... Sounds like what I want is gonna cost me a grip for a car I'm not even racing. I just thought that there was a less expensive way and never owning an automatic before, I had no clue they were so costly(for what they do).
#18
Stock stall speed is 2,000rpms. A high-still TC (somewhere around the neighborhood of 2,500rpms) would help your launch. VQ30DE-K's aren't "on the cam" (or the Turbo rush as you describe it)until 2,800rpms. Thats the rush that you feel .
Stuff that will help low-rpm acceleration:
Y-pipe
B-pipe
High-stall TC
S/C
Nitrous
Lower overall diameter tires (shorter final drive)
Advance timing
VB mod will not help low speed (below 3,000rpm) acceleration at WOT. The Axle's can stand quite a bit of TQ reliable.
Stuff that will help low-rpm acceleration:
Y-pipe
B-pipe
High-stall TC
S/C
Nitrous
Lower overall diameter tires (shorter final drive)
Advance timing
VB mod will not help low speed (below 3,000rpm) acceleration at WOT. The Axle's can stand quite a bit of TQ reliable.
#19
Originally Posted by LilMaxo
Alright, this has been my first automatic transmission and definately my last. (I miss DRIVING a car) Until my next manual I must live with this tranny and I was hoping someone might have some information on how to make an automatic more responsive off the line. When I floor it at a green light it just seems to slowly accelerate, then at/or around 3000 rpm its almost like a turbo kicking in, I get the full power. Is there a fix to this or just a downside to having an auto?
#21
Originally Posted by dmontzmax
nope, our axles can take ALOT. Look at Hal over 500hp and no problems with them.
#22
Originally Posted by C MAX
**** i wish that was true. i blow a axle every month. they cant handle the torque. i now have raxles a heavy duty axle. i also installed the limited slip to help.
I know of 5+ 300+whp Maximas that have not broken one.
#23
Originally Posted by C MAX
**** i wish that was true. i blow a axle every month. they cant handle the torque. i now have raxles a heavy duty axle. i also installed the limited slip to help.
#24
Originally Posted by 87MustangGT
Stupid comment, but do you have it in O/D? Shutting O/D off will help the off-the-line acceleration too...
#25
Originally Posted by BlueC
Wtf, an axle per month?! What the hell are you doing? Offroading? You need to change your driving style if your blowing an axle a month.
and so far so good.
#26
Originally Posted by dmontzmax
What in the world are you doing?
I know of 5+ 300+whp Maximas that have not broken one.
I know of 5+ 300+whp Maximas that have not broken one.
i always get non-believers until they see and ride in my car. thats why i make it my business to attend these meets. i have invested mucho dollars into the max and some of the stock parts just cant hang, and the axles was one of them. my set up is still in tuning stages so im gonna break something, better a axle than a motor.
#27
Originally Posted by C MAX
have you ever met me, i think not cause if you did you would understand. how many maximas do you know pushing 11lbs and 100 shot. you add up the hp.
i always get non-believers until they see and ride in my car. thats why i make it my business to attend these meets. i have invested mucho dollars into the max and some of the stock parts just cant hang, and the axles was one of them. my set up is still in tuning stages so im gonna break something, better a axle than a motor.
i always get non-believers until they see and ride in my car. thats why i make it my business to attend these meets. i have invested mucho dollars into the max and some of the stock parts just cant hang, and the axles was one of them. my set up is still in tuning stages so im gonna break something, better a axle than a motor.
Maybe it is because the stock auto is to weak for that much power but that should be part of your list of upgrades if you are going to run a lot of power. Redmax got a new bulletproof auto tranny for his turbo setup.
#28
Originally Posted by C MAX
have you ever met me, i think not cause if you did you would understand. how many maximas do you know pushing 11lbs and 100 shot. you add up the hp.
i always get non-believers until they see and ride in my car. thats why i make it my business to attend these meets. i have invested mucho dollars into the max and some of the stock parts just cant hang, and the axles was one of them. my set up is still in tuning stages so im gonna break something, better a axle than a motor.
i always get non-believers until they see and ride in my car. thats why i make it my business to attend these meets. i have invested mucho dollars into the max and some of the stock parts just cant hang, and the axles was one of them. my set up is still in tuning stages so im gonna break something, better a axle than a motor.
#29
Originally Posted by dmontzmax
And? I dont care what you have spent man, I was just asking what you are doing wrong. Obviously something to be breaking axles like that. Do you think you are laying down more than Hal? I dont...
#30
Originally Posted by deezo
Dmontz was just asking what is causing your axles to blow like that. Plenty of cars are running more HP and TQ than you constantly (SC / Turbo) and don't go through them that quick. It's just unusual.
Maybe it is because the stock auto is to weak for that much power but that should be part of your list of upgrades if you are going to run a lot of power. Redmax got a new bulletproof auto tranny for his turbo setup.
Maybe it is because the stock auto is to weak for that much power but that should be part of your list of upgrades if you are going to run a lot of power. Redmax got a new bulletproof auto tranny for his turbo setup.
a b&m tranny cooler and now raxle axles. i wish i knew the answer to why i broke them but hopefully its sovled. and how do you know what hp and torque i have when i dont even know. ask the guys at the meet
im no lightweight i play for big stakes and with big boys. and once i get dyno'd i will post once and for all. i hope that will do it.
#31
Originally Posted by C MAX
and how do you know what hp and torque i have when i dont even know. .
I've been to many NYC/NJ meets and I know who the players are.
#32
Originally Posted by deezo
How do I know? I didn't say I knew how much HP you had and I could care less if you are a lightweight, middleweight, heavyweight or dead weight. We were interested in knowing how you are breaking axles and that's all. What's with the defensive attitude?
I've been to many NYC/NJ meets and I know who the players are.
I've been to many NYC/NJ meets and I know who the players are.
Like this:
OMG DUDE!!! you have the BEST Maxima EVER! Your car is so crazy fast that it snaps axles like they are the size of toothpicks, are you sure your chassis is not bent? you must be running 300 series tires on that big boy eh? someday I wish to play with the big boys for high stakes, havent I seen you compete in the NHRA circuit before?
#33
Originally Posted by dmontzmax
I think we should start differently with him.
Like this:
OMG DUDE!!! you have the BEST Maxima EVER! Your car is so crazy fast that it snaps axles like they are the size of toothpicks, are you sure your chassis is not bent? you must be running 300 series tires on that big boy eh? someday I wish to play with the big boys for high stakes, havent I seen you compete in the NHRA circuit before?
Like this:
OMG DUDE!!! you have the BEST Maxima EVER! Your car is so crazy fast that it snaps axles like they are the size of toothpicks, are you sure your chassis is not bent? you must be running 300 series tires on that big boy eh? someday I wish to play with the big boys for high stakes, havent I seen you compete in the NHRA circuit before?
I don't know why people come here doing this shyte, wanting to be the biggest and the baddest, the fastest and the furious.....
[Peter Griffin]He said, "High Stakes."......hehehehehehe!!!!![/Peter Griffin]
#34
Originally Posted by deezo
WERD!!!!!!!
I don't know why people come here doing this shyte, wanting to be the biggest and the baddest, the fastest and the furious.....
[Peter Griffin]He said, "High Stakes."......hehehehehehe!!!!![/Peter Griffin]
I don't know why people come here doing this shyte, wanting to be the biggest and the baddest, the fastest and the furious.....
[Peter Griffin]He said, "High Stakes."......hehehehehehe!!!!![/Peter Griffin]
deezo, you sure you dont have Vin Diesel from Fast and the Furious on the east coast?
What gets me is, all this work to a car and no cardomain site? I guess you dont want the police to track you and put you in jail with the real "big boys".
#36
Originally Posted by dmontzmax
haha, I dont know which is funniest "High Stakes" or "Big Boys". I did not know there was such hardcore Maxima racers out there.
deezo, you sure you dont have Vin Diesel from Fast and the Furious on the east coast?
What gets me is, all this work to a car and no cardomain site? I guess you dont want the police to track you and put you in jail with the real "big boys".
deezo, you sure you dont have Vin Diesel from Fast and the Furious on the east coast?
What gets me is, all this work to a car and no cardomain site? I guess you dont want the police to track you and put you in jail with the real "big boys".
anyway i dont hate so if you want to make your life miserable go right ahead. i came on this thread to talk about my axles and you two haters turned this into bullsh!t. so deezo go back to your weightlifting and dmontzmax finish putting on your sunblock cause i got better things to do.
#37
Originally Posted by C MAX
you two crack me up, nothing like a good laugh to make my day.
anyway i dont hate so if you want to make your life miserable go right ahead. i came on this thread to talk about my axles and you two haters turned this into bullsh!t. so deezo go back to your weightlifting and dmontzmax finish putting on your sunblock cause i got better things to do.
anyway i dont hate so if you want to make your life miserable go right ahead. i came on this thread to talk about my axles and you two haters turned this into bullsh!t. so deezo go back to your weightlifting and dmontzmax finish putting on your sunblock cause i got better things to do.
#38
Originally Posted by C MAX
you two crack me up, nothing like a good laugh to make my day.
anyway i dont hate so if you want to make your life miserable go right ahead. i came on this thread to talk about my axles and you two haters turned this into bullsh!t. so deezo go back to your weightlifting and dmontzmax finish putting on your sunblock cause i got better things to do.
anyway i dont hate so if you want to make your life miserable go right ahead. i came on this thread to talk about my axles and you two haters turned this into bullsh!t. so deezo go back to your weightlifting and dmontzmax finish putting on your sunblock cause i got better things to do.
I just don't understand why you have too add what we don't care about.
#39
Originally Posted by deezo
Ballers and shot callers don't need no stinkin' cardomain site.
I noticed some of his mods were "Metal Matrix Pads All around" that is big tymer ish.
#40
Originally Posted by dmontzmax
ha, true...I am sure the F&F crew did not have one.
I noticed some of his mods were "Metal Matrix Pads All around" that is big tymer ish.
I noticed some of his mods were "Metal Matrix Pads All around" that is big tymer ish.