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I'm am 5 lug conversion survivor #69438

Old Jun 4, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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I'm am 5 lug conversion survivor #69438 (56k warning, pics)

And the 240 guys say it's easy!

I bet you guys are scratching your head saying "5 lug converion? what is this guy smoking?". Well here is something different for you guys to read. What a lot of you don't know is 1st and 2nd gen's came with 4 wheel lug per wheel. People are probably wondering why converted the 5 lug. The reason is simple. One, wheels. I can use newer gen wheels by doing this, and I actually have a set of 18's that I got for the car, but they are 5 lug. Second, this would enable me to use more aftermarket products, like springs, struts, brake kits etc.

Now here comes the fun. Only one other person has successfully done this conversion on a 2nd gen....and well, his instructions were pretty general. So basically the conversion had to be repioneered when I did it. We ran into a lot of problems. First since I was using 3rd gen parts, some of them were reluctant to come apart. We had to do a bunch of cutting and grinding, and that ate up time. The biggest problem was getting the rears together. It turned out I had the wrong spindles, and had to get different ones. We cound a bunch of bad parts, and overall, it was just a PITA. Everything is together now, minus my RSB, and Ebrake. Now I need new lowering springs, and I'm going to be looking at the ones available for 3rd gens.

Anyway, I need to give props to the following people for helping me on this project:

jeff92se, Mr Gone, nateplaysbass, nismo_sha, antonthegrey, iansw, and Dave Tamasi. These guys help make this conversion possible, and I give them big props for working with what they had, and helping keep my sanity levels up.

I will try to post more pictures when my DSL gets fixed.

S
Old Jun 4, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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Neat project. Just need to get some rims that show the 5 lugs! hehe

With your help, other 2nd genners can avoid alot of problems you had. I'm sure they will appreciate your sacrifices made in their behalf.

Having the right parts from the get go would have cut the down time in 1/2 easy. Just one of those things pioneers gotta do.
Old Jun 4, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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Definately. I'm going to create a detail write up for this. This should hopefully actually make the conversion easier. As for rims, the 18's are exposed lug. They are iansw old TSW Trophies.

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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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I didnt know 2nd gens had 4-lug, you learn something new everyday.
Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Werd, my dsl just came back up. Was able to upload my pics. Here they are:

All the parts:



Before Shots




Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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The work:



2nd gen spindle left, 3rd gen spindle right:




Rear:


Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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Final Product:





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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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That looks like a lot of work, lets see some pics of those rimy's
Old Jun 4, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Which ones? The 18's or the I30 rims? I can get more shots tonight after work. It was definately a lot of work, but that was mainly in taking the 3rd gen parts apart, then putting them back together realizing we had the wrong part. I'm going to do a write up for the 1st and 2nd gen forum on the process in detail, with the list of right parts to make this work. This should be probably about as difficult as doing a strut/spring install if you really think about it. Just a few extra parts to unbolt.

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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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All in all, the work wasnt too bad, the part that sucked was not having the right parts and having to redo everything a few times lol.

end result


Old Jun 4, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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Shawn...I just had someone hit me. Remember how the 92se and 86se rear calipers are almost identical minus the ebrake hook? Something hit me. The calipers seperates in to 2 piece. The section that bolts in to the braket and holds the pads, and the actual caliper/piston itself. We needed fixed section that bolts on to the bracket from the 92se one because it's thicker. But theretically, we can use the 86se piston etc. If that's the case, then theoretically, I don't need to order a new parking brake cable right? I should just bolt on the piston assembly and call it good! Dammit! Do you want to help me try that today?

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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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Great Job
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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So all in all we need to get the parts from a 92SE with rear disk.
Correct?
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by njdjh2o
So all in all we need to get the parts from a 92SE with rear disk.
Correct?
that would be the easiest way

stick with one donor car
if you need more than 1 car, stick with the same year or atleast 89-91 or 92-94.
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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I was thinking since most of the Honda 4 bangers and the SE-R comes with 4 lugs that you might have lots of options also..

If the SE-R 17's came in 5 lug i would have bought them as a set of winter wheels
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by §Þ®ïn†mä×
I was thinking since most of the Honda 4 bangers and the SE-R comes with 4 lugs that you might have lots of options also..

If the SE-R 17's came in 5 lug i would have bought them as a set of winter wheels
yeah, but he already had the 18"s, plus it gives him the ability to run Jeff or Matt or any other BBK kit on his car. He might have been able to before by using an SE-R kit or 240sx kit, but it's just another option lol .

I dont think he would have done it if he didn't have the 18's
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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where's your write up? exact parts and stuff.....just giving you a hard time
Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by maximase86
Which ones? The 18's or the I30 rims? I can get more shots tonight after work. It was definately a lot of work, but that was mainly in taking the 3rd gen parts apart, then putting them back together realizing we had the wrong part. I'm going to do a write up for the 1st and 2nd gen forum on the process in detail, with the list of right parts to make this work. This should be probably about as difficult as doing a strut/spring install if you really think about it. Just a few extra parts to unbolt.

S

18's of course.. you have the hottest 2nd gen ever
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Nice

I also love your 2nd gen
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nice work dude
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