When someone has their engine "built" what exactly is done?
#1
If you have your engine "built", say if you wanted to run high boost without having the engine blow, what exactly gets done to the engine? If you wanted to have this done a Maxima, what would you need to have done, and what would an average price be? Sorry if this sounds dumb, but Im trying to learn about this stuff, and Thanks for any answers.
#2
generally its a custom rebuild to enhance flow, balance reciprocating assemblies, put stronger parts in to replace OEM parts, and inthe case of boost, often times they will drop the compression ratio with forged pistons to acommodate higher boost levels.
#3
Originally posted by Czar
generally its a custom rebuild to enhance flow, balance reciprocating assemblies, put stronger parts in to replace OEM parts, and inthe case of boost, often times they will drop the compression ratio with forged pistons to acommodate higher boost levels.
generally its a custom rebuild to enhance flow, balance reciprocating assemblies, put stronger parts in to replace OEM parts, and inthe case of boost, often times they will drop the compression ratio with forged pistons to acommodate higher boost levels.
#4
Moderator running more PSI than all the boosted Maximas... combined
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We don't drive a 4 banger honda so it's not going to be cheap. A typical built honda 4 banger is around $4K. For us, probably double that price.
Originally posted by CoOlKidS1979
If you have your engine "built", say if you wanted to run high boost without having the engine blow, what exactly gets done to the engine? If you wanted to have this done a Maxima, what would you need to have done, and what would an average price be? Sorry if this sounds dumb, but Im trying to learn about this stuff, and Thanks for any answers.
If you have your engine "built", say if you wanted to run high boost without having the engine blow, what exactly gets done to the engine? If you wanted to have this done a Maxima, what would you need to have done, and what would an average price be? Sorry if this sounds dumb, but Im trying to learn about this stuff, and Thanks for any answers.
#5
Crower has....
6 cylinder rebuild for about $5500--->
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Crower is the world's largest manufacturer of high performance crankshafts. Stroker kits are available for
most applications, however you may be required to supply factory crank and stroke parameters.
Features:
-a Crower 4340 steel billet crankshaft (you spec stroke), -Crower 4340 steel billet rods
-custom JE pistons,premium H-11 pins, rings, locks, buttons and Crower system balancing. Some block clearancing may be equired.
Allow 16 weeks delivery. 50% deposit required on all orders.
Crower billet stroker crank (any desired stroke). Crower billet stroker rods. Custom length w/Maxi-Light stroker design. JE custom pistons. Modified pin boss for longer rod, specify compression (9:1 - 14+:1) & bore. Premium, H-11 tool steel pins, gapless rings, locks, spacers. Works with factory rod and main bearings. Crower internal balancing for drop in installation.
$$$$---> Cost: $4000 - 4 cylinder (50% deposit required). Allow 16 weeks delivery.
$$$$---> Cost: $5500 - 6 cylinder (50% deposit required). Allow 16 weeks delivery.
For block sleeving, contact Benson Performance Machine at 714-241-1284 for info and pricing.
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They also have--->
Custom billet crankshafts are available for any make (Nissan, Porsche, BMW, VW, etc.) however leadtimes
are 3-4 months for delivery. 50% deposit required. Prices start at $2400.
© 2000 Crower Cams & Equipment Co., Inc.
================================================== =========
Crower Stroker Kits:
Crower is the world's largest manufacturer of high performance crankshafts. Stroker kits are available for
most applications, however you may be required to supply factory crank and stroke parameters.
Features:
-a Crower 4340 steel billet crankshaft (you spec stroke), -Crower 4340 steel billet rods
-custom JE pistons,premium H-11 pins, rings, locks, buttons and Crower system balancing. Some block clearancing may be equired.
Allow 16 weeks delivery. 50% deposit required on all orders.
Crower billet stroker crank (any desired stroke). Crower billet stroker rods. Custom length w/Maxi-Light stroker design. JE custom pistons. Modified pin boss for longer rod, specify compression (9:1 - 14+:1) & bore. Premium, H-11 tool steel pins, gapless rings, locks, spacers. Works with factory rod and main bearings. Crower internal balancing for drop in installation.
$$$$---> Cost: $4000 - 4 cylinder (50% deposit required). Allow 16 weeks delivery.
$$$$---> Cost: $5500 - 6 cylinder (50% deposit required). Allow 16 weeks delivery.
For block sleeving, contact Benson Performance Machine at 714-241-1284 for info and pricing.
------------------------------------------------------------
They also have--->
Custom billet crankshafts are available for any make (Nissan, Porsche, BMW, VW, etc.) however leadtimes
are 3-4 months for delivery. 50% deposit required. Prices start at $2400.
© 2000 Crower Cams & Equipment Co., Inc.
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my motor build is costing about 3500 at cost. pistons,rods,cams,SS valves,head gasket,head work.im not sure how much markup there would be for retail. You can build a Honda motor for much much cheaper then 4k. Of course all this depends on quality and material of parts you choose and how many parts you change in your "build"
#7
Thanks for all the responses. What would meed to be done to a Maxima engine if you wanted to be able to handle around 15psi? Keeping in mind that you would want to replace just what was neccessary in order to keep costs down?
#8
dam
Originally posted by CoOlKidS1979
[B What would meed to be done to a Maxima engine if you wanted to be able to handle around 15psi? [/B]
[B What would meed to be done to a Maxima engine if you wanted to be able to handle around 15psi? [/B]
Although i think
boost in psi is a good measure but it doesn't say how much air is flowing into the engine..that is measured in cfm. the pressure of the air is the psi but this depends on the size of the pipe carrying the air into the motor.
15psi from an S/C and 15 psi from a turbo for a maxima are two different things
Ant
#9
Re: dam
Originally posted by Ant95se
15psi in a maxima ? thas A LOT of boost
Although i think
boost in psi is a good measure but it doesn't say how much air is flowing into the engine..that is measured in cfm. the pressure of the air is the psi but this depends on the size of the pipe carrying the air into the motor.
15psi from an S/C and 15 psi from a turbo for a maxima are two different things
Ant
15psi in a maxima ? thas A LOT of boost
Although i think
boost in psi is a good measure but it doesn't say how much air is flowing into the engine..that is measured in cfm. the pressure of the air is the psi but this depends on the size of the pipe carrying the air into the motor.
15psi from an S/C and 15 psi from a turbo for a maxima are two different things
Ant
#11
Re: hmm
Oh I suppose it's possible. I have seen supercharged Hondas running crazy levels of boost on all stock internals but it requires alot of creative and custom work. No bozo off the shelf kits here.
If you knew exactly what you were doing and were willing to pull the heads to work on them it might be possible. I suppose water injection would be a must, a full stand-alone engine management, and maybe a re-done knock sensor system.
If you knew exactly what you were doing and were willing to pull the heads to work on them it might be possible. I suppose water injection would be a must, a full stand-alone engine management, and maybe a re-done knock sensor system.
Originally posted by Ant95se
if your tryin to say 15psi on stock internal...
i don't think so, you can do it and then watch you 10best engine go BOOM
Ant
if your tryin to say 15psi on stock internal...
i don't think so, you can do it and then watch you 10best engine go BOOM
Ant
#12
Re: hmm
Originally posted by Ant95se
if your tryin to say 15psi on stock internal...
i don't think so, you can do it and then watch you 10best engine go BOOM
Ant
if your tryin to say 15psi on stock internal...
i don't think so, you can do it and then watch you 10best engine go BOOM
Ant
#13
Re: Re: hmm
Probably a totally rebuilt shortblock. Stock crank is probably okay but better rods and pistons are a must. Probably have to 0-ring the block and run copper head gaskets. If compression is an issue, then different length pistons and rods might be necessary.
You have to realizie ONE thing. Just building a motor does not = an engine that can handle 15psi or whatever. It just means that the engine is capable of handling 15psi. If you run the wrong timing or the wrong a/f ratios, you will probably burn that engine up also. It takes PROPER TUNING in order to get the power and reliability.
You have to realizie ONE thing. Just building a motor does not = an engine that can handle 15psi or whatever. It just means that the engine is capable of handling 15psi. If you run the wrong timing or the wrong a/f ratios, you will probably burn that engine up also. It takes PROPER TUNING in order to get the power and reliability.
Originally posted by CoOlKidS1979
Nooooo not on stock internals, I meant if you wanted to run 15 psi with an intercooler and water injection if necessary then what would you have to have done to your engine. Assuming you upgrade the fuel and injectors. Theres no way I would ever spend 5000+ to build the engine + the supercharger + intercooler. I guess what I want to know is what is the least that has to be done to the engine to get it to reliably handle 15 psi?
Nooooo not on stock internals, I meant if you wanted to run 15 psi with an intercooler and water injection if necessary then what would you have to have done to your engine. Assuming you upgrade the fuel and injectors. Theres no way I would ever spend 5000+ to build the engine + the supercharger + intercooler. I guess what I want to know is what is the least that has to be done to the engine to get it to reliably handle 15 psi?
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