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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 04:05 PM
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Ah, this thread again.

I think its time to lock this bad boy, dont ya think???
Old Jun 2, 2001 | 05:38 PM
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Ah flyry, you must by lying
Old Jun 2, 2001 | 10:10 PM
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Re: Re: My view (not that it counts, but here it is)

Originally posted by flyry110
um dude, i pulled the pistons in my jeep cherokee (2.46L otherwise known as a 2.5 to non jeep buffs. 150 ci) the reason i pulled the pistons was cause i had 2 broken rings. so we replaced them. I know for a FACT it CAN be done and I HAVE done it. Also, on my buddy's prelude, we almost did this type of rebuild before he did a swap. don't tell me i'm full of it mechanic man! LOL, just cause you don't do it that way at the dealership or wherever the hell you work, doesn't mean it can't be done. Jason (best friend) is an ASE certified mechanic, and is a nissan tech over at west hills here in PA. Him and i did this to my jeep and i know it can be done with a max.

Hello??!!!???

Where in this thread am I saying this can't be done in a Jeep? anywhere?

YES, IT IS POSSIBLE IN SOME CARS, cause I've done it several times.....Can it be done in a Maxima.....NOPE!!!! Please do not reply with guesses, comparisons to other cars, etc....its only skirting the issue. If you know anything about the VQ (design, layout, etc...) you will then know the motor cannot be rebuilt (or pistons/rods) replaced without pulling the motor.

Please do not correct me when you have not pulled a VQ, or rebuilt one without pulling it.

If someone is out there that can back up the smack they are talking, please....back it up. But the BS like "I can do it on a Briggs & Stratton" or "one time....on a friends car" PLEASE READ THE THREAD AND THE POSTS BEFORE YOU RESPOND!!!

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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 10:42 PM
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Re: Re: Re: My view (not that it counts, but here it is)

Don, you appear to have some serious unresolved anger issues. i know a good counselor you might want to talk to.
Old Jun 2, 2001 | 10:49 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: My view (not that it counts, but here it is)

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Don, you appear to have some serious unresolved anger issues. i know a good counselor you might want to talk to.
Its not anger....As for the counselor.....talk to this I know what I'M talking about.

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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 11:19 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My view (not that it counts, but here it is)

ok, so what you're saying is that if you were to drop the tranny in a VQ maxima, and then pull the pan, it would be impossible to upgrade the things phil is talking about? so when he pulled the tranny to do the LSD, you dont think he could have possibly pulled the pistons huh? why is this? The tranny had to come completely out to install the LSD, why couldn't he have done it then. huh smart guy? and i'm still confused on some things. why do you think the engine has NEVER been out? i'm gonna ask phil myself tomorrow, but dude, why are you all defensive. i'm sure you are a fine mechanic, and i'm sure you make your nissan proud.
Old Jun 3, 2001 | 10:13 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My view (not that it counts, but here it is)

Originally posted by flyry110
ok, so what you're saying is that if you were to drop the tranny in a VQ maxima, and then pull the pan, it would be impossible to upgrade the things phil is talking about? so when he pulled the tranny to do the LSD, you dont think he could have possibly pulled the pistons huh? why is this? The tranny had to come completely out to install the LSD, why couldn't he have done it then. huh smart guy? and i'm still confused on some things. why do you think the engine has NEVER been out? i'm gonna ask phil myself tomorrow, but dude, why are you all defensive. i'm sure you are a fine mechanic, and i'm sure you make your nissan proud.
Ok, last response on this one. After this, It will be clear why this cannot be done (smart guy).

There is a upper and lower oil pan. The lower oil pan is the one that looks like a normal oil pan. The on on the VQ is about 6-8 inches square. If you pull it, all you see is the oil sump and windage tray. If you remove this, you can see 1 or 2 rods. (smart guy)

To get to all pistons/rods, you will then need to remove the upper pan (looks like the block actually it runs the length of the block too, smart guy) The upper pan is WAY TO BIG to remove unless you remove the engine. Plain and simple. Its not like a SB Chevy, where you pull the 2 foot long pan and all the lower end is out in the open.

To do this you need to pull the front cam cover as well (but I bet you knew this too, huh smart guy?) The upper pan is WAY TO BIG to remove unless you remove the engine. Plain and simple. Its not like a SB Chevy, where you pull the 2 foot long pan and all the lower end is out in the open.

To pull the front cam cover, you need to remove the passenger side engine mount (but you knew that too)

Ok, one more....If you pulled the pistons, you would have to install them via the top of the block, so now you have to pull the heads, too ....right? If they didn't, how'd ya get the rings compressed and back in the cylinder?

Check with whoever you want to (call Japan if you think the answer will be different).

Point being, I know what I'm talking about, and you are just guessing (if you aren't please give us details on your vast experience removing and rebuilding VQ's )
Old Jun 3, 2001 | 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
The secracy is not about security.. its exactly whats going on here.. 8 pages.. and 5000 people annoying you daily.. as said before.. those who know.. know.. and if you are close to phil you will know his mods.. plus philp has one of the most unique maxima's with the internal parts thats in the car.. now i got him to tell me what they were.. but i keep that secret because he asked for that... I doubt philip wants everyone and their mother using the same mods he has.. his car is unique.. just leave it at that...
hey sprint, kan u at least tell us the E/T? o by the way, wuts dons fastest too?
Old Jun 3, 2001 | 08:29 PM
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hmmmmm yes i'd like some of that crack you are smoking. I bet you 200 bucks that i could do it. just bring me a VQ max and i'll do it for you. I'll hand you all 6 pistons and you can hand me 200 dollars.
Old Jun 3, 2001 | 08:50 PM
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Lets make it $500.

It ain't gonna happen.

If you have a service manual for a 4th /5th Gen Maxima, it may shed some light, but I can tell you, it can't be done. Its not that you're not capable, its just not physically possible.
Old Jun 3, 2001 | 09:10 PM
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you need a BFH. i'm sure you know what that is. you being a mechanic and all.
Old Jun 3, 2001 | 09:21 PM
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awwwwwwwwwwwww what a cute little burnout on your webpage. My buddy's altima does burnouts like that. oh it's an auto. maybe he should get a high performance torque converter that some people sell. NAH, sell the junk auto and buy a 5 spd. i'll show you a real burnout. http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/import/index.html that's our homepage.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/imp...s/maxima_3.jpg this was 1st gear, webcam gizzed out before we could get the real affect.
Old Jun 3, 2001 | 10:29 PM
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Just one thing. Not to flame or butt in but....you do know Don has the fastest max recorded to date as a 12.8 run. He is also doing a 10grand motor build up. Everything Don does himself and is also a VB mod pro! I'm sure you are very capable yourself but i just wanted to say Don does know his stuff.


BTW, who cares about Phil's car. It slow anyways right Phillip?! You might want to stop feeding your car beer 24/7. Oh wait, no, that's you. And you didnt come to meet! Bad Phillip!
Old Jun 3, 2001 | 11:06 PM
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why dont you show us some pictures of your X5 phil?
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by flyry110
awwwwwwwwwwwww what a cute little burnout on your webpage. My buddy's altima does burnouts like that. oh it's an auto. maybe he should get a high performance torque converter that some people sell. NAH, sell the junk auto and buy a 5 spd. i'll show you a real burnout. http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/import/index.html that's our homepage.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/imp...s/maxima_3.jpg this was 1st gear, webcam gizzed out before we could get the real affect.
1. Burnouts do not equate to faster speeds, only less traction.

2. Fastest drag cars in the world are Auto's

3. Don't brag about that site. It's one step away from a gradeschool homework assignment.
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 07:46 AM
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When I do my engine rebuilt, I will take pics. Don't worry everyone
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by NickStam
When I do my engine rebuilt, I will take pics. Don't worry everyone
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 10:14 AM
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A 12.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *GASP* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA geeze! with all this trash talkin i would have thought he'd have been at least in the 11's! screw that! I'll go buy a 4k$ TSI and dump 4-8k$ into turbos and motor and i'll run 10's at least! *sigh* 12.8's. i have to say, i'm VERY disappointed. oh yeah, i know this about the whole burnout thing. i was just um making slicks oh and as far as autos go. The big boys have powerglide 2spds and direct drives. YEAH they're auto, but their HP is also INSANE! Watch the import nationals on ESPN sometime. Most cars there ARE standards. The Toyota truck that runs 8's is a standard. the reason there is no backlash or whatever someone called it about the auto, is because all that HP gets mushed in the slushbox. I'd rather have my HP goin to the ground. God knows i need all i can get. Oh, and our site, dude, it's like a geocities cite. it's just a place to post our car stuff and engine swap ideas. my buddy jared runs it, he's like 16 dude, don't be too harsh! lol
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 10:38 AM
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what, no pictures of the x5 either?
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 10:56 AM
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Well, Don knows enough to run whatever car he wanted. He just chose the Maxima as his platform. Why? Because everyone and their mother has run Mitsus, Hondas, Chevys, Fords, etc..etc.. etc... He chose the Maxima to be different and to use his experiences to help develope new go fast parts for the Maxima. ie.... Don's VB mod(which is a very good mod) Did you know Don developed this by himself??

If Don wanted to run 11's or 10's, he probably could have a long time ago. Get it?? I can dump a RB26dett into a 240z, run a Ford 9" rear end and run 11's or 10's for alot less than the 12 grand your talking about. How about 330 factory hp 4 cylinder into a 2200lb Datsun 510 for alot less than $12k??(not ythe sr20det) It's pretty much all talk until you post your own timeslips don't you think??

As far as autos vs manuals for drag racing. I think all the top fuel guys run autos as you say. But then again you say an 8 sec whatever runs a manual. So what is your point?? Actually I have just seen some drag racers running auto shifting manuals. ie.. electronic shifting mechanisms that act on a convential sytle racing clutch system. Ala paddle style shifting.


Originally posted by flyry110
A 12.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *GASP* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA geeze! with all this trash talkin i would have thought he'd have been at least in the 11's! screw that! I'll go buy a 4k$ TSI and dump 4-8k$ into turbos and motor and i'll run 10's at least! *sigh* 12.8's. i have to say, i'm VERY disappointed. oh yeah, i know this about the whole burnout thing. i was just um making slicks oh and as far as autos go. The big boys have powerglide 2spds and direct drives. YEAH they're auto, but their HP is also INSANE! Watch the import nationals on ESPN sometime. Most cars there ARE standards. The Toyota truck that runs 8's is a standard. the reason there is no backlash or whatever someone called it about the auto, is because all that HP gets mushed in the slushbox. I'd rather have my HP goin to the ground. God knows i need all i can get. Oh, and our site, dude, it's like a geocities cite. it's just a place to post our car stuff and engine swap ideas. my buddy jared runs it, he's like 16 dude, don't be too harsh! lol
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 11:18 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by flyry110
[B]A 12.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *GASP* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA geeze! with all this trash talkin i would have thought he'd have been at least in the 11's! screw that! I'll go buy a 4k$ TSI and dump 4-8k$ into turbos and motor and i'll run 10's at least! *sigh* 12.8's. i have to say, i'm VERY disappointed.



Disappointed? Then you must be suicidal over your 15.3 runs, huh? Its almost 3 seconds slower than me, but keep talking smack you have no intentions of backing up. Again, on paper I can whip up a 7 second car in 3 lines or less, but it takes a little more to do it for real

For the record, I didn't buy this car for performance, I bought it for gas-mileage. Its just kinda ended up here.
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by flyry110
A 12.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *GASP* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA geeze! with all this trash talkin i would have thought he'd have been at least in the 11's!

It's been mostly one sides, and inaccurate at best.

I'll go buy a 4k$ TSI and dump 4-8k$ into turbos and motor and i'll run 10's at least! *sigh* 12.8's. i have to say, i'm VERY disappointed.
So, you're talking about $8k - $12k in upgrades to get in the tens? I don't know how much Don has put into the ORIGINAL engine, do you? How can you make any comparison? Do you actually know how to do this work for the Max?

oh yeah, i know this about the whole burnout thing. i was just um making slicks .
Well, you initially made the statement to downgrade the power of the car making them by comparing the length of the burnout to an Automatic Altima. Now your changing your story. What was the point?

oh and as far as autos go. The big boys have powerglide 2spds and direct drives. YEAH they're auto, but their HP is also INSANE!
Why make an excuse for a proven mechanical practice?

Watch the import nationals on ESPN sometime. Most cars there ARE standards. The Toyota truck that runs 8's is a standard.
Originality is the key to inovation. So, since everyone runs standard, you believe it is the only way? Mechanical efficiency is important when dragging. Auto's can always be tweeked to shift faster than manuals. If the efficiency of the system can be improved, there is a proven advantage in the auto.

Oh, and our site, dude, it's like a geocities cite.
painfully obvious

it's just a place to post our car stuff and engine swap ideas. my buddy jared runs it, he's like 16 dude, don't be too harsh! lol
I wasn't being harsh. I told you not to brag about the site, and that It looked like a gradeschool homework assignment. Your friend is only 16, so I was correct in my assumptions. Tell him that it's a good start. It's as good if not better than some of the sites that other members post. If he wants any professional advise, he can contact me frezny2000@yahoo.com and I'll be glad to answer any questions that he might have.

Sorry for getting off the topic guys.

Later,
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Old Jun 4, 2001 | 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by flyry110
my buddy jared runs it, he's like 16 dude, don't be too harsh! lol
Excuses, excuses... I created Boosted-Maximas.NET when I was 16. Yeah its on Geo****ties, but I'm waiting for someone *cough* Kaleb *cough* to get a little space set up for it.
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 12:29 PM
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why don't you idiots create your own thread to flame and argue in.. all the points about phil's have already been made.. some believe .. some don't.. lets move on
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 12:31 PM
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Which idiots?

Originally posted by SprintMax
why don't you idiots create your own thread to flame and argue in.. all the points about phil's have already been made.. some believe .. some don't.. lets move on
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
why don't you idiots create your own thread to flame and argue in.. all the points about phil's have already been made.. some believe .. some don't.. lets move on
well said.
maximas are maximas
you cna do whatever the hell you want to do with one.
who cares if its ugly, slow, and what not.
ITs your f*cking maxima.
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 12:32 PM
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ahh the smiley to dufuse the speech.. did i forget to use mine.

ok will you gentlemen please stop the pointless arguing..

TIA


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Which idiots?

Old Jun 4, 2001 | 12:39 PM
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yeah, i know how to work on my max. when did i brag about that site? i seemed to miss that. anyway, i didn't mean to get personal on this stuff, but it just ended up that way. lets just all be friends! yeah, i was fairly pleased with a 15.3 stock. i think i can run 14's. this is without engine mods. well, i have my pop charger now, Big deal. . . . N E WAY, lets just all get along.
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by flyry110
yeah, i know how to work on my max. when did i brag about that site? i seemed to miss that. anyway, i didn't mean to get personal on this stuff, but it just ended up that way. lets just all be friends! yeah, i was fairly pleased with a 15.3 stock. i think i can run 14's. this is without engine mods. well, i have my pop charger now, Big deal. . . . N E WAY, lets just all get along.
So, in conclusion, take your own advice.

Try badgering and flaming one of our most respected members again and you won't like the consequences.

That is a promise, not a threat.
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