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Old 09-18-2005 | 02:31 PM
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Totaled 4th gen, happy to be alive.

After a great night of racing i was heading home with my friend to his house to just relax there. Going down an unlit road in very dence fog, i couldnt see much, so i kept the speed pretty low. There was a big hill down and for some reason i could see it going all the way down, so i just let my car glide down it without brakes or gas. All the sudden at the end of the hill, it goes steeply downhill and the road turns to the right. This is what f*cked me over. I pressed the brakes and turned the wheel, which caused my car to start skidding because of the damn walmart tires i have on there. I saw the tree i was gonna hit, and i knew i was screwed. First thing after the impact, i realize that im not paralyzed or anything. I saw a bunch of smoke, so i tried opening my door, but it was jammed, so i think i somehow broke a window or something like that, i really dont remember, and i climbed out of the car, and dragged my friend out of it because he broke his leg and his ankle because he had his seat too far back. I dragged him across the road, he tossed me his cell, and i called 911. The cops came after about 5 minutes(very fast). They took care of my friend and put him in the ambulance. About 15 minutes from the crash, i realized that i cant breathe well like my chest is contracted constantly, so i tell one of the paramedics, and they put me in an ambulance and take me to the hospita. I must say, the car saved my life, if it was a smaller car, i would of been toast because the tree was about a foot from my feet. The whole front of the car was messed up on my side. I hit it with the driver side front bumper, and the car just folded into the tree. I'll post pics later if i ever get them.

I have a few questions now. Does anybody know how much i'm going to get for my 4th gen? Its a 98 GLE with all options besides heated seats, and about 75k on the odometer. Another question. I had a 24 pack of beer in the trunk because i was supposed to be going to a party with my friend, but the party got canceled. I don't drink, but i'm 16. Isn't there some law against possesion of alcohol underage? What do you think the consequences of this crash will be for me legally?


EDIT: my dad went to the junkyard this morning and snapped 2 pics. Here they are.


Old 09-18-2005 | 02:40 PM
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first off racing with walmart tires is a bad thing n ur lucky u didnt get killed during that. but aside from your friend suing u i dont see anyother thing u might be in trouble for. did u get a ticket for the liquor or for the accident? and i think the carrying age of liquor is 18 so if they saw that they might have given u a ticket
Old 09-18-2005 | 02:46 PM
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Have one of your parents say they bought the beer and forgot they left it in your trunk if someone ever say anything about it. I doubt the cops will search the trunk. But have your peeps get the beer.
Old 09-18-2005 | 02:52 PM
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Yea I think its 18 to carry alcohol, if they didn't give you a ticket while you were there for the beer then I don't think you would get one after
Old 09-18-2005 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
first off racing with walmart tires is a bad thing n ur lucky u didnt get killed during that. but aside from your friend suing u i dont see anyother thing u might be in trouble for. did u get a ticket for the liquor or for the accident? and i think the carrying age of liquor is 18 so if they saw that they might have given u a ticket
The races were in a controlled area, not randomly on the street. They were straight line races, pretty short, up to like 70mph maybe. Nobody was put in danger during the race, the surroundings were 100% safe.


And as for the crash, i dont remember what i told the police, i was really worried about my friend becuase he was in a lot of pain. Hopefully i don't get in trouble for the alcohol.
Old 09-18-2005 | 03:16 PM
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Sorry about what happened, if beer was not open and the cops did not see it you should be fine. Do you remember how fast were you going when you lost control and just before you hit the tree? (the reason I’m asking is because I wanna find out how strong Maxima’s body is)
Old 09-18-2005 | 03:33 PM
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I would give you my response to this thread, but I do not think that you would like to hear what I would say to you. Your whole story is flooded with things that are Moronic, and careless.

If you want to know about how much your car is worth, then go to KBB.com, and look it up. the insurance company will pay what they think the car is worth.

As far as the beer, suck it up. If you want to drink underage, (and the looks of it, drink and drive underage after the party is over) then you have to suffer the consequences. Maybe you will get lucky and they will not find it. But I hardly think that they will do anything too serious.

For your sake, I hope you learned something from this accident. You might want to take some driving courses before heading back on the road.
Old 09-18-2005 | 03:37 PM
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Glad you're OK! And don't worry about the Max, you can always get another one because you are alive!
Old 09-18-2005 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
I would give you my response to this thread, but I do not think that you would like to hear what I would say to you. Your whole story is flooded with things that are Moronic, and careless.

If you want to know about how much your car is worth, then go to KBB.com, and look it up. the insurance company will pay what they think the car is worth.

As far as the beer, suck it up. If you want to drink underage, (and the looks of it, drink and drive underage after the party is over) then you have to suffer the consequences. Maybe you will get lucky and they will not find it. But I hardly think that they will do anything too serious.

For your sake, I hope you learned something from this accident. You might want to take some driving courses before heading back on the road.
Yeah ok buddy, except i stated that i don't drink. The party got cancelled so the beer was in my car. My friend and I were supposed to bring it to the party. Please read the whole story first. I couldnt do anything about the turn, i was going under the speed limit, and there are no signs indicating the sharp drop and curve. The owner of the house said there have been many crashes on that turn, but the city still won't put up any signs indicating the turn.
Old 09-18-2005 | 04:01 PM
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Always invest in good tires. You are VERY lucky.

Good thing nothing really bad happened.
Old 09-18-2005 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
As far as the beer, suck it up. If you want to drink underage, (and the looks of it, drink and drive underage after the party is over) then you have to suffer the consequences. Maybe you will get lucky and they will not find it. But I hardly think that they will do anything too serious.
jesus, what's your problem? dude made a mistake, it was careless... but don't jump to conclusions. there's absolutely no reason to think he was drinking, don't be a ****.
Old 09-18-2005 | 04:36 PM
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4x4Max, good to hear you made it out okay. But that does suck about your car. I don't think you would get in trouble for the beer in the trunk unless it broke opne and the police searched your trunk, if it didn't break, they had no reason to be in there looking around without your permission. But, I don't know what the minimum age is for carrying alcohol where you live.



Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
As far as the beer, suck it up. If you want to drink underage, (and the looks of it, drink and drive underage after the party is over) then you have to suffer the consequences. Maybe you will get lucky and they will not find it. But I hardly think that they will do anything too serious.
He gave you indication that he was drinking and driving why would you even suggest that. In fact, he said he doesn't even drink.
Old 09-18-2005 | 04:37 PM
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jesus, what's your problem? dude made a mistake, it was careless... but don't jump to conclusions. there's absolutely no reason to think he was drinking, don't be a ****.
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Old 09-18-2005 | 04:45 PM
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[QUOTE=silvermax2k2]I would give you my response to this thread, but I do not think that you would like to hear what I would say to you. Your whole story is flooded with things that are Moronic, and careless. QUOTE]
i dont remember reading anything moronic or too careless about this accident. they were horrible conditions at the time, and he tried to take it easy. i dont know how slow he was going, but it looks like he coulda be going a tadddd bit slower, thats all. stuff happens. they should really put a sign there or atleast a light pole at the bottom to see the turn. something, anything would help
Old 09-18-2005 | 05:22 PM
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Sorry about what happened, if beer was not open and the cops did not see it you should be fine. Do you remember how fast were you going when you lost control and just before you hit the tree? (the reason I’m asking is because I wanna find out how strong Maxima’s body is)

really, haw fast were you going?
Old 09-18-2005 | 05:25 PM
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Be a real american and sue the city for all its worth for not having a sign there.
Old 09-18-2005 | 05:28 PM
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Holy crap 4x4...glad you're okay! I had an accident in my 98 Maxima when I was 17 and I remember feeling so horrible that my friends were in the car too. Nobody was seriously hurt and they told me it wasn't my fault but I still felt so depressed and guilty for a long time. Try not to let this whole situation get to you too much, I'm sure you're not the type of person to drive irresponsibly.

What do you mean your friend broke his leg cause his seat was too far back? Just wondering cause when I'm a passenger I always have the seat back all the way. Sorry about your accident, your Maxima was really nice too.
Old 09-18-2005 | 06:34 PM
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The fact of the matter is that IF he was doing under the speed limit, then the tree that he hit would not have crushed the car to the point of it only being a foot away from his feet.

The fact of the matter of racing is that racing is dangerous. Period. I don't care how "controlled" or "short" they were.

The fact of the matter is that if you can not see due to rain, snow, fog, or any other element, then you go as slow as you need to go. Remember, it is called a speed LIMIT... not a "Go this fast" sign.

And finally, the fact of the matter is that if he were to have paid more attention to the conditions, and knew how to drive properly then the passenger, the car, and himself would be fine.

Yes, this does suck, but it could have been avoided. My apologies for not seeing the "I do not drink" part of his post, I must have missed it.

Good luck with everything
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Old 09-18-2005 | 06:43 PM
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sue the mayor and get him to put up signs...dude that is screwed but look at the bright side...your alive and thats what matters most...so just dont worry bout the beer...say you lent your car to your parents or friends...
Old 09-18-2005 | 07:04 PM
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Damn glad to se your Ok.
But hold up, what was your speed just before you lost control?
Damn your friend broke his legs, did he have his seatbelt on? The tree was a foot from your feet DAMN , you must have been doing like 60mph plus atleast. What was the speed limit?

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Old 09-18-2005 | 07:17 PM
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Old 09-18-2005 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
The fact of the matter is that IF he was doing under the speed limit, then the tree that he hit would not have crushed the car to the point of it only being a foot away from his feet.

The fact of the matter of racing is that racing is dangerous. Period. I don't care how "controlled" or "short" they were.

The fact of the matter is that if you can not see due to rain, snow, fog, or any other element, then you go as slow as you need to go. Remember, it is called a speed LIMIT... not a "Go this fast" sign.

And finally, the fact of the matter is that if he were to have paid more attention to the conditions, and knew how to drive properly then the passenger, the car, and himself would be fine.

Yes, this does suck, but it could have been avoided. My apologies for not seeing the "I do not drink" part of his post, I must have missed it.

Good luck with everything
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i can totally agree with THIS post.
Old 09-18-2005 | 08:33 PM
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dam bro that sucks, that dude jackiss just totalled his car and i tottaled my car last month but i fixed it up.

once your ok thats all that matters.

my chest was killing me too, and the smoke was from the airbags, sounds like it was a hard hit
Old 09-18-2005 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
The fact of the matter is that IF he was doing under the speed limit, then the tree that he hit would not have crushed the car to the point of it only being a foot away from his feet.
This was my thought when I was reading the story. If you were going as slow as your say you were due to the foggy conditions, the car would not be as damaged as your describe. It just doesn't add up IMO. But I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. Glad to hear you and your friend made it out alive and hopefully you learned some valuable lessons.
Old 09-18-2005 | 10:30 PM
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I would give you my response to this thread, but I do not think that you would like to hear what I would say to you. Your whole story is flooded with things that are Moronic(speaking of, this post), and careless.

If you want to know about how much your car is worth, then go to KBB.com, and look it up. the insurance company will pay what they think the car is worth.

As far as the beer, suck it up. If you want to drink underage, (and the looks of it, drink and drive underage after the party is over) then you have to suffer the consequences. Maybe you will get lucky and they will not find it. But I hardly think that they will do anything too serious.

For your sake, I hope you learned something from this accident. You might want to take some driving courses before heading back on the road.
Glad your alright buddy, could have been alot worse. You should be thankful, which Im sure you are anyway.

Silver, it happens sometimes man. He wasn't drunk or under the influence, and said he was following the laws. He even slowed down to compensate. The kid just lost his Max and your trying to throw him your fire.
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The fact of the matter is that IF he was doing under the speed limit, then the tree that he hit would not have crushed the car to the point of it only being a foot away from his feet. .
You have no idea what the conditions actually were except from what you have heard, so how the hell can you make a fair (and negative) judgement on him? Are you a ****ing e-detective?

Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
The fact of the matter of racing is that racing is dangerous. Period. I don't care how "controlled" or "short" they were. .
Would you rather have him flying down the interstate 3way at 100mph? At least him and his friends chose to take it out of public.

Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
The fact of the matter is that if you can not see due to rain, snow, fog, or any other element, then you go as slow as you need to go. Remember, it is called a speed LIMIT... not a "Go this fast" sign. .
I don't even know what to say to this. He indicated in his post that there has been MANY wrecks on this turn because of how quickly it pops up, reguardless of conditions. I doubt it was foggy when all of those people wrecked.

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And finally, the fact of the matter is that if he were to have paid more attention to the conditions, and knew how to drive properly then the passenger, the car, and himself would be fine..
The fact of matter is man, people like you that take a 180degree look at a situation and try to incorporate there own logic make me sick. I read one post and I felt bad for the kid so I posted what I thought. I scrolled down a little more and see yet another sermon.

The fact of the matter is - you are a dumbass. The way you could have represented your idea's could have been alot better.
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The fact of the matter is that IF he was doing under the speed limit, then the tree that he hit would not have crushed the car to the point of it only being a foot away from his feet. .
He said that he was coasting down a hill because the fog cleared a bit. It's not like he was accelerating and his tires were screaming around a turn. If his story happened the way he described it, then he wasn't doing anything grossly unsafe. Accidents happen. The speed limit could have been 65, and he could have been doing 40. Ever go head on with ANYTHING doing 40mph? Not a pretty picture.

The fact of the matter of racing is that racing is dangerous. Period. I don't care how "controlled" or "short" they were. .
Yeah, you're right. Racing is dangerous, but according to his story, he wasn't racing while the accident occured. He was DRIVING HOME. The only reason he told us he was racing at all before the accident was to give us a little background in the story. If this post was created to describe his racing stories, then I would understand your concern... but it wasn't, so what's the point of even commenting on that? Irrelevant; move on.

What crawled up your *** tonight? Every time someone posts about a car accident they were involved in, there always has to be some self-proclaimed driving expert e-thug, with more skills behind the wheel than god, commenting on how it was all the driver's fault. How old are you, road scholar? Let me scroll up and check. 21? Yeah. I bet you're the king of the road. I bet you're able to avoid all mistakes with less than five years of driving experience under your uber-pretentious belt.

Accidents happen. The real "fact of the matter" is that you need to stop riding this kid so hard, and get over yourself.
Old 09-19-2005 | 12:35 AM
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When you drive in heavy fog, you get extremely disoriented, you lose a sense of your speed because you have no reference points...it's a sickening feeling and it could have happened to anyone...Glad to hear you are okay, but sorry to hear about your max...just kiss the ground you walk on because you are alive.
Old 09-19-2005 | 06:43 AM
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ilya you mother f*cker , thats why u didnt call me sunday so we can chill.....damn thats crazy that car was clean....glad ur okay tho and now we must search u for a 5 spd maxi
Old 09-19-2005 | 07:02 AM
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Thanks guys. My friend's leg surgery went fine, he SHOULD make a full recovery in about 6 months.

To clear some things up: My speed was mainly about 10 under the limit, so it was about 35mph. Then when i coasted down that hill, it increased to ~40mph. I wasn't speeding at any point. Im guessing i hit that tree just a little slower than 40mph because i pressed the brakes right when i saw the sharp turn, but it was too late. The speed might not sound like much, but it was more than enough.

2damax, i don't think the car is even close to the point of being able to repair it, i think the engine block went into the center console.

rome, i dunno if my parents will buy me a car anytime soon because they're shaken up about the whole situation. My insurance is going to double AT LEAST. I'm happy i wasnt in a small sentra that i was gonna buy. I'll never buy a small car. I'm thinking of a big late 90s Cadillac Seville, but thats v8, and insurance is gonna be even higher for that. Of course a 5spd 4th gen is my first choice though.
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Old 09-19-2005 | 11:09 AM
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that looks like it will buff right out! Sorry for the joke, yes car accidents suck i know how it feels someone side swiped me when i had gotten a brand new 2004 altima right into a telephone pole and kept driving. oh well sh*t happens, glad to hear u and your friend will be fine and on the road to recovery soon. your parents will get over the fact of what happened just give'em some time and u will be good to go. be grateful u dont have NJ insurance im paying 3300 a year for liability only. good luck and u better get another maxima!
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Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
The fact of the matter is that IF he was doing under the speed limit, then the tree that he hit would not have crushed the car to the point of it only being a foot away from his feet.

The fact of the matter of racing is that racing is dangerous. Period. I don't care how "controlled" or "short" they were.

The fact of the matter is that if you can not see due to rain, snow, fog, or any other element, then you go as slow as you need to go. Remember, it is called a speed LIMIT... not a "Go this fast" sign.

And finally, the fact of the matter is that if he were to have paid more attention to the conditions, and knew how to drive properly then the passenger, the car, and himself would be fine.
Get bent. Take your self-righteous preaching elsewhere.

The kid is 16. Probably hasn't even been on the road for even a year. What the hell do you expect, and what do you intend to accomplish by kicking and screaming about what he "should have done"? Don't you think he's learned his lesson by now without your trolling? Or did you just need an ego boost from telling a younger driver what's what?

Originally Posted by mchne
Every time someone posts about a car accident they were involved in, there always has to be some self-proclaimed driving expert e-thug, with more skills behind the wheel than god, commenting on how it was all the driver's fault. How old are you, road scholar? Let me scroll up and check. 21? Yeah. I bet you're the king of the road. I bet you're able to avoid all mistakes with less than five years of driving experience under your uber-pretentious belt.

Accidents happen. The real "fact of the matter" is that you need to stop riding this kid so hard, and get over yourself.
Thank you.... couldn't have said it better myself.
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Damn Ilya, sucks about the ride. Good to hear you're alive though. Where exactly was this?
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Glad you ok, take it as a lesson learned

btw, the front of that car = a speed of about 60mph in my opinion....
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Get bent. Take your self-righteous preaching elsewhere.

The kid is 16. Probably hasn't even been on the road for even a year. What the hell do you expect, and what do you intend to accomplish by kicking and screaming about what he "should have done"? Don't you think he's learned his lesson by now without your trolling? Or did you just need an ego boost from telling a younger driver what's what?



Thank you.... couldn't have said it better myself.

I needed the ego boost.
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97-99 4th gens have 5 star front crash ratings
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Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
The fact of the matter is that if you can not see due to rain, snow, fog, or any other element, then you go as slow as you need to go. Remember, it is called a speed LIMIT... not a "Go this fast" sign.
actually silvermax2k2, i was talking with a friend of mine who is a Illinois County sherriff, and he said that if you are going under the speed limit, he could give you a ticket for going to slow, if you are going over he can give you a ticket for speeding. SOOOO the speed limit is ACTUALLY a "Go this fast" sign. so go take your *****y *** outa here,

like doodfood said, he is 16 years old, barely has any driving experience, AND he took all the necessary precautions with the fog, there were no signs stating a sharp turn, and the owner of the property even said that there have been many accidents there.

4x4 good to hear you are ok, your max was slowly growing too! do i hear... 5spd????
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97-99 4th gens have 5 star front crash ratings
Close but not quite...4 stars for the 97-99's. Still pretty good.

I tried to link right to the crash test page but it wouldn't work so you can look it up here: NHTSA

The IIHS gave it an overall rating of "Acceptable" for their offset crash test.



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