Argh when is the max redesign coming?
Argh when is the max redesign coming?
After seeing how much nicer the Alti looks (exterior anyways) compared to the bulky current Max, I can't wait for the next Max redesign. Not that I want a small car, I have always loved the legroom in the max for I'm a tall guy at 6'4 (and hence why I bought my 5th gen).
Anyone know if the redesign well be the '08 model for sure? (that would mean 4 years of the 6th gen, just like 4 of the 5th).
Thanks
Anyone know if the redesign well be the '08 model for sure? (that would mean 4 years of the 6th gen, just like 4 of the 5th).
Thanks
I heard from my neighbor's third cousin's roomate's janitor's babysitter's father who works at Nissan that the next redesign will indeed be in 2008. They are going to move to a coupe design with twin turbos and AWD.
I'm more curious about the new Honda CR-V than the next Maxima. The 2k7 CR-V is under some tight wraps despite going on sale in Oct. this year. The last ones to be made in England and Japan before going to the US production. When I sat in the 2k7 Maxima with the thin sunroof, I thought to myself, what was the engineer thinking? Seriously? Is that supposed to be cool or something? What's cool is a new 2k6 Accord SE auto selling for 19,895, while a 3 yr. old 2k3 sells for 15,800. That's some sick resale. Why doesn't Nissan at least just try to get some resale into their cars? 42k for a 35th Anniv. 350 that will probably sell for 28 next year.....yikes.
The real question is whether there may be a 7th Gen Maxima at all. If they add all the sports-sedan things in the next Max that we on the .org would like ( 300 hp engine, AWD, manual, etc...) you'd wind up with an Infiniti G35 sedan with a lower price and a Nissan Badge. SInce obviously the G35 will still be around for some time, taking the Max upmarket will put it in competition with the recently redesigned Infiniti.So,if the Max is still to be around past 2008, it will remain a FWD , semi-sport/luxury car....and likely , its gonna end up being Nissan's Buick .........
I sooooo hope I'm wrong, though.....
I sooooo hope I'm wrong, though.....
The 6th gens will probably be available longer than the short lived 5th gens...
Maybe a new addition to the Nissan family soon too??
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=440900
Maybe a new addition to the Nissan family soon too??
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=440900
Originally Posted by NYPD-Arnold
They just refreshed the Maxima for 2007, and will keep it the same for 2008. For model year 2009 (Spring-Summer 2008) we will see a new Maxima.
i'm going to assume that for 2010 they will go to a full-time 4wd platform with a twin turbo diesel 1.5L, switch to a 5dr hatchback and add another crazy sunroof... now instead of the mohawk it will be the bi-hawk
Originally Posted by dko
i'm going to assume that for 2010 they will go to a full-time 4wd platform with a twin turbo diesel 1.5L, switch to a 5dr hatchback and add another crazy sunroof... now instead of the mohawk it will be the bi-hawk
You have to consider that the Max is supposed to be up market from an Altima (Stanza). In 2002, they messed this all up (in my mind) when the current Altima was released and was acutally a tiny bit larger than the Max. Then they stretched and widened the Altima in 2004 and called it a Maxima. IMHO, I think they should option down a M35 and make that the next Maxima. They should also offer it with a manual trans (like they threatened to with the M before the actually released it). The G35 is a smaller (yet more well appointed) car than even the Altima.
Nissan,
Make my "down optioned M35" with cloth interior and a 6-speed please!
Thank you
Nissan,
Make my "down optioned M35" with cloth interior and a 6-speed please!
Thank you
Originally Posted by TXT-1
I heard from my neighbor's third cousin's roomate's janitor's babysitter's father who works at Nissan that the next redesign will indeed be in 2008. They are going to move to a coupe design with twin turbos and AWD.
Sorry for the repost, but to clarify my opinion:
350Z = FM chassis
The Maxima has always been touted to be a "4 door Z".
Base the Max on the FM chassis, make it rear wheel drive, like the Z, and finally put some substance behind that promise.
Honda has nothing to compete with the Max. No one does. That's why it really never gets used in sedan comparision tests. Now they put it up against the Avalon? Puh-leeze.
Build the FM Max and they will come.
350Z = FM chassis
The Maxima has always been touted to be a "4 door Z".
Base the Max on the FM chassis, make it rear wheel drive, like the Z, and finally put some substance behind that promise.
Honda has nothing to compete with the Max. No one does. That's why it really never gets used in sedan comparision tests. Now they put it up against the Avalon? Puh-leeze.
Build the FM Max and they will come.
Originally Posted by ManualMaxFan
Sorry for the repost, but to clarify my opinion:
350Z = FM chassis
The Maxima has always been touted to be a "4 door Z".
Base the Max on the FM chassis, make it rear wheel drive, like the Z, and finally put some substance behind that promise.
Honda has nothing to compete with the Max. No one does. That's why it really never gets used in sedan comparision tests. Now they put it up against the Avalon? Puh-leeze.
Build the FM Max and they will come.
350Z = FM chassis
The Maxima has always been touted to be a "4 door Z".
Base the Max on the FM chassis, make it rear wheel drive, like the Z, and finally put some substance behind that promise.
Honda has nothing to compete with the Max. No one does. That's why it really never gets used in sedan comparision tests. Now they put it up against the Avalon? Puh-leeze.
Build the FM Max and they will come.
Honda definitely has nothing to compare, because the TL is clearly smaller and more expensive, and has a manual. Ever look at who's driving a Maxima nowadays? The avg. age has to be in the late 40's early 50's. The $1000+ below invoice price appeals to older people who may have 1-2 kids in college, planning for retirement down the road....build it and they will come is probably what the engineer who designed the moonroof that runs fore to aft was thinking. Ever sit in the Maxima that has it? One just thinks how dumb that feature is.
My parents, who are in their 60's have an '04 SE (no less) with the toaster slot. I suppose that says it all. Good thing they don't put that "4DSC" sticker in the rear quarter windows any more - it would be a lie.
i think after the impalla was redesigned their core buyers decided it was too conservative. which is why there are fat old people driving the newer maximas like grannies. that and the occasional wanksta with an ugly chrome grill and dub plus 4's ridin on like 25mm wheel spacers so the car looks like a giant ATV.
gotta love the toaster slot, tho. the whole car just looks like a fat guy with a sissy mohawk
gotta love the toaster slot, tho. the whole car just looks like a fat guy with a sissy mohawk
Originally Posted by ManualMaxFan
Sorry for the repost, but to clarify my opinion:
350Z = FM chassis
The Maxima has always been touted to be a "4 door Z".
Base the Max on the FM chassis, make it rear wheel drive, like the Z, and finally put some substance behind that promise.
Build the FM Max and they will come.
350Z = FM chassis
The Maxima has always been touted to be a "4 door Z".
Base the Max on the FM chassis, make it rear wheel drive, like the Z, and finally put some substance behind that promise.
Build the FM Max and they will come.
G35 = "4 door Z"
Originally Posted by ManualMaxFan
You have to consider that the Max is supposed to be up market from an Altima (Stanza). In 2002, they messed this all up (in my mind) when the current Altima was released and was acutally a tiny bit larger than the Max. Then they stretched and widened the Altima in 2004 and called it a Maxima. IMHO, I think they should option down a M35 and make that the next Maxima. They should also offer it with a manual trans (like they threatened to with the M before the actually released it). The G35 is a smaller (yet more well appointed) car than even the Altima.
Nissan,
Make my "down optioned M35" with cloth interior and a 6-speed please!
Thank you
Nissan,
Make my "down optioned M35" with cloth interior and a 6-speed please!
Thank you
The Teana that has been spotted several times in this country running around. I really do not understand this. My mind the current 6th Gen is competition to the Avalon. Leave the Altima for the Camry, Accord, etc.
Gotta face the facts, while Nissan still tries to show the sportiness for the Max it will never be like the 4DSC theme with the third gens. While most think the 4th gens/5th gens had the sportiness they really didn't. It died with the 3rd Gen. Maxima got older so did its buyers and it is time to appeal to them. We on this board are a very small percentage compared to the everyday buyer who is just looking for a car to get them from point A to B. NOT how can I make it faster, handle better, look better, etc.
Nissan is just doing what it needs to do to stay in business, even though they always seem to make the wrong decisions. Maybe one day Nissan will get it right.
Originally Posted by 4DRSpeed
I agree with this. The next Maxima (if there will be a 7th gen) in my mind will be Nissan's version of a M35. Maybe a M40 by then who knows. But in any event it won't be as upscale as the M35, but will be the "luxury" car for the Nissan logo.
The Teana that has been spotted several times in this country running around. I really do not understand this. My mind the current 6th Gen is competition to the Avalon. Leave the Altima for the Camry, Accord, etc.
Gotta face the facts, while Nissan still tries to show the sportiness for the Max it will never be like the 4DSC theme with the third gens. While most think the 4th gens/5th gens had the sportiness they really didn't. It died with the 3rd Gen. Maxima got older so did its buyers and it is time to appeal to them. We on this board are a very small percentage compared to the everyday buyer who is just looking for a car to get them from point A to B. NOT how can I make it faster, handle better, look better, etc.
Nissan is just doing what it needs to do to stay in business, even though they always seem to make the wrong decisions. Maybe one day Nissan will get it right.
The Teana that has been spotted several times in this country running around. I really do not understand this. My mind the current 6th Gen is competition to the Avalon. Leave the Altima for the Camry, Accord, etc.
Gotta face the facts, while Nissan still tries to show the sportiness for the Max it will never be like the 4DSC theme with the third gens. While most think the 4th gens/5th gens had the sportiness they really didn't. It died with the 3rd Gen. Maxima got older so did its buyers and it is time to appeal to them. We on this board are a very small percentage compared to the everyday buyer who is just looking for a car to get them from point A to B. NOT how can I make it faster, handle better, look better, etc.
Nissan is just doing what it needs to do to stay in business, even though they always seem to make the wrong decisions. Maybe one day Nissan will get it right.
Nothing against the G35, as its a nice car in its own right, but for Nissan, the fact that the current owners of the 4DSC and 4th/5th Gen don't massively approve of the "Luxo-Max" 6 gen is a good thing. Its good for them because "We" enthusiasts move on to Infiniti's, hence they still get the $$ from the .Orgers and the Grandmas' alike. And for those who would have bought the 1995 Max back in the day , Nissan markets the Altima 3.5 SE where the Max was 10 years ago, so Nissan gets $$ from everyone....
For better or worse, let us remember that Nissan owes allegance to its stockholders, not the small sales potential of the Driving Enthusiast
......
Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
You can rip on the 6th all you want, but it still ****s all over any 3rd or 4th gen in performance stock to stock...in spite of curb weight.
04Blackmaxx, not ripping on the 6th gen at all. Performance wise in a straight line sure. I still think a 3rd gen could take it through the corners though.
I like the 6th Gen it has grown on me, the facelift I think has improved the front end IMO.
But Arctic while we enthusiasts move onto the G, its still not a smart business move to kill Nissan's flagship of 20+ years. No matter if Nissan, Infiniti, Renault are getting money one way or the other from the G or Altima sales.
I agree with Maximafan, Nissan screwed it all up in '02 with the new Altima. While Nissan is working on making the Altima what the Max once was, they either have to build the Teana to be the new Maxima. Or keep the Maxima but differentiate the Altima and the Max. The cars are basically identical, and the prices are about the same. WTF is the point in having the same vehicle??
Once again bad business decision, IMO. You either have one or the other not both. Same price range, basically same size, similar designs, similar interiors. Identical power. Really there is no point in the Maxima right now, but Nissan won't let the flagship go which is very understandable.
The next gen has to be vastly different from the current gen, and not have the look of the new Altima. Design wise that is not hard to do, but mechanical wise is. To keep the costs down, but not tread on Infiniti's front door. It will be interesting to see what Nissan does.
$35K fully loaded 7th gen that has AWD, 300HP??? Talk about taking sales away from the G35.
I like the 6th Gen it has grown on me, the facelift I think has improved the front end IMO.
But Arctic while we enthusiasts move onto the G, its still not a smart business move to kill Nissan's flagship of 20+ years. No matter if Nissan, Infiniti, Renault are getting money one way or the other from the G or Altima sales.
I agree with Maximafan, Nissan screwed it all up in '02 with the new Altima. While Nissan is working on making the Altima what the Max once was, they either have to build the Teana to be the new Maxima. Or keep the Maxima but differentiate the Altima and the Max. The cars are basically identical, and the prices are about the same. WTF is the point in having the same vehicle??
Once again bad business decision, IMO. You either have one or the other not both. Same price range, basically same size, similar designs, similar interiors. Identical power. Really there is no point in the Maxima right now, but Nissan won't let the flagship go which is very understandable.
The next gen has to be vastly different from the current gen, and not have the look of the new Altima. Design wise that is not hard to do, but mechanical wise is. To keep the costs down, but not tread on Infiniti's front door. It will be interesting to see what Nissan does.
$35K fully loaded 7th gen that has AWD, 300HP??? Talk about taking sales away from the G35.
Originally Posted by 4DRSpeed
04Blackmaxx, not ripping on the 6th gen at all. Performance wise in a straight line sure. I still think a 3rd gen could take it through the corners though.
I like the 6th Gen it has grown on me, the facelift I think has improved the front end IMO.
But Arctic while we enthusiasts move onto the G, its still not a smart business move to kill Nissan's flagship of 20+ years. No matter if Nissan, Infiniti, Renault are getting money one way or the other from the G or Altima sales.
I agree with Maximafan, Nissan screwed it all up in '02 with the new Altima. While Nissan is working on making the Altima what the Max once was, they either have to build the Teana to be the new Maxima. Or keep the Maxima but differentiate the Altima and the Max. The cars are basically identical, and the prices are about the same. WTF is the point in having the same vehicle??
Once again bad business decision, IMO. You either have one or the other not both. Same price range, basically same size, similar designs, similar interiors. Identical power. Really there is no point in the Maxima right now, but Nissan won't let the flagship go which is very understandable.
The next gen has to be vastly different from the current gen, and not have the look of the new Altima. Design wise that is not hard to do, but mechanical wise is. To keep the costs down, but not tread on Infiniti's front door. It will be interesting to see what Nissan does.
$35K fully loaded 7th gen that has AWD, 300HP??? Talk about taking sales away from the G35.
I like the 6th Gen it has grown on me, the facelift I think has improved the front end IMO.
But Arctic while we enthusiasts move onto the G, its still not a smart business move to kill Nissan's flagship of 20+ years. No matter if Nissan, Infiniti, Renault are getting money one way or the other from the G or Altima sales.
I agree with Maximafan, Nissan screwed it all up in '02 with the new Altima. While Nissan is working on making the Altima what the Max once was, they either have to build the Teana to be the new Maxima. Or keep the Maxima but differentiate the Altima and the Max. The cars are basically identical, and the prices are about the same. WTF is the point in having the same vehicle??
Once again bad business decision, IMO. You either have one or the other not both. Same price range, basically same size, similar designs, similar interiors. Identical power. Really there is no point in the Maxima right now, but Nissan won't let the flagship go which is very understandable.
The next gen has to be vastly different from the current gen, and not have the look of the new Altima. Design wise that is not hard to do, but mechanical wise is. To keep the costs down, but not tread on Infiniti's front door. It will be interesting to see what Nissan does.
$35K fully loaded 7th gen that has AWD, 300HP??? Talk about taking sales away from the G35.
Ever since the Altima took the Accord and Camry head on, the Max has cemented its position as a niche car. Niche cars don't have to fit a 200,000 car mold like the Camry and the the Accord do. Every car ahs gotten bigger, but somehow Camry and Accord have kept their essence whereas the Max has seceded something to the Altima. I think the MAx should define its own market to differentiate it from the Altima. Granny should look at the Altima or move up to an M35 for a seemless automatic, leather from ear to ear and a hush puppie ride. Take that M35, strip all that sound deadening and triple door seals, down content the electronic goodies, throw in the manual from the G35 and develop a DSG for those who don't like to push a clutch and you've got yourself something that no one else offers, which also holds true to the Maxima icon.
Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
You can rip on the 6th all you want, but it still ****s all over any 3rd or 4th gen in performance stock to stock...in spite of curb weight.

you will never see me in a newer maxima, ever.... if you do, feel free to kill me.
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