DrFuelMax review and real life test! Amazing results.
#81
Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
Haaaaaaaaaa!!! He Signed Off!!!!!!!!
#82
Send your snake oil here if you really wanna subjective test.
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
#83
Hear hear! I think this discussion is finally offically over. Send your device for testing by the EPA, and we'll have the unbaised reports and data we are looking for. If it truely is as great as teh website claims, it will get great results in teh tests, and everyone will buy it, and you'll be rich.
Originally Posted by SHOman
Send your snake oil here if you really wanna subjective test.
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
#84
Originally Posted by tochihashi
Haven't you realized any significant difference in the way your car handles? Doesn't it handle better???
The before mentioned braking performance, that is a stretch...a big ole stretch. And whatever improvements possibly may be made, are negligible.
AND if you did this research with funding from Toyota, and it worked....IT WOULD BE IN TOYOTA CARS, AND YOU WOULDN'T BE HAWKING IT TO A BUNCH OF QUESTIONABLE CHARACTERS ON A MAXIMA BOARD.
#85
SHO,
That is a future step for the product.
The last time I checked, the EPA tests for these types of devices started at around $28,000. While the cost is decent for the type of testing equipment they have at their disposal, the revenue stream isn't there to support this type of testing cost. Thank you.
That is a future step for the product.
The last time I checked, the EPA tests for these types of devices started at around $28,000. While the cost is decent for the type of testing equipment they have at their disposal, the revenue stream isn't there to support this type of testing cost. Thank you.
Originally Posted by SHOman
Send your snake oil here if you really wanna subjective test.
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
#87
Hahaha oh my god. I've reading some of the reports from that epa website.. every single one I read so far failed to meet the claims, and ruslted in 0 improvments and sometimes in worse emissions! Tons of scams out there.
I for one will never buy this product without it going through this testing first.
If I were selling it and it truely worked, I'd send it for testing immediately. What better endorsment could I ask for? I'd have garaunteed sales... somehow I feel that we are not going to see tests for DrFuelMax at the epa anytime soon....
I for one will never buy this product without it going through this testing first.
If I were selling it and it truely worked, I'd send it for testing immediately. What better endorsment could I ask for? I'd have garaunteed sales... somehow I feel that we are not going to see tests for DrFuelMax at the epa anytime soon....
#90
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Maybe I skipped over it. But how will this make my car HANDLE and BRAKE better? Please explain.
You have to buy 2 of them,one to put in the tank,and one to wear around your neck..
#91
They don't need to explain anything. They need to send it to the epa for testing. Anything else is just talk.
But hey, if talk is enough to convince you then I'll sell you this really cool device that you place in your car and it'll improve mpg by 345%. The device may LOOK like a dime, but its absolutely more than that. It is actually a rare earth metal that has been magnetised at our Laboratories such that it alters the molecular structure of the fuel in your car, breaking down hydrocarbons into smaller, more readily combustable molecules. I promise. You will be very pleased with the results. You will rocket through the competition with a 78% increase in HP. You will notice a lot less body sway in tight cornering. Traction will increase two fold. Only $400 for all this! you can paypal me your money at any moment.
j/k, don't paypal money. Well, you can if you want to, I'm a bit short of cash for my emanage ultimate
But hey, if talk is enough to convince you then I'll sell you this really cool device that you place in your car and it'll improve mpg by 345%. The device may LOOK like a dime, but its absolutely more than that. It is actually a rare earth metal that has been magnetised at our Laboratories such that it alters the molecular structure of the fuel in your car, breaking down hydrocarbons into smaller, more readily combustable molecules. I promise. You will be very pleased with the results. You will rocket through the competition with a 78% increase in HP. You will notice a lot less body sway in tight cornering. Traction will increase two fold. Only $400 for all this! you can paypal me your money at any moment.
j/k, don't paypal money. Well, you can if you want to, I'm a bit short of cash for my emanage ultimate
#94
Originally Posted by MrsOleg
because he came to bed with me.... if you don't believe what Oleg says. Don't buy the damn thing. Simple as that. He just found a great product and he thought he'd share. You are all entitled to your opinions but you don't need to sit here and bad mouth everything he's said. If you think it's bull, read the thread, giggle to yourself and move on.
#97
Originally Posted by MrsOleg
No samples were sent to Mroleg to test and write this review. He PAID for the product IN FULL.
Another thing that doesn't help is now his wife is here along with the manufacture, it seems like he has something invested in this product beyond unwavering support. While on the pro-Dr Fuelmax side it seems the more support the better, from the snake oil side it looks about as bad as a 20 year old in a 2000 M5. I'm sure Oleg had only the best intentions posting, but put everything together for the rest of the org, throw in $300 and well quite frankly you'd have a hard enough time advocating a $20 product to this forum.
$300 can get you an aftermarket engine management setup and some dyno time which gets you three things: actual numbers, more power, and better economy (although no one spends $300 to get better mileage). It can also get you a Fidanza... ask anyone who's had or installed one (or four) about the mileage gains (let alone the power).
It would be a much better plan on the manufactures part to give 5-10 samples to members of the forum to test and review. If their product works so well people would pay $300, then it would be a wise move on their part to go this route. After all you have to spend money to make money. Another wise move would be to warn the manufacture that he needs to sponsor the forum if he wishes to advertise here. It is not cheap to run and maintain a database of this size. 67,500 members is a lot of advertising not counting how quickly news spreads across forums on the internet.
#98
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
1) Post up the MSDS for this product asap.
2) If you want to sell shat here, you need to become a paid vendor.
3) I personally think this stuff is bs
2) If you want to sell shat here, you need to become a paid vendor.
3) I personally think this stuff is bs
jackass
#99
I have never mentioned anything about our research being funded through Toyota. However, a great part of our research did indeed take place within their facilities under our discretion. We were lucky in a sense that the regional director for the facility we have utilized in particular, was a close friend who had given us the privilege of the facility use.
Toyota however, does not retain the right to incorporate our technology in whole or in part due to the fact that we posess the patent for this approach of fuel tretment. Our product was made to address the issues that contribute greatly to our deteriorating Ozone layer ( Kyoto Accord ). Since 2001, our product is incorporated as a part of municipal state legislature of the city of "Kamakura" my friend. All city utility vehicles within the its border limits must contain one of our catalysts and bear a seal of approval provided by the city.
If we were to give a single automotive company the right to incorporate our technology into their vehicles, I am sure that that the sales would be great, but it would be greatly missing the point. This catalyst gives the consumers a choice to own a cleaner emission, good fuel economy vehicle without having to purchase a new one.
Now let's suppose you saw a car commercial right this second featuring better car with greater fuel economy, cleaner emissions etc. Would you be willing to trade your car in or to sell it, so that you may acquire it? The answer for most would be no. If you were leasing, that may be an option, but if you already own your car, it is a pretty harsh move.
Double Kei Inc. wanted to make this transition more affordable to environmentally conscientious consumers, by providing a one time application
fuel catalyst at a low price instead of upgrading the cars that they all ready have.
As for the "hawking" accusation; "I resent that." It just so happened that my business partner was the president and founder of <nyc.maximas.org>, and my partner and I have decided to offer this catalyst to a small group of individuals within that site just to break the ice and ease the way. In the case with "mroleg," he has provided us with full payment before going onto his trip. If the catalyst did not work, he would have stated otherwise. He was in no way obligated to post otherwise. We are a legitimate company, and I
stand by my words to protect the integrity of my company. Nobody is telling you to buy. I came to this site and introduced myself here so that I may vouch for "mroleg" and answer a few questions if necessary. If you seek further information, visit our site at <www.drfuelmax.com>, and if you're not interested in the least, then you are not obligated to pursue this matter any further.
Also my friend, it seems that you could use some remedial English yourself, for "handling and engine performance and not interchangeable terms makes for a run-on sentence and does not make sense." I would seriously advise that you think before you make absurd accusations. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
Toyota however, does not retain the right to incorporate our technology in whole or in part due to the fact that we posess the patent for this approach of fuel tretment. Our product was made to address the issues that contribute greatly to our deteriorating Ozone layer ( Kyoto Accord ). Since 2001, our product is incorporated as a part of municipal state legislature of the city of "Kamakura" my friend. All city utility vehicles within the its border limits must contain one of our catalysts and bear a seal of approval provided by the city.
If we were to give a single automotive company the right to incorporate our technology into their vehicles, I am sure that that the sales would be great, but it would be greatly missing the point. This catalyst gives the consumers a choice to own a cleaner emission, good fuel economy vehicle without having to purchase a new one.
Now let's suppose you saw a car commercial right this second featuring better car with greater fuel economy, cleaner emissions etc. Would you be willing to trade your car in or to sell it, so that you may acquire it? The answer for most would be no. If you were leasing, that may be an option, but if you already own your car, it is a pretty harsh move.
Double Kei Inc. wanted to make this transition more affordable to environmentally conscientious consumers, by providing a one time application
fuel catalyst at a low price instead of upgrading the cars that they all ready have.
As for the "hawking" accusation; "I resent that." It just so happened that my business partner was the president and founder of <nyc.maximas.org>, and my partner and I have decided to offer this catalyst to a small group of individuals within that site just to break the ice and ease the way. In the case with "mroleg," he has provided us with full payment before going onto his trip. If the catalyst did not work, he would have stated otherwise. He was in no way obligated to post otherwise. We are a legitimate company, and I
stand by my words to protect the integrity of my company. Nobody is telling you to buy. I came to this site and introduced myself here so that I may vouch for "mroleg" and answer a few questions if necessary. If you seek further information, visit our site at <www.drfuelmax.com>, and if you're not interested in the least, then you are not obligated to pursue this matter any further.
Also my friend, it seems that you could use some remedial English yourself, for "handling and engine performance and not interchangeable terms makes for a run-on sentence and does not make sense." I would seriously advise that you think before you make absurd accusations. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
#100
I say for the last time, we are not in any way attempting to sell our catalyst on this site. Rishi and I are here to vouch for the positive results that "mroleg" had yielded. Also, you are quite entitled to your opinion. Thank you for your 2 cents.
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
1) Post up the MSDS for this product asap.
2) If you want to sell shat here, you need to become a paid vendor.
3) I personally think this stuff is bs
2) If you want to sell shat here, you need to become a paid vendor.
3) I personally think this stuff is bs
#101
Originally Posted by tochihashi
I say for the last time, we are not in any way attempting to sell our catalyst on this site. Rishi and I are here to vouch for the positive results that "mroleg" had yielded. Also, you are quite entitled to your opinion. Thank you for your 2 cents.
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
MrOleg doesn't need anyone to vouch for him. He spent the money to improve his own gas mileage. If the majority of this forum chooses not to endorse your product (just as you have chosen not to get government or third party endorsements) then it is those member's who are losing out.
#102
Originally Posted by MrGone
Another thing that doesn't help is now his wife is here along with the manufacture, it seems like he has something invested in this product beyond unwavering support. While on the pro-Dr Fuelmax side it seems the more support the better, from the snake oil side it looks about as bad as a 20 year old in a 2000 M5. I'm sure Oleg had only the best intentions posting, but put everything together for the rest of the org, throw in $300 and well quite frankly you'd have a hard enough time advocating a $20 product to this forum.
#103
For the 2nd time, post the Material Safety Data Sheet. You should have one for public viewing
Originally Posted by tochihashi
I say for the last time, we are not in any way attempting to sell our catalyst on this site. Rishi and I are here to vouch for the positive results that "mroleg" had yielded. Also, you are quite entitled to your opinion. Thank you for your 2 cents.
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
#105
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Originally Posted by MrsOleg
I'm just on here because my husband simply wanted to let you all know about something he bought that he thought others might be interested in, and you all acuse him of a scam. He has nothing to gain if any of you buy this product.
it would appear he is his business partner and the whole family kicks in for support. odd isn't it
#106
Thank for your post mrgone. You are a man of true courtesy. However, I must let the people of this site know that neither I, or Double Kei Enterprises Inc. in its entirety plan to promote or sell anything here. My partner "Packetattack," "mrsoleg," "Chinox," and I are merely here to vouch for the claims that were made by "mroleg." I was here answering questions in good faith to anyone who may have inquiries pertaining to the claims posted by "mroleg."
If anyone should have any further inquiries pertaining to our product, then I suggest that they foward their inquiries to <customercare@drfuelmax> and that's that. Thank you for your post.
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturer of Dr. Fuelmax
If anyone should have any further inquiries pertaining to our product, then I suggest that they foward their inquiries to <customercare@drfuelmax> and that's that. Thank you for your post.
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturer of Dr. Fuelmax
Originally Posted by MrGone
That's great and all but lets face it, he has 180 posts - tack on two zeros to that with posts helping people fix their cars and people may not be so quick to shoot down what appears to be just another snake oil.
Another thing that doesn't help is now his wife is here along with the manufacture, it seems like he has something invested in this product beyond unwavering support. While on the pro-Dr Fuelmax side it seems the more support the better, from the snake oil side it looks about as bad as a 20 year old in a 2000 M5. I'm sure Oleg had only the best intentions posting, but put everything together for the rest of the org, throw in $300 and well quite frankly you'd have a hard enough time advocating a $20 product to this forum.
$300 can get you an aftermarket engine management setup and some dyno time which gets you three things: actual numbers, more power, and better economy (although no one spends $300 to get better mileage). It can also get you a Fidanza... ask anyone who's had or installed one (or four) about the mileage gains (let alone the power).
It would be a much better plan on the manufactures part to give 5-10 samples to members of the forum to test and review. If their product works so well people would pay $300, then it would be a wise move on their part to go this route. After all you have to spend money to make money. Another wise move would be to warn the manufacture that he needs to sponsor the forum if he wishes to advertise here. It is not cheap to run and maintain a database of this size. 67,500 members is a lot of advertising not counting how quickly news spreads across forums on the internet.
Another thing that doesn't help is now his wife is here along with the manufacture, it seems like he has something invested in this product beyond unwavering support. While on the pro-Dr Fuelmax side it seems the more support the better, from the snake oil side it looks about as bad as a 20 year old in a 2000 M5. I'm sure Oleg had only the best intentions posting, but put everything together for the rest of the org, throw in $300 and well quite frankly you'd have a hard enough time advocating a $20 product to this forum.
$300 can get you an aftermarket engine management setup and some dyno time which gets you three things: actual numbers, more power, and better economy (although no one spends $300 to get better mileage). It can also get you a Fidanza... ask anyone who's had or installed one (or four) about the mileage gains (let alone the power).
It would be a much better plan on the manufactures part to give 5-10 samples to members of the forum to test and review. If their product works so well people would pay $300, then it would be a wise move on their part to go this route. After all you have to spend money to make money. Another wise move would be to warn the manufacture that he needs to sponsor the forum if he wishes to advertise here. It is not cheap to run and maintain a database of this size. 67,500 members is a lot of advertising not counting how quickly news spreads across forums on the internet.
#108
Thanks for answering the brakeing question, not sure i agree, but whatever
Here are some other questions:
1) What is the patent #, i want to see the patent for this product, please excuse my distrust, but i doubt one exists.
2)What is the return policy, most things i trust allow me to return it within a certian period if i am not happy. Will this?
3) Why not get the EPA test? $28,000 or whatever it costs is chump change to you guys, after all you sold over 1,000,000 in japan meaning you have around $300,000,000, minus certain costs im sure, but still thats a TON of money...unless you didnt sell 1 million of them, again im quite skeptical of this...
Thank you for your time
Here are some other questions:
1) What is the patent #, i want to see the patent for this product, please excuse my distrust, but i doubt one exists.
2)What is the return policy, most things i trust allow me to return it within a certian period if i am not happy. Will this?
3) Why not get the EPA test? $28,000 or whatever it costs is chump change to you guys, after all you sold over 1,000,000 in japan meaning you have around $300,000,000, minus certain costs im sure, but still thats a TON of money...unless you didnt sell 1 million of them, again im quite skeptical of this...
Thank you for your time
#109
To All Viewers,
We at Double Kei Enterprise Inc. are not in any way promoting sales of Dr. Fuelmax within this site. Double Kei Enterprises Inc. was here to support and vouch for the validity of the recent post made by "mroleg" and nothing more. I hope that all of you can just be happy for him, instead of making steadfast judgements about his integrity.
If anyone should have any further questions or opinions, then we kindly ask that you foward them to <customercare@drfuelmax.com> and not to post further inquiries via this thread. Thank you very much for visiting and contributing to this thread.
We at Double Kei Enterprise Inc. are not in any way promoting sales of Dr. Fuelmax within this site. Double Kei Enterprises Inc. was here to support and vouch for the validity of the recent post made by "mroleg" and nothing more. I hope that all of you can just be happy for him, instead of making steadfast judgements about his integrity.
If anyone should have any further questions or opinions, then we kindly ask that you foward them to <customercare@drfuelmax.com> and not to post further inquiries via this thread. Thank you very much for visiting and contributing to this thread.
#110
Originally Posted by MrsOleg
I'm just on here because my husband simply wanted to let you all know about something he bought that he thought others might be interested in, and you all acuse him of a scam. He has nothing to gain if any of you buy this product.
Actually after doing the math, your trip down averaged 18.93mpg but your trip home netted 28.21mpg. I have to ask, did the same person drive both ways? I've managed 26.1mpg around Mount Rainier (6000' elevation change) in a 740i packed to 5100lbs with a 4.4L V8 and the AC on. 17mpg towing a Maxima from Portland, Oregon to Seattle, Washington in a 5.2L Durango. 19mpg out of a Maxima on a highway trip means your car needs to go in for service, or you'll be posting bail soon.
#113
Originally Posted by MrGone
I know and my advice is to cut bait and run. You and your husband have done everything you can and wanted to do, informed people of your results. Don't be insulted by 99.9% of the forum being skeptical. You gained ~30% increase in fuel economy, be happy with that and laugh at those who are missing out.
Actually after doing the math, your trip down averaged 18.93mpg but your trip home netted 28.21mpg. I have to ask, did the same person drive both ways? I've managed 26.1mpg around Mount Rainier (6000' elevation change) in a 740i packed to 5100lbs with a 4.4L V8 and the AC on. 17mpg towing a Maxima from Portland, Oregon to Seattle, Washington in a 5.2L Durango. 19mpg out of a Maxima on a highway trip means your car needs to go in for service, or you'll be posting bail soon.
Actually after doing the math, your trip down averaged 18.93mpg but your trip home netted 28.21mpg. I have to ask, did the same person drive both ways? I've managed 26.1mpg around Mount Rainier (6000' elevation change) in a 740i packed to 5100lbs with a 4.4L V8 and the AC on. 17mpg towing a Maxima from Portland, Oregon to Seattle, Washington in a 5.2L Durango. 19mpg out of a Maxima on a highway trip means your car needs to go in for service, or you'll be posting bail soon.
"You and your husband have done everything you can and wanted to do, informed people of your results. Don't be insulted by 99.9% of the forum being skeptical. You gained ~30% increase in fuel economy, be happy with that and laugh at those who are missing out."
you're absolutely right about that. I just thought I'd post my thoughts on the situation. I thought it very rude the way most people were responding. I could see being skeptical, I still am and I've seen it work for us, but complain to the company, not the guy who wants to tell you about it. And it probably isn't for most people. I doubt most people drive as much as we do.
#116
To All Viewers,
I must remind all viewers of this thread that it is not the intention of Double Kei Inc. to promote or sell anything on this thread. We were merely here to vouch for "mroleg" in his findings. Unfortunately, we are no longer answering questions on this thread. If anyone should have any further questions in regards to Dr. Fuelmax or issues pertaining to this thread, please direct your questions to <customercare@drfuelmax.com>. Thank you all for your comments and opinions.
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
I must remind all viewers of this thread that it is not the intention of Double Kei Inc. to promote or sell anything on this thread. We were merely here to vouch for "mroleg" in his findings. Unfortunately, we are no longer answering questions on this thread. If anyone should have any further questions in regards to Dr. Fuelmax or issues pertaining to this thread, please direct your questions to <customercare@drfuelmax.com>. Thank you all for your comments and opinions.
Sincerely,
Masazumi Kudo
President-Double Kei Enterprises Inc.
Manufacturers of Dr. Fuelmax
#119
EPA ratings on a 2005 maxima: Not quite sure where these gains are
EPA city / highway mpg
6-speed manual 20/29
5-speed automatic 20/28
EPA city / highway mpg
6-speed manual 20/29
5-speed automatic 20/28
Originally Posted by MrGone
Actually after doing the math, your trip down averaged 18.93mpg but your trip home netted 28.21mpg. I have to ask, did the same person drive both ways? I've managed 26.1mpg around Mount Rainier (6000' elevation change) in a 740i packed to 5100lbs with a 4.4L V8 and the AC on. 17mpg towing a Maxima from Portland, Oregon to Seattle, Washington in a 5.2L Durango. 19mpg out of a Maxima on a highway trip means your car needs to go in for service, or you'll be posting bail soon.
#120
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Originally Posted by MrsOleg
in a scam, of course not. Oleg has nothing to do with scamming anyone. He just wanted to let you know what he thought about the product. That's all.
it is clear to everyone this was prearranged.