We wait for reliable results then...

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Nope no GD for this, it will be in the RO forum, aka rip off...

 

These guys sure are slow to respond to emails...

 

I think the are trying to figure out how the hell a torque converter can create better braking . I have a 5spd, will it help me brake better? Or oleg is realizing that his mpg could have been effected by the two hours of traffic they got stuck in on the way there . Oh it had to be the tampon causing the rise in mpg. sitting in traffic has no effect on my gas mileage. What the hell is wrong with people. Hopefully they will actually send this thing to MrGone like they said they would.

 

What a load of crap! First off, a catalyist needs to have the majority of the fuel flow over it to be effective. Just sitting in the bottom of the tank will not allow for a vast enough amount of gas to flow over the catalytic surface. Secondly, yeah, sure, most gasolines have additives in them. They are there to keep your injectors cleaned. If the catalyst actually does what it says it should, these cleaning agents will be broken down and will not clean the injectors. Over time, larger pieces of debris will clog the injectors and cost more money than anything this POS can save you. Thirdly, without independant, third party testing done in the uS with documentation somewhere besides your website, nobody on this board will believe your claims. 20-30% increases are a little far-fetched. I would think a 2-3% increase might be feasable IF the catalyst touched all of the gasoline, but as I stated above, the gains you would get by "purifying" the gas will not justify the losses you get by killing your fuel injectors.

 

Why do you think it will brake down fuel additives? (I suck in chemistry, so be gentle. )

 

BTW, people, I know MrOleg in person and I am sure that he has reposted what has really happened. It is possible that other factors affected his test, but I can assure you that the numbers he has posted in the first post are real.

 

I'm just going by his claims on his site. It won't really break down crap. In fact, it won't do crap.

 

Okay I'll ask you then:

1) How do you account for the dismal mileage on the 1st leg?
2) How does matching the rated epa estimated mileage prove that this product works? Shouldn't it be 30% higher than the epa rating?

 

oh, I haven't read that stuff yet.

 

I can't say whether this thing really works or not, as I said before, other factors could have affected his results. The point I was trying to make is that he is reposting what he has noticed and he did not make anything up.

Also, note that the numbers that he reported are not reuler MPGs that we are used to see. He is just stating how many gallons of fuel have been burned during the trip.

I think I shuld also say that, as far as I know, he travels to NC every other week, so I'm pretty sure that he knows how much gas he usaully needs to get there.

 

Then he needs to post those numbers...

 

We need to come up with kewl nickname for this device.

Like robo-tampon, polish pleasure missile (no offense intended to our polish maxima brethren), whatever.

You tend to see a rise in the offering of these devices when gas prices spike up.

As far as a decent "test" , MrOleg's observations are anything but that.

If it was me, i'd test as so. The main objective being to remove as many variables that could effect your results, with KISS a second objective.

1) disconnect my gas tank. Run from a small auxilary tank, 1 gallon, 1 quart, whatever.
2) Run the test without the tampon, with my car immobilized, wheels on some sort of rollers, like when you dyno test. Get the car up to 55, see how many miles you go.
3) Repeat test with the tampon, compare miles with the initial test.

Clean the aux gas tank and do this several times.

This thread has been very entertaining so far.

Ok no more fun, back to work for me...

 

No email responce. What a bunch of losers. Which gov agency do we report this **** to?

 

now im all with you on that if this is a scam, but lets hold off judgment until we get some test data. I like telling friends that the people on maxima.org are of a higher quality then most forums...

 

Which is why we don't have 10 people already ordering this thing

 

hope those new yorker boys dont see that

 

I don't doubt it. Question is does this thing do squat?

Which can be converted to MPG. Your point?

You would think he would have more than ONE test done. Or at LEAST wait until 2-3 tests were done.

 

According to the FTC...

"Product Complaints and Refunds
If you're dissatisfied with a gas-saving product, contact the manufacturer and ask for a refund. Most companies offer money-back guarantees. Contact the company, even if the guarantee period has expired.

If you're not satisfied with the company's response, contact your local or state consumer protection agency or the Better Business Bureau."

Found here.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm

 

Better Buisness Bereau, and IRS...no tax=bad day, and none of them payed tax as far as i can see

 

I havnt bought the product so I guess I can't complain. I guess Metal Max can.

 

We'll also see what happens with the NYCMaxima guys... well we know Oleg was happy with his, that leaves 9 others.

 

I have a feeling they got paid to use and advertise...

 

just read all 9 pages. what a bunch of crap. these liars come in here and think they can wave all this over our heads as we willingly open our checkbooks.

did MrGone get the sample yet? the only thing i would be interested in would be his tests and findings.

 

Before you call people liars, why dont you research and actually talk to the people who tested the product out.

No one has obligated you to buy the product, if the idea doesnt appeal to you then dont buy it, all I know is that someone with a max came in here sharing his experience with the rest of the org, but some people cant be smart about it!!

 

I'm smart about it, alright. I'm investing the $300 into 6 fill-ups.

 

Yea, and i spent it on hookers, much better than a metal tampon if u ask me

 

Dear Genius, we are trying to save people money so they don't get scammed. These guys can't even answer the questions we ask.

How does it "clean" all the fuel? The cheaper inline ones I see actually do that. This thing just sits in a 18.5 gallon tank and you expect it to do something?

 

I think they should start by adjusting some of their claims. Like engine braking, yes this may in fact help if it work as described but it will not help stop your car in the same fashion that we all think of, i.e. hitting the brakes.

 

Why are the pictures of their "facility" and the approval "sticker" one of the worst and blurriest pictures known to mankind? ie... illegible.......

 

They need to pull it off the market and stop scamming people.
He stated like 20 times to email him questions and yet I don't get a response.

 

There is a small thread on this over at Bob is the Oil Guy. Here are a couple of replies:

 

I am gonna email them that.

I told them I am going to report them to the BBB

 

I think this might be an item of translation gone wrong. The VESPR model of an atom will account for all electrons in valence shells S, P, D, and F. According to that model, the electron shells for carbon would break down into:

1s2
2s2 2p6
3s2 (accounting for all 12 electrons)

...even if such is the case, the 'D' shell could not be accounted for as you don't get into the 'D' valence shell until some base metals.

Just my $0.02

 

Dear god man I didn't go to UK to use my brain lol

 

OMG!!! My head is starting to spin out of control! It's like drug flash-backs, but in chemistry! Ouch!

 

No response to me either....


BITOG sold me on it being crap

 

Another thing that was over looked:

Trip to NC

602/31.8 = 18.9308176101 MPG

Trip back to NY

598/21.2 = 28.2075471698 MPG

The percent change from 18.9308176101 to 28.2075471698 is 49.0033222588% not the 30% as stated, making this claim even more absurd.

 

How's this thread being received on the NY forums??

 

I read the threads over there about this.

General consensus = the big .org is full of insensitive idiots who don't understand.