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2002 Altima runs 14.4 @ 100 MPH, 0-60 in 5.9

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Old Oct 6, 2001 | 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
That's just about as fast as the RSX type S. Niceee... A VQ 5spd would need nearly every bolt on mod to run that well Imagine the Alty with bolt ons.. Low 13s N/A? hehehheheh,
Alty should be faster than an RSX-S. Road and Track tested both in a comparison test this month and got these numbers:

Altima:
0-60 / 6.3 sec
1/4-mile / 14.8 sec @ 96.5 mph

RSX-S:
0-60 / 6.7 sec
1/4-mile / 15.2 sec @ 92.7 mph
Old Oct 6, 2001 | 10:01 PM
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ok, sorry my bad. so 46 lbs but doens't the max come with more options standard included in that weight so mose 3.5SE altimas will run heavier will options. but 50lbs none the less. i still think the max will eeek it by .1
The Altima is 1 lb heavier than the Max per www.nissannews.com
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Old Oct 6, 2001 | 10:25 PM
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How much exactly are we talking about one of these things anyway? 14.xxx might sound great but if we gotta fork over $25K I'll be thinkin twice to see if its worth it. Further, is the resale on this one gonna be any better then most Nissan cars are now?
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 12:49 AM
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Dang thats one fast nissan.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


The Altima is 1 lb heavier than the Max per www.nissannews.com
that's what i thought and said too but if you look at the www.nissandriven.com website it gives the numbers i refered too. either way they weight almost the same. a me driving the altima and ethan driving the new maxima since he's a tall lanky bish would equal it out. under 50lbs in my book is the same. that's like a few gallons of gas. if those are wet weights maybe the max holds more gas.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 07:58 AM
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Those are some damn good #'s! It looks like the Altima did the exact oppisite of what the Q45 was supposed to do. Meaning that, hte Q was suppose to run 0-60= 5.9 but in most of the test it could not beat 6.5, the Altima did just oppisite, Nissan claimed 0-60=6.5 and it did 5.9! .

BTW thanks for the great info
actually when car and driver did a comparo of luxo's they got the Q to 6.0 sec 0-60


and the altima is friggin fast and the max will be faster
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 08:51 AM
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that's what i thought and said too but if you look at the www.nissandriven.com website it gives the numbers i refered too. either way they weight almost the same. a me driving the altima and ethan driving the new maxima since he's a tall lanky bish would equal it out. under 50lbs in my book is the same. that's like a few gallons of gas. if those are wet weights maybe the max holds more gas.
www.nissandriven.com is not as reliable as nissannews.com. nissannews is more of a detail site on specs, etc.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 10:47 AM
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Old Oct 7, 2001 | 12:03 PM
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Dang...i'm just happy on what's happening to nissan cars these days...they're getting faster...hahah! Can't wait to see how fast the next model maxima will be. Hopefully it won't look like that one everyone posted about...it had a flat back and was just plain ugly. Hopefully, by the time im done with my payments(3 years), i'll be able to trade in for a newer max.
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Old Oct 7, 2001 | 01:01 PM
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maximas are slow
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Old Oct 7, 2001 | 01:51 PM
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It's possible. Please site an example of accuracy.

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


www.nissandriven.com is not as reliable as nissannews.com. nissannews is more of a detail site on specs, etc.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 01:54 PM
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It's nice to see the fastest stock Nissan on my home track and on my own public television station.

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Old Oct 7, 2001 | 02:00 PM
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actually when car and driver did a comparo of luxo's they got the Q to 6.0 sec 0-60


and the altima is friggin fast and the max will be faster
Ohh, I know about that, thats why I said{quote} the Q was suppose to run 0-60= 5.9 but in "most" of the test it could not beat 6.5.
Key word "most"

Steve, all right there stumpy .

Russ, The #'s on nissannews.com are old, they were posted up before production, most likely they changed weigh slitely and now the new "exact" weights are posted on nissandriven.com. Nissannews, is more of a prieview site then nissandriven. BTW nissannews had also listed the 02 max as 260 HP.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 02:24 PM
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Thank you! I've been trying to tell Russ that.

Originally posted by emax95


Ohh, I know about that, thats why I said{quote} the Q was suppose to run 0-60= 5.9 but in "most" of the test it could not beat 6.5.
Key word "most"

Steve, all right there stumpy .

Russ, The #'s on nissannews.com are old, they were posted up before production, most likely they changed weigh slitely and now the new "exact" weights are posted on nissandriven.com. Nissannews, is more of a prieview site then nissandriven. BTW nissannews had also listed the 02 max as 260 HP.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 02:43 PM
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A difference of 30 lb is almost like taking the spare out of the trunk no?!

BTW, I'm gonna eat rice cakes t'ill I get my max just to make shure that I'm 30 lb "underwheight"! lol!
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by emax95


Ohh, I know about that, thats why I said{quote} the Q was suppose to run 0-60= 5.9 but in "most" of the test it could not beat 6.5.
Key word "most"

Steve, all right there stumpy .

Russ, The #'s on nissannews.com are old, they were posted up before production, most likely they changed weigh slitely and now the new "exact" weights are posted on nissandriven.com. Nissannews, is more of a prieview site then nissandriven. BTW nissannews had also listed the 02 max as 260 HP.
i might be stumpy but you wanna fight?
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88


i might be stumpy but you wanna fight?
I whould kick your ****! 2nd degree white belt over here .
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by emax95


I whould kick your ****! 2nd degree white belt over here .
i'm a third degree they gave me a yellow stripe now.
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Old Oct 7, 2001 | 04:33 PM
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Re: hmmm

Originally posted by pmar
have to admit, that makes a person drool. Is it the fastest Nissan to date? What did the 300ZX twin do?

Any chance Nissan will improve the interior for 2003 and maybe do the 6-spd for Altima? I doubt the Max can do these numbers because 15 hp has to carry more weight I think.
isnt horsepower the power to weight ratio or something like that? so 255 HP in a 2000 lb car and 255 HP in a 3000 lb car should have similar specs (assuming that the cars are exactly the same except for the weight which is only hypothetical)thats just what i always thought, i definitely could be mistaken. but does that make sense?
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 08:08 PM
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Re: Re: hmmm

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isnt horsepower the power to weight ratio or something like that? so 255 HP in a 2000 lb car and 255 HP in a 3000 lb car should have similar specs (assuming that the cars are exactly the same except for the weight which is only hypothetical)thats just what i always thought, i definitely could be mistaken. but does that make sense?
you post doesn't make sense. 100lbs more weight=about 10hp lost lighter cars are way faster.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 08:25 PM
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6 speed slower!?

WTF???

I got this on altimas.net:

luv2race wrote:
I think the biggest thing to look for is not the horsepower but the torque of Altima vs. Maxima. This is what you will notice in 0-60 times. By the way all the Nissan dealers here in Phoenix just had their ride and drive, everyone has been telling me that the 5 spd Altima beat the 6 spd Maxima they had. Don't know if its true, but I'd like to think so since I have a 5 spd 3.5.

http://www.altimas.net/forum/showthr...&threadid=6686

I hope they don't know how to drive a 6 speed OR that they are lying to make the sales more worth it.

Damn car salesman!
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 08:28 PM
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Re: 6 speed slower!?

Originally posted by Amazing2
WTF???

I got this on altimas.net:

luv2race wrote:
I think the biggest thing to look for is not the horsepower but the torque of Altima vs. Maxima. This is what you will notice in 0-60 times. By the way all the Nissan dealers here in Phoenix just had their ride and drive, everyone has been telling me that the 5 spd Altima beat the 6 spd Maxima they had. Don't know if its true, but I'd like to think so since I have a 5 spd 3.5.

http://www.altimas.net/forum/showthr...&threadid=6686

I hope they don't know how to drive a 6 speed OR that they are lying to make the sales more worth it.

Damn car salesman!
the 6-spds aren't out yet so no one knows but it can only be faster. or at least equal.
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I drove the 2K2 Max auto and Alty 3.5SE auto, and the Altima didnt feel nearly as fast as the Max. The Altima felt exactly as smooth, fast, quiet as a 4th auto, while the Maxima felt like a hot rod, torque monster. So strictly judging by that, I'd now say the 6 spd Maxima definitely has to be faster than the Altima. What I cant believe is if it is in fact faster, that basically means the Maxima 6 spd will eat up or keep up with a GS 430, 540i, E430 and the likes, which is pretty incredible.
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What I cant believe is if it is in fact faster, that basically means the Maxima 6 spd will eat up or keep up with a GS 430, 540i, E430 and the likes, which is pretty incredible.
We can use some conductive conclusion to estimate how fast the new Max will be!

(assuming we are talking about the 2002 Altima and Maxima manual)



Since Consumer Guide tested the new Maxima automatic at 7.0second without breaking in, therefore, the Maxima automatic will do a mid 6 second broken in.

Since manual is faster than automatic, therefore, the Maxima manual will do a low 6 second with manual.

However, with a 6 speed and Helical limited slip differential, 0-60 should be up by a notch, bumping it to high 5.

The Altima is just as fast as GS400 and E430, therefore, if the Max is faster than the Altima, it will be faster than the GS400 and E430.


Therefore, the new Maxima will be as fast as GS400, if not faster.
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Originally posted by LoveSick


We can use some conductive conclusion to estimate how fast the new Max will be!

(assuming we are talking about the 2002 Altima and Maxima manual)



Since Consumer Guide tested the new Maxima automatic at 7.0second without breaking in, therefore, the Maxima automatic will do a mid 6 second broken in.

Since manual is faster than automatic, therefore, the Maxima manual will do a low 6 second with manual.

However, with a 6 speed and Helical limited slip differential, 0-60 should be up by a notch, bumping it to high 5.

The Altima is just as fast as GS400 and E430, therefore, if the Max is faster than the Altima, it will be faster than the GS400 and E430.


Therefore, the new Maxima will be as fast as GS400, if not faster.
maybe, we'll just have to wait and see. and i'm waiting very anxiously.
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Re: 6 speed slower!?

6-speed VS 5-speed from a 6-speed Corvette owner's point of view:

You may what to take into account that a 6-speed manuel may have more drivetrain loss than a 5-speed manuel, as in C5 land MN6 only dyno a couple percentages high than the Automatic aviable in corvettes...GM rates them as 15% loss for MN6s and 18% for A4s. Often, they acutally dyno very close to each other. Of course, the GM A4 is a very effent Transmission, which could account for some of the small difference.

As far as the Maxima vs. Altima transmissions, the Altima has lower 1st and 2nd gears..... 3rd and 4th are lower in the Max.... Acutally 5th is to, but insignificatly.. .800 to .809. The lower 1/2 will be a benefit for the Altima 5-sp... and 3rd gear may not be such a bad thing, espicaly if the Altima is able to finish the quarter in 3rd, and the Max may requre a 3-4 shift in the quarter, which will slow down ETs.
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do these fast times make the car not ugly at a second glance?
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The text of the Motorweek review is now online.

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Sorry, but you are not fully correct. The Maxima will not see the decrease in drivetrain loss from a 5spd to a 6spd like the C5 does. Remember the C5 design of drivetrain makes it LOOSE that much more for the 6spd. The FBODYs do not lose near as much compared to your car. You should know this, but so far every post you have done is not correct.

The maxima will loose the same amount of loss like others, 12-15%. The vette looses more like 18%

Originally posted by c5hardtop
6-speed VS 5-speed from a 6-speed Corvette owner's point of view:

You may what to take into account that a 6-speed manuel may have more drivetrain loss than a 5-speed manuel, as in C5 land MN6 only dyno a couple percentages high than the Automatic aviable in corvettes...GM rates them as 15% loss for MN6s and 18% for A4s. Often, they acutally dyno very close to each other. Of course, the GM A4 is a very effent Transmission, which could account for some of the small difference.

As far as the Maxima vs. Altima transmissions, the Altima has lower 1st and 2nd gears..... 3rd and 4th are lower in the Max.... Acutally 5th is to, but insignificatly.. .800 to .809. The lower 1/2 will be a benefit for the Altima 5-sp... and 3rd gear may not be such a bad thing, espicaly if the Altima is able to finish the quarter in 3rd, and the Max may requre a 3-4 shift in the quarter, which will slow down ETs.
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Sorry, but you are not fully correct. The Maxima will not see the decrease in drivetrain loss from a 5spd to a 6spd like the C5 does. Remember the C5 design of drivetrain makes it LOOSE that much more for the 6spd. The FBODYs do not lose near as much compared to your car. You should know this, but so far every post you have done is not correct.

The maxima will loose the same amount of loss like others, 12-15%. The vette looses more like 18%

I was compairing the difference in drivetrain loss between a A4 and a MN6 in Corvette. You will notice only a small difference between the two maybe only 1-2% difference, yet in say a 01 Maxima, the difference in HP between a Automatic and 5-speed is much more... to the tune of 5% from what I understand. Engineers have found that using a 6speed resulting in a slighty higher drivetrain loss, as the extra gear ats weight and friction. Fbodys have the same gap... you will find that 6-speed fbodys hardly put out any more hp than Automatic Fbodys... considering the differences found in other makes with Autos vs 5-speeds.
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So...C5 man...which are you getting?

PS-why are people so cought up in .1 here .1 there? I mean...anything in the low 15's let alone 14's feels fast...so who cares if runs 14.4 .6 or .8?

Mike S.
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Originally posted by Mike S.
So...C5 man...which are you getting?

PS-why are people so cought up in .1 here .1 there? I mean...anything in the low 15's let alone 14's feels fast...so who cares if runs 14.4 .6 or .8?

Mike S.
i care. those .1's are huge when you get down to the 14's. a family sedan at 14.4 is unreal, esp from a V6. a 14.6 is good and a 14.8 is nothing anymore, adam ran a 14.8 in his stock 2k1. the new maxima better get a 14.4 at least, i think it will.
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Originally posted by Mike S.
So...C5 man...which are you getting?

PS-why are people so cought up in .1 here .1 there? I mean...anything in the low 15's let alone 14's feels fast...so who cares if runs 14.4 .6 or .8?

Mike S.
Not positive, Leaning towards the 5-speed Altima over the 6-speed Max.... mainly based on exterior looks and price. I think I would be happy with a base model Altima SE... that comes with most power options, AC, CD player and such, and I can get it for invoice $20.8k (maybe lower, I've helped the dealer sell several cars, and he is going to owe me for some web/computer work shortly to). Its going to be used as a commuter car, I had a 2000 Maxima SE before. Its a close call and a difficult choice between the two, they are both very nice cars... and I think they will "feel" about the same acceleration wise. I'm, not in any rush though.
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The Bentley Arnage does 0-60mph in 5.9 seconds as well, and back to 0mph in 2.6 seconds. What a rip-off!



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