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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Headlight Tinting (specifically yellow)

Looking to possibly do this. I remember seeing a member here on the .org with them (I believe I've seen 2 5th gens if I recall correctly).

Either way, anyone have pictures? I know this looks awesome on the Sunlit Sand 5th gens. Thanks in advance.
Old Sep 1, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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i have seen ppl AE there factorys but never tint. tinting looks RICE
Old Sep 1, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Minus the fogs/hood scoop and grill, this picture doesn't look too ricey to me.

Old Sep 1, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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looks horrible and old/ i would recommend not tinting your headlights
Old Sep 1, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MIK3
this picture doesn't look too ricey to me.
It does to me.
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 04:15 AM
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I wouldn't say 'rice'. More like French (who have been responsible for more than their share of automotive oddities over the years). Yellow light distorts the colors of things, and is worse than the sealed bulb headlights that used to be the SAE standard (before halogens). No thanks.

Unless you run uber-powerful bulbs, the amount of light output that passes through the yellow filter is noticeably less then with all-standard equipment. Can you say "ANTI-performance mod"?

The use of standard bulbs and yellow filtering may be acceptable for driving in fog, when you should be driving slowly anyway. But for normal weather you really should stick to clear lenses.


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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson
I wouldn't say 'rice'. More like French (who have been responsible for more than their share of automotive oddities over the years). Yellow light distorts the colors of things, and is worse than the sealed bulb headlights that used to be the SAE standard (before halogens). No thanks.

Unless you run uber-powerful bulbs, the amount of light output that passes through the yellow filter is noticeably less then with all-standard equipment. Can you say "ANTI-performance mod"?

The use of standard bulbs and yellow filtering may be acceptable for driving in fog, when you should be driving slowly anyway. But for normal weather you really should stick to clear lenses.


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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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please don't tint it...it does look ugly...my neighbor had yellow tint on his headlights for his accord...along with neon lights chrome tail lights a tacky body kit and other junk...he doesn't think it looks rice...go figure =/
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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if you HAVE to have some lights yellow... go with tinting the fog lights instead of the ACTUAL headlights... the 5th gens' lens is way huge and that is what makes it look ugly at first

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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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what kinda fogs are those?

and no it looks

just like that hood scoop thing on his hood which is a different color.

fwiw there is blue tint which doesn't effect the headlights as much as yellow.

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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Sweet! I've been looking for this stuff myself, but can't remember what its called. I want the quality film....the one that will hold up to the heat my factory fogs put out. Anyone one know the name?


As for using this for your headlights....to each his own. If you like it go for it, but like someone's already mentioned, the performance of your light output will suffer. Kind of like putting in those colored bulbs. My 2 cents.

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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 01:42 AM
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you can always get 3000K d2r bulbs (if its a 5.5 gen) if you want to have yellow low beams, otherwise in the halogen housings you will hardly be able to see anything in front of you. The tint looks tacky IMHO
Old Sep 3, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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dont do it.
Old Sep 3, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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The only yellow lighting that looks good are fogs with yellow turn signals coming in second......Like Freeway did.....
Old Sep 3, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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looks like your maxima is going hunting.
Old Sep 4, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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unless this is your car. you cant tint your headlights yellow. and it still looks pretty RICE to me
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson
I wouldn't say 'rice'. More like French (who have been responsible for more than their share of automotive oddities over the years). Yellow light distorts the colors of things, and is worse than the sealed bulb headlights that used to be the SAE standard (before halogens). No thanks.

Unless you run uber-powerful bulbs, the amount of light output that passes through the yellow filter is noticeably less then with all-standard equipment. Can you say "ANTI-performance mod"?

The use of standard bulbs and yellow filtering may be acceptable for driving in fog, when you should be driving slowly anyway. But for normal weather you really should stick to clear lenses.


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Actually, I have been considering yellow tint for my headlights too, but for safety reasons rather than cosmetic ones. There are real reasons why headlights are yellow in France (not just an automotive oddity) and why yellow lights are significantly superior rather than merely "acceptable" in fog. In contrast to marketing hype and the lay public's perception, the scientific truth is that the refractive/physiological properties of the human eye are most attuned to the focal length of visible light in the 550-570 nm range, which corresponds to yellow-green light. Is it any wonder, since the Sun is a yellow star? Conversely, the complimentary wavelength (bluish colored lights) creates the most distortions with scattered images forming anterior to the retinal plane of the eye. So, while applying yellow tint will (on average) reduce net light output by 12%, visual perception actually improves by 30%. Therefore, optimizing the output spectrum of your lights actually allows you to see better with less light. This also makes your headlights more visible to oncoming traffic/pedestrians without creating blinding glare. This goes double when driving in fog (essentially sea level clouds of water vapor), where the suspended water droplets transmit yellow light, but reflect/scatter blue light (why the sky looks blue). Thereby, yellow foglights improve transmission/visibility while reduce blinding of the driver by his/her own lights. So yellow tints are an excellent mod IMO, and more reason to do it if you like the look.
Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Damn... my hood schoops were fire... lol

Yeah... that was my car waaaaayyyy... back. The yellow tint was fine, however the hoodscoops were hella gay. I was running 50w hids and the light output was fine. If you live in the sticks then you may want to reconsider. I don't, so there were no worries.

Don't let the org make your decision and take advice from people that have never actually done the mod you ask about. The blind leading the blind. If done correctly it looks good.

I changed mine from the yellow to the smoke. Got the tint from lamin-x.com GOOD LUCK!!!

My car prior to me totaling it out.





My new car now. Fresh new platform. Although, now my car looks just like 99% of the other org members here. It's a learning experience. You'll eventually get to the spot you want to be after a few trial and errors. ie... hood scoops. Whoops.




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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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Read this:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html

Get Narva Gold's to stay legal. Or stay/go HID and yellow your fogs:

Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Actually, I have been considering yellow tint for my headlights too, but for safety reasons rather than cosmetic ones. There are real reasons why headlights are yellow in France (not just an automotive oddity) and why yellow lights are significantly superior rather than merely "acceptable" in fog. In contrast to marketing hype and the lay public's perception, the scientific truth is that the refractive/physiological properties of the human eye are most attuned to the focal length of visible light in the 550-570 nm range, which corresponds to yellow-green light. Is it any wonder, since the Sun is a yellow star? Conversely, the complimentary wavelength (bluish colored lights) creates the most distortions with scattered images forming anterior to the retinal plane of the eye. So, while applying yellow tint will (on average) reduce net light output by 12%, visual perception actually improves by 30%. Therefore, optimizing the output spectrum of your lights actually allows you to see better with less light. This also makes your headlights more visible to oncoming traffic/pedestrians without creating blinding glare. This goes double when driving in fog (essentially sea level clouds of water vapor), where the suspended water droplets transmit yellow light, but reflect/scatter blue light (why the sky looks blue).
Maybe the eye is most sensitive to 550 - 570nm light, but what color temperature is that? Noonday sunlight (and photographic flash, where the intent is to synthesize "natural" lighting) is 5000-ish K which arguably the eye has also evolved to deal with, as humans are basically daytime animals. In addition to that yellow sun, there is a huge amount of blue from the rest of the sky, otherwise 3000 K bulbs would look more natural. Perhaps with the additional light level at noon vs at sunrise/sunset the eye does not have to be as sensitive at that color temperature but is more sensitive to the "warmer" color temperature at the ends of the daylight. There's more to good nighttime lighting than just a sensitivity vs wavelength curve.


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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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A lot of the appeal to yellow is that it is diffracted less by moisture in the atmosphere.

Air ain't blue. It's clear. The reason we see it as blue is that the shorter wavelength blue light diffracts more, so blue is the dominant color.

At sunrise and sunset, however, the path the light travels through the atmosphere is significantly longer, because it isn't directly overhead, it's at a very high angle of incidence. Yellow/red light doesn't diffract as much, so it penetrates further into the atmosphere, becoming the dominant color at dawn and dusk.

Here's a NRA analogy - the blue light is like a shotgun, and the yellow light is like a .22. At a close range, the blue light dominates the yellow light, but at long range, the yellow is dominant.

In fog and rain, the diffusion of blue light increases (that's why the sky is grey during storms - blue light is diffused before it reaches the ground), so having yellow light is an advantage.

it's safe to say that Maxima fogs (on my 4th gen, at least) are purely cosmetic - they're white, and they only go on when the headlights are on.

The idea behind a yellow foglight is that you kill the main headlights and use just the foglights in the snow/rain/fog.

Have you ever driven in the fog or snow, then turned on your highbeams, and realized that they actually reduced your visibility by reflecting off the fog and blinding you?

The foglights are aimed low, to illuminate the road ahead of you, and are yellow, to diffuse less.

My dad's Mazda6, with yellow PIAA fogs wired independently from the headlight, that's much easier to drive in adverse weather than my 4th gen. I put on the fogs, and put it on parking lights only, and it drives like a champ.

Norm, 550-570nm is yellowish green. 4500k I guess?


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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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Lots of awesome feedback. Thanks guys. Orgullo's car was actually my initial inspiration and I'm starting to feel more towards the tinted bronze look your car had in it's most recent form before the total. And I agree, over 90% of the cars should never tint the headlights, but for some reason, on Sunlit Sand, it looks really clean. I also plan on CFing my hood/trunk later on down the road. The colors should compliment well. I'm still debating...
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