it was at night on a open clear strait road. we r both GLE's. I got him of lift off till 40 by like his bumper at the back of the drivers door. and then when we shift to second he just starts to pull amazingly. then we stopped

i have 64500 miles and need new tranny fluid and i have intake
he was stock with very low miles

 

get a y-pipe.

 

i have a 97 auto with intake and ypipe and cat back and HAVE beaten a 2000 and 2001

 

my friends car shifts way quicker than mine, i need new tranny fluid...but a 5 gen pulls pretty good in second gear to be that heavy

 

Get a transmission! hehe...

 

I think you meant "his car"
My car pulls like crazy when it downshifts from like 40mph.
How much do 4th gen GLE's weigh anyways?

 

00-01's automagics don't redline. Yours does. At least my superlight '95 SE does. . You shoulda beaten him. ...did you say you manually shifted ? I've left it in 2nd too long once and it shifted on me while i was still in second ! Worthless, I just need a 5spd...

 

 

I raced milano's 2K auto with my 97 SE 5-speed. Neither one of us has any performance mods. I got off the line quicker and beat him to 60, but as soon as i pushed the clutch in to shift to third, he took off. I was happy though.

 

With the extra horsepower, the 5th gen will get you on the top end everytime. The intake just isn't enough. Add a Y pipe and you'll be straight.

 

Lets end this one quick before it gets into one of those debates again, each one has its advantages!

 

my gle won't redline it only goes to six

 

Hmm...

2000 Automagic

0-60: 7.8 seconds
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'97 5spd

0-60: 6.7 seconds


You should have easily taken him(or any a-magic for that matter) up to 60 at least, unless your a newbie shifter.

 

You ever come up to CT, you can find out just how much of a "newbie shifter" i am.

 

Yet you almost got beat by a 2k AUTOmagic.

You have a fast car, and if you are a good shifter....

well maybe he was supercharged

 

Allllllllllllllllright!!!

#1) 7.8 seconds for a 2000 auto is the Road and Track number for a brand new (not broken in) max

#2) 6.7 seconds is the manufacturer's number for a 97 5-speed

(in order for a comparison to be accurate, the numbers must be taken from the same source)

#3) driving style figures into a 0-60 time (i.e. drop clutching, clutless shifts, launch rpm's, etc), therefore times have been known to vary from driver to driver

#4) do you even have a 5-speed? if not you are in no position to tell me i'm a "newbie shifter". If you do, i would like to see you take a stock 97 max to a track and post a 0-60 time of 6.7 seconds, or even post a 6.7 second time with a G-Tech Pro (which we all know never lie)

#5) if you even read my entire previous post, you will see that I said, "Neither one of us has any performance mods." Therefore, he was not supercharged.

****For everyone besides Craig Mack, I'm sorry I'm being a d!ck, but hey, he asked for it.****

 

Relax dude, it's a fact that a 97 5spd "should" wreck a 2K1 Automagic.

 

I only have an intake and I have taken my friend's 2000 Maxima SE. And he will admit to it too, because we only went to 90 MpH and he couldn't catch up. Both automatics. I jump off the line by 1/2 car, keep pulling until about 1 car (40 MpH) and then he keeps up. He might have been gaining at the end, but I still won by about 1/2 car. I'm proud of it too.
-Cyrus

 

Yea, really bro. Take a seat or somethin'.

I've ridin' in both automagic max's and a 5spd, which was a '95 5spd. a very fast car. I donno about a '97, but Driven properly, a '95 5spd will put any 00-01 a-magic to shame.

 

a 95 and 97 differ. The 95 is the quickest 0-60, but like my friend dkbl97SE said, all performance specs that close are just that close on paper, not in real life. All numbers from published sources are taken from flat test tracks with professional drivers. Now in theory the 4th gen stick should take the 5th gen auto. Yes. And this is what happend. the 97 took the 2000 untill 60mph and then got passed. So if all we are talking about is 0-60, yeah, the 4th gen won. But when we are talking about beyond that, the 5th gen, even autoed, still has much more HP and torque and is therefore faster anfter the initial 60mph sprint.

 

One factor has been left out. The 97 is an "old" car. The feul filter may be a bit clogged, the plugs may be near their change time. The air filter may be dirty. The 2k1 car will have fresher hardware. The fuel filter is an often neglected maintenance item that really affects performace. it should be changed every 15K miles. If you use the 300ZX filter (like I did), you can change it every 30K miles.

DW

 

Performance numbers in magazines are not typically by professional drivers, they are by journalists. I've never had any problem DESTROYING the performance numbers published for any of the car's I've owned... I was .6 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile in my Civic when it was stock (16.2 vs 16.8 published) and .4 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile in my maxima when it was stock (14.8 vs 15.2 published). Keep in mind thes numbers were obtained my first time at the track with each car. Does this mean I'm the next Ayerton Senna? I think not. Don't put so much stock in the numbers magazines or manufacturers publish.

 

I used to lose to Paul2k1/2k2(or whatever his new name is#;>)) (he had an intake only).. BTW I have a '96 auto.

With intake, y and ecu I win (he had gone back stock).

 

Stock to Stock, the 5th Gens have to the power advantage near the top of 2nd. Y-pipes will help this.

 

Not if your racing a 5spd 'stang.

 

Thats exactly my point. In your case, the times were faster, but they could have very well been the other way around. We must also remember that racing on a track and racing on a street are very different. If there is a slight incline, for example, the car with more torque (5th gen) has an advantage over the other car (4th gen).


***Y-pipe, CAI, and short throw will be going in next spring DEEZO!!*** (5th gen)

 

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