Question for everyone with a 3" exhaust
Question for everyone with a 3" exhaust
How do you guys do the piping? I have OBX headers and I want to run it like this... header > 3" electric cut out > HFC > 3" exhaust but my question is how do you make the 3" and the 2.5" from the headers bolt up? I haven't been able to find a 2.5" in 3" out cutout or anything like that. Could someone give me an idea as to how to run this setup?
Got it, thanks for all the input guys. I've decided to do a 2.5" electric cutout and maybe change to a 3" exhaust later on down the road. Local shop wants 200 to install the cutout, weld the flanges, move the cat and resonator back and run the wiring. Is that decent?
A 3" exhaust would cost me alot more than that around here. I don't know why, but shops around here are expensive.
only time I used 3.0" was on turbo application, complete turbo back.
3" to 2.5" reducer: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001804SEA
3" to 2.5" reducer: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001804SEA
I think muffler shops charge like $60-75 an hour depending on the shop. I got ripped for $150 for them to weld 2 flanges and a 12 inch long pipe with a bend to join my down pipe from the turbo to the rest of the exhaust. I think $200 sounds about right for what they have to do.
And I'm sure it's faster than your turdbo 4th gen
I have done my reading, not to mention testing and fabrication. I am running a 3" exhaust, but only because I am in the 400hp range and moving a huge volume of air. In N/A applications your exhaust makes best power by maintaining a negative pressure wave in the exhaust system which draws the spent gasses from the combustion chamber as each valve opens. For this to happen, moderate exhaust velocity must be maintained. A 3" system would have such low exhaust velocity that no scavenging could take place. Not to mention the added weight.
Last edited by bryan163; Nov 1, 2009 at 10:18 PM.
Your not bringing proof to the table...just what you say.
On the org here are SEVERAL dyno's on different cars, showing gains on the low, mid, high.
Stock, lightly modded, and heavy modded....all power gains. Dyno's are readily available when you search
On the org here are SEVERAL dyno's on different cars, showing gains on the low, mid, high.
Stock, lightly modded, and heavy modded....all power gains. Dyno's are readily available when you search
I've experienced the opposite in cars I've actually done exhausts for. Top end was improved by going 2.5" with some compromise at low and mid rpms. I would never push it to 3" on an N/A car. That is also the reason why manufacturers of performance exhaust dont make them that way. What are these dynos in comparison to?
too many variables, if you've 'done' exhausts.
Alot of performance companies make 3" version of exhausts. We had prototyped GReddy TiC 3" models on several NA cars, with heavy breathing mods, which eventually were brought to market.
SR20VE powered Sentras need 3" to breathe correctly. K20A2 powered Hondas need 3" exhaust to breathe correctly, esp with heavy mods.
Alot of performance companies make 3" version of exhausts. We had prototyped GReddy TiC 3" models on several NA cars, with heavy breathing mods, which eventually were brought to market.
SR20VE powered Sentras need 3" to breathe correctly. K20A2 powered Hondas need 3" exhaust to breathe correctly, esp with heavy mods.
I've experienced the opposite in cars I've actually done exhausts for. Top end was improved by going 2.5" with some compromise at low and mid rpms. I would never push it to 3" on an N/A car. That is also the reason why manufacturers of performance exhaust dont make them that way. What are these dynos in comparison to?
I'm not searching, I've explained this time and time again and have converted how many people from saying "omg you can't do 3" exhaust" to "HOLY CRAP look it the gains you got across the entire rev band"
I'm not explaining this **** anymore cause I'm tried of thickheaded people not wanting to get rid of myth's....thats all you go on....myths
i say just keep the electric cutout (which 200 is a pretty reasonable price) and dont waste more money getting 3 inch later cuz its the same thing. you running the version 2 obx? I'm gonna get these soon. i was thinking about doing the 3 inch exhaust myself. it will cost around 175 here
UPDATE: Decided that in the Spring, I'm going to do a 3" exhaust. I'd like to do OBX Headers > Straight pipe to an 18" Magnaflow > Magnaflow Muffler.
I don't really want it any louder than my current setup, but is 18" enough to keep the volume down? Any recommendations on which Magnaflow muffler to use? Here is a sound clip of the car now for reference...
and one under load...
I don't really want it any louder than my current setup, but is 18" enough to keep the volume down? Any recommendations on which Magnaflow muffler to use? Here is a sound clip of the car now for reference...
and one under load...
This is the resonator that I have on my car now...
http://www.hottexhaust.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=10416
I cannot find a 3" MagnaFlow resonator. The closest thing I found was a muffler in the same shape...
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...e=main&id=8251
Only thing is that the resonator is 4" round body and the muffler is 7" round body. Would that even fit under the car??
http://www.hottexhaust.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=10416
I cannot find a 3" MagnaFlow resonator. The closest thing I found was a muffler in the same shape...
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...e=main&id=8251
Only thing is that the resonator is 4" round body and the muffler is 7" round body. Would that even fit under the car??
Got the 3" done with an electric cutout. Holy **** is that thing loud with the cutout open!!!
Question though, how did you guys get the 3" pipe over the rear suspension?? It barely fits and it has no room to move. So it either hits when I go over bumps on the top of the underside of the car and it also sits on that control arm (is that what it is in the back??) and buzzes like crazy. Any fixes? Would header wrap on the exhaust piping there help?
Question though, how did you guys get the 3" pipe over the rear suspension?? It barely fits and it has no room to move. So it either hits when I go over bumps on the top of the underside of the car and it also sits on that control arm (is that what it is in the back??) and buzzes like crazy. Any fixes? Would header wrap on the exhaust piping there help?
Got the 3" done with an electric cutout. Holy **** is that thing loud with the cutout open!!!
Question though, how did you guys get the 3" pipe over the rear suspension?? It barely fits and it has no room to move. So it either hits when I go over bumps on the top of the underside of the car and it also sits on that control arm (is that what it is in the back??) and buzzes like crazy. Any fixes? Would header wrap on the exhaust piping there help?
Question though, how did you guys get the 3" pipe over the rear suspension?? It barely fits and it has no room to move. So it either hits when I go over bumps on the top of the underside of the car and it also sits on that control arm (is that what it is in the back??) and buzzes like crazy. Any fixes? Would header wrap on the exhaust piping there help?
Anyone happen to have pictures of the rear section? (haha
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Got the 3" done with an electric cutout. Holy **** is that thing loud with the cutout open!!!
Question though, how did you guys get the 3" pipe over the rear suspension?? It barely fits and it has no room to move. So it either hits when I go over bumps on the top of the underside of the car and it also sits on that control arm (is that what it is in the back??) and buzzes like crazy. Any fixes? Would header wrap on the exhaust piping there help?
Question though, how did you guys get the 3" pipe over the rear suspension?? It barely fits and it has no room to move. So it either hits when I go over bumps on the top of the underside of the car and it also sits on that control arm (is that what it is in the back??) and buzzes like crazy. Any fixes? Would header wrap on the exhaust piping there help?
Got the 3" done with an electric cutout. Holy **** is that thing loud with the cutout open!!!
Question though, how did you guys get the 3" pipe over the rear suspension?? It barely fits and it has no room to move. So it either hits when I go over bumps on the top of the underside of the car and it also sits on that control arm (is that what it is in the back??) and buzzes like crazy. Any fixes? Would header wrap on the exhaust piping there help?
Question though, how did you guys get the 3" pipe over the rear suspension?? It barely fits and it has no room to move. So it either hits when I go over bumps on the top of the underside of the car and it also sits on that control arm (is that what it is in the back??) and buzzes like crazy. Any fixes? Would header wrap on the exhaust piping there help?
thats not really ghetto, as long as it does the job and nobody can see it, theres nothing wrong with using a piece of tire
my stock exhaust was ghetto, i got my Magnaflow put on in spring of 09 so my stock exhaust lasted 17 years in Canadian year-round weather. the hanger was bent to ****, and a 3/4 chunk of the bottom was rusted and broken off dangling. no noise from it though, dead silent but it looked horrible.
my stock exhaust was ghetto, i got my Magnaflow put on in spring of 09 so my stock exhaust lasted 17 years in Canadian year-round weather. the hanger was bent to ****, and a 3/4 chunk of the bottom was rusted and broken off dangling. no noise from it though, dead silent but it looked horrible.
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