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Old 12-07-2001, 02:23 PM
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$300 super charger option

http://www.electricsupercharger.com

1psi of boost
4-12 HP gain

WOW! What a bargain for such terrific gains!!!
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A 98 max owner was one of the testimonials. Anyone know who it is?
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I never heard of this thing before. Does it actually add HP?
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I never heard of this thing before. Does it actually add HP?
No, there are a couple of old threads on it, search. Someone actually lost a couple HP with it.

I think it is a problem of 12 volts not being enough to produce usable boost. Any electrical types know if it would be possible to wire a second (or third) battery (or capacetor) in parallel to increase voltage and make an electric supercharger that really works?
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Jerry Jerry Jerry, you should know better.

shame.

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Old 12-07-2001, 04:16 PM
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It sounds like a silly product. It only activates at WOT, so unless you regularly floor the gas pedal, which would be a dumb thing to do in a Max from a standstill since the front tires would just spin and smoke up.

Unlike a real SC, where you have extra power all time, regardless of throttle position.
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Originally posted by Anachronism

No, there are a couple of old threads on it, search. Someone actually lost a couple HP with it.

I think it is a problem of 12 volts not being enough to produce usable boost. Any electrical types know if it would be possible to wire a second (or third) battery (or capacetor) in parallel to increase voltage and make an electric supercharger that really works?

Yeah you would loose HP if you wired it backwards
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Better cheap supercharger:

Find some guy really hard up for money, sit him under your hood, have him blow into your air intake tube for $20 bucks. Wheee!
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Better cheap supercharger:

Find some guy really hard up for money, sit him under your hood, have him blow into your air intake tube for $20 bucks. Wheee!
But that would add weight Rob...weight != good
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Old 12-07-2001, 07:29 PM
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But that would add weight Rob...weight != good
There's a lotta boneracks downtown, I'm sure if you searched around you could find a really skinny guy or a midget
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Old 12-07-2001, 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by ereet
Better cheap supercharger:

Find some guy really hard up for money, sit him under your hood, have him blow into your air intake tube for $20 bucks. Wheee!
Thats Carbon Dioxide, not oxygen.. Oxygen is what ya need, duhhhh.
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Old 12-07-2001, 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by Lordrandall
Jerry Jerry Jerry, you should know better.

shame.

!--shruggs shoulders--!

What'd I do? I'm just try'n to help you guys get better performance.
!--wink, wink--!
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Old 12-07-2001, 09:12 PM
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add a tornado to one of these bad boys and you'll get real power
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Old 12-07-2001, 09:46 PM
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if you search on the bmw forum youll find alot about that pruduct.. his the numbers really dont add up. AND, when the fan is not running, your restricting your intake
 
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they say "guaranteed"

anyone want to buy one then dyno your car?

Looks like a regular intake to me
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Old 12-07-2001, 10:24 PM
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I looked at the demo video, and the thing actually flies outta the guys hands...I think i'll be the guinea pig...It couldn't hurt, and if it does, I'll just put my CAI back on.
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your wasting your money.. read up on it.. i found that site a few months ago.. youll be lucky if you break even.. the lil horspower it makes is barely makin up for what your loosing just to turn the thing on
 
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Originally posted by 93_MaxSpeedMark
I looked at the demo video, and the thing actually flies outta the guys hands...I think i'll be the guinea pig...It couldn't hurt, and if it does, I'll just put my CAI back on.

well, if you ever get it, be shure to tell us what u think about it
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get a turbonator on top of that and you are set

www.turbonator.com
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Daniel B. Martin and I did a little research project talking to fan and blower vendors trying to find out what kind of power usage and fan types to create a constant 3-9 psi in the intake manifold threshold. Basically there were 3 companies that could make these fans on a 12 volt power source, but it would cost nearly 5k. One company said they could do it cheaper but feared that the cost savings would leave you with less than optimal bearing and motor. Leaving it with a short spin life, maybe 100-200hrs. So it's possible, but not realiable for an application such as ours. Sorry.
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Old 12-08-2001, 10:34 PM
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From the research that you've done...

Could a more reliable and/or less expensive blower be made with a 30v or even a 42v source?

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Daniel B. Martin and I did a little research project talking to fan and blower vendors trying to find out what kind of power usage and fan types to create a constant 3-9 psi in the intake manifold threshold. Basically there were 3 companies that could make these fans on a 12 volt power source, but it would cost nearly 5k. One company said they could do it cheaper but feared that the cost savings would leave you with less than optimal bearing and motor. Leaving it with a short spin life, maybe 100-200hrs. So it's possible, but not realiable for an application such as ours. Sorry.
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No we didn't, we were only looking at it on a bolt on feature for the common car. The biggest problem was that the motor would have to be pretty small or have it belt driven off of a satelite motor. And there are motors and fans that will move that much cubic ft of air but the motor would have to beable to spin the rotors at like 25k rpms a minute or more. to provide that 3-9lbs of pressure. Plus when you had it turned off it would restrict air flow. So in time I would assume that technology might allow it to happen, but its not there yet.
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Old 12-09-2001, 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by mAdD MAX


But that would add weight Rob...weight != good
get like a 100000000000000000 feeet hose and suck it to his mouth an d the intake, have it blow air @ home
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Originally posted by ereet
Better cheap supercharger:

Find some guy really hard up for money, sit him under your hood, have him blow into your air intake tube for $20 bucks. Wheee!
yeah thats not a bad idea,but when you mount this guy under your car to blow his warm breath into your intake,hes gonna weigh at least 150 so you would (according to the 100lbs=.1 seconds rule) would probably end up slowing your car down
NOW if you want real genuine front wheel horsepower and low end torque,simply take off both windshield wipers,throw away the driver side wiper and raise the passenger side wiper to give you the "1 wiper effect" i have heard gains of up to 12 hp and 14 ft lbs. of torque from this mod
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Originally posted by costcowholesale


get like a 100000000000000000 feeet hose and suck it to his mouth an d the intake, have it blow air @ home
Hahahaha. Yeah, you'd have a problem though everytime you crossed streets though cause people would run over the hose and cut off your intake supply
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Originally posted by Rancid90SE

yeah thats not a bad idea,but when you mount this guy under your car to blow his warm breath into your intake,hes gonna weigh at least 150 so you would (according to the 100lbs=.1 seconds rule) would probably end up slowing your car down
NOW if you want real genuine front wheel horsepower and low end torque,simply take off both windshield wipers,throw away the driver side wiper and raise the passenger side wiper to give you the "1 wiper effect" i have heard gains of up to 12 hp and 14 ft lbs. of torque from this mod
Gotta be a midget or a skinny guy.. Get him to suck down a bucket of ice before he starts and you're good to go!

As for the wipers, we all know that driverside wiper weighs a good 300lbs. Why else would people do that?
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ok.. for the simple fear of ridicule i wasnt gonna post this earlier. i was trying to figure out the best way to mount a 120v motor, such as a small leaf blower or a shop vac engine running through the intake. so i did alot of looking around , even went out and bought the perfect motor for the project i had in mind, until i found this site.. give it a look and tell me what you guys think. i was glad to see i was at least not the only moron with the idea, but not for nothin, it seems to me that he had more of an electrical problem then anything, so im still wondering.. if any one is serious about tryin to do somethin like this i have alot of good ideas so feel free to ask..
http://www.bimmers.com/m3/hoax/index.html
 
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I stopped reading after the W.A.S.T.E.O.F.T.I.M.E. part but what was his conclusion, other that he's a fool for cutting a hole in the hood of his M3?
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listen.. im not gonna sit here and type the enitre story when you can take 2 min and just read it.. its not that long.
 
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it seems to me like a joke ..
the guy didn't really cut a hole in his M3...

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it seems to me like a joke ..
the guy didn't really cut a hole in his M3...

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no.. he really did... i still think the concept in do-able.. i think his power inverter went up in smoke.. i tried emailing these people about it but got no response..
 
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Hmm, all that extra air, and no increased fuel delivery...
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