question about blow off valve and its uses, racing with turbo eclipse Questions

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Dec 18, 2001 | 08:31 PM
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1) are blow off value only effective on turbos?

2) i raced a eclipse with a blow off value few month ago, i just realize he must had a turbo, at least the stock turbo, since i could hear the blow off valve. since you must have turbo or sc in order to have blow off value, this dude at least have a stock turbo.

3) final questions, now even if this dude I raced had a stock turbo, he still could run mid 14's However i walked him like I walk civics. my car is stock. we raced several times from 60 , from 70, 80, all those raced he werent even close. a stock maxima runs 15's or 16's . how could i walk him like that. walk=6 cars length or longer.
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Dec 18, 2001 | 08:47 PM
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Re: question about blow off valve and its uses, racing with turbo eclipse Questions
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Originally posted by LucentAUTO
1) are blow off value only effective on turbos?
No. Superchargers and Turboes.

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2) i raced a eclipse with a blow off value few month ago, i just realize he must had a turbo, at least the stock turbo, since i could hear the blow off valve. since you must have turbo or sc in order to have blow off value, this dude at least have a stock turbo.
Correct.

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[i]3) final questions, now even if this dude I raced had a stock turbo, he still could run mid 14's However i walked him like I walk civics. my car is stock. we raced several times from 60 , from 70, 80, all those raced he werent even close. a stock maxima runs 15's or 16's . how could i walk him like that. walk=6 cars length or longer.
****ty driver.
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Dec 18, 2001 | 08:48 PM
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Re: question about blow off valve and its uses, racing with turbo eclipse Questions
1) are blow off value only effective on turbos?


blow off valves can only be used on cars with forced induction like S/C or turbos

2) i raced a eclipse with a blow off value few month ago, i just realize he must had a turbo, at least the stock turbo, since i could hear the blow off valve. since you must have turbo or sc in order to have blow off value, this dude at least have a stock turbo.

Yes, he must have had the stock turbo, like those found on GSX's and GST's and perhaps maybe even an aftermarket turbo setup

3) final questions, now even if this dude I raced had a stock turbo, he still could run mid 14's However i walked him like I walk civics. my car is stock. we raced several times from 60 , from 70, 80, all those raced he werent even close. a stock maxima runs 15's or 16's . how could i walk him like that. walk=6 cars length or longer.


are you sure you heard a blow off valve? they do have things from taiwan that produce a blow off "psssst"
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Dec 18, 2001 | 08:54 PM
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gotrice: definitly, I know how it sounds like. my other friends has turbo with valve setup.


I dont get it...even this dude cant drive, he still would be able to pull me off easily.
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Dec 18, 2001 | 09:50 PM
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I've seen automatic FWD DSMs running 16s at the track. One guy had intake and exhaust and ran a best of 16.03... he was a friend of a friend.
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Dec 18, 2001 | 09:55 PM
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this guy was manual. im not sure if its the highest model, but i m definitly sure he has a manual and blow off


maybe im just fast
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Dec 18, 2001 | 10:12 PM
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according to the "times" the 2g auto turbo Eclipses run mid/high 15's!! kinda sucks.....slow and unreliable!
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Dec 19, 2001 | 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
according to the "times" the 2g auto turbo Eclipses run mid/high 15's!! kinda sucks.....slow and unreliable!
HA...spend $500 on a DSM and $500 on a Max and tell me which car goes faster!
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Dec 19, 2001 | 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
HA...spend $500 on a DSM and $500 on a Max and tell me which car goes faster!
well thats after the fact......and trust me I know, me and my friend just installed about $700+ in mods a on his GST 5spd a few weeks ago...results were a full second off and 13.8-13.9s, but still I've heard that the auto versions seriously lack!
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Dec 19, 2001 | 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max


HA...spend $500 on a DSM and $500 on a Max and tell me which car goes faster!
if you buy a y pipe for the max and and mp3 player for the DSM.. the Max still goes faster..


Gotrice4 .. Matt says i have Forced Induction.. but i don't need a BOV?
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Dec 19, 2001 | 10:00 AM
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actually there are a couple FREE mods than you can use to get high 13's low 14's

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Originally posted by DA-MAX


well thats after the fact......and trust me I know, me and my friend just installed about $700+ in mods a on his GST 5spd a few weeks ago...results were a full second off and 13.8-13.9s, but still I've heard that the auto versions seriously lack!
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Dec 19, 2001 | 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
actually there are a couple FREE mods than you can use to get high 13's low 14's
yup BCS restiction removal for about an extra 2 psi and the BOV return tube removal.....we did those as well a few weeks back! the funny thing is with those two mods done its possible to just add an intake and a boost controller and hit mid/low 14's with under $100 in mods! scary ****!
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Dec 19, 2001 | 10:18 AM
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you is a bad motha <<<shut your mouth>>>
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Originally posted by DA-MAX


yup BCS restiction removal for about an extra 2 psi and the BOV return tube removal.....we did those as well a few weeks back! the funny thing is with those two mods done its possible to just add an intake and a boost controller and hit mid/low 14's with under $100 in mods! scary ****!
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Dec 19, 2001 | 10:26 AM
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I think you are giving Eclipses way to much credit. Stock for stock, Maximas OWN! Sure Eclipses have more HP, but damn, its a little four banger. NO TORQUE! The turbo would make up for it, but by the time the stock turbo completely spools up, the race is over!

DPW
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Dec 19, 2001 | 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by TintDaMax
I think you are giving Eclipses way to much credit. Stock for stock, Maximas OWN! Sure Eclipses have more HP, but damn, its a little four banger. NO TORQUE! The turbo would make up for it, but by the time the stock turbo completely spools up, the race is over!

DPW
Kirk is going to repremand you for that no torque comment
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Dec 19, 2001 | 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max


HA...spend $500 on a DSM and $500 on a Max and tell me which car goes faster!
hmmm...eclipse RS..$500...not much there..
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Dec 19, 2001 | 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by TintDaMax
The turbo would make up for it, but by the time the stock turbo completely spools up, the race is over!
you wish........remember a real race lasts more than 5ft!
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Dec 19, 2001 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
if you buy a y pipe for the max and and mp3 player for the DSM.. the Max still goes faster..


Gotrice4 .. Matt says i have Forced Induction.. but i don't need a BOV?
I knew someone was gonna say something about my forced induction comment glad it was you. I personally never considered NOS forced induction, but i've never considered it N/A either I dunno what i've been thinking for the past years. But anyways, i thought you had forced induction. I thought you had a S/C or was i just tripping?
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Dec 19, 2001 | 10:52 AM
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well if your talkin stock for stock, the Max might beat it out. When you go into the world of aftermarket, there is much more potential for the DSM.
13.8-13.9 for $700 in mods isnt good??
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Dec 19, 2001 | 11:43 AM
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no i always lied
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Originally posted by Gotrice4


I knew someone was gonna say something about my forced induction comment glad it was you. I personally never considered NOS forced induction, but i've never considered it N/A either I dunno what i've been thinking for the past years. But anyways, i thought you had forced induction. I thought you had a S/C or was i just tripping?
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Dec 19, 2001 | 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
no i always lied
good to see i'm not trippin' at least
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Dec 19, 2001 | 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
no i always lied
sprint's got an auto too.
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Dec 20, 2001 | 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by LucentAUTO
gotrice: definitly, I know how it sounds like. my other friends has turbo with valve setup.


I dont get it...even this dude cant drive, he still would be able to pull me off easily.
i question the need for a blow off valve on a near stock turbo setup..back in the late 80's or early 90's i'd pick up a TURBO magazine and blow off valves were not "in style." my father let me take his WRX to the track and ran a 14.6 with it in stock form. a buddy of mine also has a WRX. the only difference is he has a 5ziggen fireball exhaust, shortshifter, AND a blowoff valve. he doesn't run any quicker. in fact my time's sound a little better than his especially since i only ran the WRX for one night and he drives his everyday. i must admit the blowoff valve is for vanity purposes when in a near stock turbo car running stock boost. it sounds great! the stock WRX has it's own blowoff valve design that recirculates the wasted air back into the intake.

also, i enjoy racing the 97 maxima a lot more than racing the WRX. my car (14.32)is faster AND MORE CONSISTENT than me driving my dad's WRX (14.6-15.3 due to heatsoak) anyway. my times in the WRX vary by more than a second due to high rpm launching the AWD and the heatsoak in the intercooler! the maxima has a tremendous lowend/midrange torque advantage over most stock 4 cyl turbo setups. turbo setups usually have lag even when they are in a reasonable gear. the driver has to work hard to keep it in an appropriate high revving gear. i'm still a big fan of turbos. it might be my next real project. i might let the maxima go when it's time to go to a turbo setup ala SR20DET in an old 240sx chassis
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