14.44@95 - auto 2k2!
12-25-2001, 08:50 PM
#81
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As far as I know, the theBlue never made any runs completely bonestock. I believe his 14.7 run was with a catback and intake. Then he got the Y-pipe and ran 14.5s. Then the weahter got nice a cold, he pulled out his seats and ran a 14.2 something.
Dave
Dave
12-25-2001, 08:55 PM
#82
Originally posted by Dave B
As far as I know, the theBlue never made any runs completely bonestock. I believe his 14.7 run was with a catback and intake. Then he got the Y-pipe and ran 14.5s. Then the weahter got nice a cold, he pulled out his seats and ran a 14.2 something.
Dave
As far as I know, the theBlue never made any runs completely bonestock. I believe his 14.7 run was with a catback and intake. Then he got the Y-pipe and ran 14.5s. Then the weahter got nice a cold, he pulled out his seats and ran a 14.2 something.
Dave
12-25-2001, 09:03 PM
#83
dmb ran 14.3 in his 6 speed and this is the first manual car he's ever owned, right? pure driving experience can knock some time off of that.
about corrected times...the colder the air the faster the time right? but the higher the altitude, the faster the time? i dont know anything about this so ill believe whatever you tell me but logically i think it would be, higher altitude = faster time. the air is thinner up high. any baseball fans know the arguement that the Colorado Rockies have an advantage because their stadium is so much higher than others and the ball travels futher more easily. wouldnt it be the same for a car?
Originally posted by PeterUbers
I'm also guessing that an auto 2k2 max up here in my neck of the woods is gunna be running anywhere from 14.7 to 15.0.
I'm also guessing that an auto 2k2 max up here in my neck of the woods is gunna be running anywhere from 14.7 to 15.0.
12-25-2001, 09:09 PM
#84
Originally posted by Newman96SE
dmb ran 14.3 in his 6 speed and this is the first manual car he's ever owned, right? pure driving experience can knock some time off of that.
about corrected times...the colder the air the faster the time right? but the higher the altitude, the faster the time? i dont know anything about this so ill believe whatever you tell me but logically i think it would be, higher altitude = faster time. the air is thinner up high. any baseball fans know the arguement that the Colorado Rockies have an advantage because their stadium is so much higher than others and the ball travels futher more easily. wouldnt it be the same for a car?
dmb ran 14.3 in his 6 speed and this is the first manual car he's ever owned, right? pure driving experience can knock some time off of that.
about corrected times...the colder the air the faster the time right? but the higher the altitude, the faster the time? i dont know anything about this so ill believe whatever you tell me but logically i think it would be, higher altitude = faster time. the air is thinner up high. any baseball fans know the arguement that the Colorado Rockies have an advantage because their stadium is so much higher than others and the ball travels futher more easily. wouldnt it be the same for a car?
12-25-2001, 09:14 PM
#85
Originally posted by dko
it's the other way around. the thing you are looking for is the biggest ammount of oxygen in the air. up high the air is thin and therefore a liter of air has less oxygen. down low it has more. gases also expand and contract quite a bit, so when it's 40 or 50 the density chages, allowing more oxygen per unit of air. that temperature is the optimum for the track; anything lower and traction suffers.
it's the other way around. the thing you are looking for is the biggest ammount of oxygen in the air. up high the air is thin and therefore a liter of air has less oxygen. down low it has more. gases also expand and contract quite a bit, so when it's 40 or 50 the density chages, allowing more oxygen per unit of air. that temperature is the optimum for the track; anything lower and traction suffers.
12-26-2001, 03:12 AM
#86
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I have driven the 02 6 speed, and I think its entirely possible to run a 13.9 at a lower elevation track.
I ran a 14.715 with a stock 97 5 speed SE, and the 02 feels SO much faster!!
I expect that we will see a 13.9 second pass eventually.
I ran a 14.715 with a stock 97 5 speed SE, and the 02 feels SO much faster!!
I expect that we will see a 13.9 second pass eventually.
12-26-2001, 04:47 AM
#87
Originally posted by VeeTec
I have driven the 02 6 speed, and I think its entirely possible to run a 13.9 at a lower elevation track.
I ran a 14.715 with a stock 97 5 speed SE, and the 02 feels SO much faster!!
I expect that we will see a 13.9 second pass eventually.
I have driven the 02 6 speed, and I think its entirely possible to run a 13.9 at a lower elevation track.
I ran a 14.715 with a stock 97 5 speed SE, and the 02 feels SO much faster!!
I expect that we will see a 13.9 second pass eventually.
12-26-2001, 05:16 AM
#88
Like I have stated before, 14.2 is about the best you can hope for. I was directly behind you at the track Steve, and you had about the best launch you could have, so I really don't see where you can gain more than about .1 to .2 seconds.
12-26-2001, 06:42 AM
#89
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Originally posted by VeeTec
I have driven the 02 6 speed, and I think its entirely possible to run a 13.9 at a lower elevation track.
I ran a 14.715 with a stock 97 5 speed SE, and the 02 feels SO much faster!!
I expect that we will see a 13.9 second pass eventually.
I have driven the 02 6 speed, and I think its entirely possible to run a 13.9 at a lower elevation track.
I ran a 14.715 with a stock 97 5 speed SE, and the 02 feels SO much faster!!
I expect that we will see a 13.9 second pass eventually.
As for a 13.9 in a 02. It's very possible with an intake, some smaller drag radials, sea level track, cold weather, and a brutal launch. Would it happen often? No way. Maybe one guy in this org will do it. The car does have the potential. Actually, any carthat can get 95mph in the 1/4 mile is capable of a 13.9 with a very hard launch (assuming you hook up). Will most 6 speed 02s be in the mid to upper 14s when spring and summer come around? Certainly. I think many people don't realize how much of an influence cold weather and low humidity plays in the performance of a relatively high compression motor like the VQ. For every 20 degree increase in temp and humidity (over 50 degrees), I've seen roughly a .15-.2 increase in et and -1mph in trap speed.
Dave
12-26-2001, 07:11 AM
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I know the temp does affect your times pretty noticably.
I believe the temp was 55-60 degrees when I ran the 14.715. The track elevation is around 500 feet.
I have also found that the gas I am running, even from station to station, affects the performance a bit. Even though I am running 93 octane.
I believe the temp was 55-60 degrees when I ran the 14.715. The track elevation is around 500 feet.
I have also found that the gas I am running, even from station to station, affects the performance a bit. Even though I am running 93 octane.
12-26-2001, 08:18 AM
#92
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 14.44@95 - auto 2k2!
Originally posted by 2K2THEMAX
As I said in a previous post, the temperature was cold - most likely in the 40's, maybe low 50's. Also we Southern Maxima owners have an advantage because we are near the Gulf and have low altitude. I would say the altitude is 250-300 ft above sea level.
Daniel
As I said in a previous post, the temperature was cold - most likely in the 40's, maybe low 50's. Also we Southern Maxima owners have an advantage because we are near the Gulf and have low altitude. I would say the altitude is 250-300 ft above sea level.
Daniel
12-26-2001, 01:52 PM
#94
Originally posted by medicsonic
Like I have stated before, 14.2 is about the best you can hope for. I was directly behind you at the track Steve, and you had about the best launch you could have, so I really don't see where you can gain more than about .1 to .2 seconds.
Like I have stated before, 14.2 is about the best you can hope for. I was directly behind you at the track Steve, and you had about the best launch you could have, so I really don't see where you can gain more than about .1 to .2 seconds.
12-26-2001, 01:57 PM
#95
Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
yup i'd say about a 14.2 on a cold day like i had. i launched the car almost perfect. i could get the 60ft down maybe to 2.0X's with the tires iom getting in the spring but that's about it. hold the shift longer will get higher trap speeds and maybe a 14.2
yup i'd say about a 14.2 on a cold day like i had. i launched the car almost perfect. i could get the 60ft down maybe to 2.0X's with the tires iom getting in the spring but that's about it. hold the shift longer will get higher trap speeds and maybe a 14.2
12-26-2001, 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
.1 off your 60ft is .2 off yoru 1/4 mile time.. sides.. i think that got rice? .. jeff k... delos.. could get a 1.9 out of steve's car.. i mean if Aaron eeked out a 1.9 in his car.. why wouldn't a 1.9 be hard out of steves car.. especially on Drag Radials or something
.1 off your 60ft is .2 off yoru 1/4 mile time.. sides.. i think that got rice? .. jeff k... delos.. could get a 1.9 out of steve's car.. i mean if Aaron eeked out a 1.9 in his car.. why wouldn't a 1.9 be hard out of steves car.. especially on Drag Radials or something
12-26-2001, 02:50 PM
#98
Originally posted by PhatGuy
And....what if he does theblue method and takes out thr front seat, rear seats, spare etc.. 13's!!
And....what if he does theblue method and takes out thr front seat, rear seats, spare etc.. 13's!!
12-26-2001, 03:23 PM
#101
Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
1/4 tank or less. my car was track prepped and ready. i don't mess around. i even iced my intake plenum.
1/4 tank or less. my car was track prepped and ready. i don't mess around. i even iced my intake plenum.
12-26-2001, 03:41 PM
#102
Originally posted by Newman96SE
ah man, i was hoping you'd say full tank, left the spare in, and had some tools in your trunk so there would be easy room for improvement.
ah man, i was hoping you'd say full tank, left the spare in, and had some tools in your trunk so there would be easy room for improvement.
12-26-2001, 06:56 PM
#103
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
1/4 tank or less. my car was track prepped and ready. i don't mess around. i even iced my intake plenum.
1/4 tank or less. my car was track prepped and ready. i don't mess around. i even iced my intake plenum.
It always annoys me when guys say, "oh, but I had 80lbs of tools in my truck that I was too lazy to remove." Well tough sheeoot, you ran what you ran. Some things are within your control when racing at the track. You can remove weight, adjust tire pressure, ice the intake, etc. Don't make excuses.
Dave
12-26-2001, 08:07 PM
#104
Originally posted by Dave B
EXACTLY!!!!
It always annoys me when guys say, "oh, but I had 80lbs of tools in my truck that I was too lazy to remove." Well tough sheeoot, you ran what you ran. Some things are within your control when racing at the track. You can remove weight, adjust tire pressure, ice the intake, etc. Don't make excuses.
Dave
EXACTLY!!!!
It always annoys me when guys say, "oh, but I had 80lbs of tools in my truck that I was too lazy to remove." Well tough sheeoot, you ran what you ran. Some things are within your control when racing at the track. You can remove weight, adjust tire pressure, ice the intake, etc. Don't make excuses.
Dave
12-26-2001, 08:11 PM
#105
Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
exaclty i wanted no excuses. car was stripped tank was empty, tires were on 22psi, iced out intake. i controled what i could now if my fat as$ could lose some weight that might help. theblue is prolly 70lbs lighter then me. that helps too.
exaclty i wanted no excuses. car was stripped tank was empty, tires were on 22psi, iced out intake. i controled what i could now if my fat as$ could lose some weight that might help. theblue is prolly 70lbs lighter then me. that helps too.
12-26-2001, 08:25 PM
#106
Originally posted by SprintMax
and phuong and jeff k prolly 90 lbs lighter than you..
and phuong and jeff k prolly 90 lbs lighter than you..
12-27-2001, 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by d_98SE
Talking about tranny's is Acura making glass trannies.I am willing to bet that tranny is the most used word at acura-cl.com.
Talking about tranny's is Acura making glass trannies.I am willing to bet that tranny is the most used word at acura-cl.com.
Actually it's the most unused and apparently, the tranny problem is non existent to them. I'm in a huge debate with "Mike" The moderator over at over Acura.com forums. It seems everyone gets very testie when you even bring it up.
12-27-2001, 06:06 AM
#108
Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
prolly, i need to teach mattsy to drive my car he's gotta be about 135 lbs. almost 100lighter then me.
prolly, i need to teach mattsy to drive my car he's gotta be about 135 lbs. almost 100lighter then me.
and phuong got mad skillz.. you should see all his trophy from dragging the Z
12-28-2001, 05:20 AM
#111
Originally posted by motectransam
I am extremely impressed. Be careful with adding mods as the tranny will slip quickly over time and you'll wish you had your stock times. Also when you have more than 1 passenger refrain from back-back gunning it toi prolong tranny life. Finally, drop front tires pressures to 26psi in the front (will equil. to 24 psi by the time your make your run) and 47psi (will equil to 44psi). You will likely drop you 60 foots to the 2.10 range and considering where you are now you will shave another 0.15 seconds or be at 14.2s (stock LT1 automatic Z28 range!). Let me know...
motectransam
- 10/97 High Performance Pontiac: dad's stock 1996 Bonneville SE supercharged (only 3 years when the base model could get the S/C motor) ran 14.525@94.1 mph on 2.09 60 foot (stock tires) and full tank pump 93 octane.
I am extremely impressed. Be careful with adding mods as the tranny will slip quickly over time and you'll wish you had your stock times. Also when you have more than 1 passenger refrain from back-back gunning it toi prolong tranny life. Finally, drop front tires pressures to 26psi in the front (will equil. to 24 psi by the time your make your run) and 47psi (will equil to 44psi). You will likely drop you 60 foots to the 2.10 range and considering where you are now you will shave another 0.15 seconds or be at 14.2s (stock LT1 automatic Z28 range!). Let me know...
motectransam
- 10/97 High Performance Pontiac: dad's stock 1996 Bonneville SE supercharged (only 3 years when the base model could get the S/C motor) ran 14.525@94.1 mph on 2.09 60 foot (stock tires) and full tank pump 93 octane.
Yeah ok, stock Bonneville SE supercharged........
12-28-2001, 08:27 AM
#113
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OK - I don't have a scanner so I'm ripping off Ben's (mzmtg) timeslip when we raced and I ran a 14.50:
http://photos.onebigvillage.com/image.asp?id_=80464
BTW, he circled his 15.27, but I am "Gold" on the left.
http://photos.onebigvillage.com/image.asp?id_=80464
BTW, he circled his 15.27, but I am "Gold" on the left.
12-28-2001, 08:33 AM
#114
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12-28-2001, 08:48 AM
#115
Sweet times!
Btw, the above link just gives me a blank page.
Btw, the above link just gives me a blank page.
Originally posted by 2K2THEMAX
Here is my 14.44@95:
http://photos.onebigvillage.com/pubimage.asp?id_=83994
Here is my 14.44@95:
http://photos.onebigvillage.com/pubimage.asp?id_=83994
12-28-2001, 09:08 AM
#116
Originally posted by 2K2THEMAX
Here is my 14.44@95:
http://photos.onebigvillage.com/pubimage.asp?id_=83994
Here is my 14.44@95:
http://photos.onebigvillage.com/pubimage.asp?id_=83994
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....highlight=14.3
he was in the .9s on all 3 runs.
12-28-2001, 09:34 AM
#117
Originally posted by Newman96SE
is .522 an amazing reaction time or is dmbmaxima's reactiontime a little slow?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....highlight=14.3
he was in the .9s on all 3 runs.
is .522 an amazing reaction time or is dmbmaxima's reactiontime a little slow?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....highlight=14.3
he was in the .9s on all 3 runs.
12-28-2001, 04:13 PM
#120
Originally posted by medicsonic
They are fine, they have no bearing in the ET.
They are fine, they have no bearing in the ET.
yup .9's are a little slow but it was my first time dragging a stick and i was concerned about hooking up. in my old car i got consistent .5's and .6's but it was an auto.