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Old 12-21-2001, 08:42 PM
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14.44@95 - auto 2k2!

My automagic 2002 with K&N cone filter ran a 14.44@95 and had numerous runs in the 14.5's - proving very good consistency. It was a great night with 4 other maxima owners at the track (to verify the times) to have an Alabama track meet. I am getting an exhaust for my Christmas present to myself; hopefully I will be able to get a 14.2 Do you guys think it's possible?

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Re: 14.44@95 - auto 2k2!

VERY NICE RUN!!!

You make us automagics proud.
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The OTHER thread I made...
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Re: 14.44@95 - auto 2k2!

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My automagic 2002 with K&N cone filter ran a 14.44@95 and had numerous runs in the 14.5's - proving very good consistency. It was a great night with 4 other maxima owners at the track (to verify the times) to have an Alabama track meet. I am getting an exhaust for my Christmas present to myself; hopefully I will be able to get a 14.2 Do you guys think it's possible?

Peace,
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AWESOME times!! I am getting more and more impressed with auto's by the moment! A good cat-back exhaust system should nock off .1 - .2 tenths off your times.
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A 2001 Ford SVT F-150 does the 1/4th in about 13.8 stock....the fact that an AUTOmatic family sedan is only .6 off from that hot-road's time scares the outta me.
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I'm SO getting a automagic 2k2 Maxima or Altima (if they prove to be as quick). Congrats!!! What were your 60 foots? I trap out at 95mph+ in my 96 Max too, but I can only muster 14.7s due to my crap 60 foots (2.2X).


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I'm SO getting a automagic 2k2 Maxima or Altima (if they prove to be as quick). Congrats!!! What were your 60 foots? I trap out at 95mph+ in my 96 Max too, but I can only muster 14.7s due to my crap 60 foots (2.2X).


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Why would you get an automagic when a manual would be that much faster ?? Dave you are like the pro-5spder around here. Manual all the way for joo.
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Why would you get an automagic when a manual would be that much faster ?? Dave you are like the pro-5spder around here. Manual all the way for joo.
ya dave, you'd be deadly in a 6-spd.
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ya dave, you'd be deadly in a 6-spd.

Hey, how the hell did that guy get such good consistant times in his automagic that are only .1 slower that your 6-speed
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Re: WTF

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Hey, how the hell did that guy get such good consistant times in his automagic that are only .1 slower that your 6-speed d:

That gives Steve a new time to shoot for lol

This 14.4 run in a 2k2 automagic "GL-loaded-with-all-heavy-***-options-E" is saying that a 6 speed SE could very well be a 13 second stock car Oh man, these cars are monsters, i still haven't driven one, but i can't wait....
I think getting an auto isn't bad at all for a 2k2, it's powerful enough, it would make an absolutely great cruiser. If you are looking for a fast car for 25-30 grand, there are faster cars with more potential out there at the same price
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Re: WTF

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Hey, how the hell did that guy get such good consistant times in his automagic that are only .1 slower that your 6-speed
Steve will improve..








I hope.
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Steve will improve..








I hope. :wll:
Are you guys saying a Maxima could be in the 13's STOCK !?! Then why haven't any pro's achieved those times ?! If it could Im SURE we would be hearin' about it everywhere in mags !
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14.44 in a 2k2 auto
what would be the most significant reason for the auto times being so close to the 6 sp. (as compared to the previous year auto and the 5sp.) yeah, i'm sure the torque has a lot to do with it, but what else did they change from 2k1 to 2k2 on the auto tranny and did they change the 5sp. any (other than slapping another gear on)???????

it seems like nissan did a little more than make the tranny "stronger"-- maybe it's just the shift points????
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congrats on the new time! You are .1 behind the 6spd. Very good.

What are you 60fts?
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dang

that is flat out amazing, auto's are sounding good again..

you 6spd guys, get out there and hit some lower numbers!!
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I've driven the 2K2 SE Auto (2 SE's-Majestic Blue base, Gray Lustre fully loaded and a GLE- Majestic Blue w/Navi) three times so far and have been very impressed overall. I then tried a 2K2 3.5SE Altima ( Silver W/Black Leather, fully loaded), after getting over the disgusting tasteless- Nissan's answer to the Grand Am interior, I found that the car felt very similar to the 4th gen auto in terms of speed. The Maxima just had a lot more of a grunt and an agressive feel to it. Then yesterday I finally tried the 6 speed (Sterling Mist w/Black Leather, every option except Navi.) I did find it very fast and agressive and thought the gear box felt great. I found the clutch/tranny to be very forgiving compared to my 97SE 5 spd, making life much easier in heavy traffic or other situations. However, I didnt really feel that it was much faster than the Auto 2K2's that I've driven. (I was expecting a pretty big difference since supposedly the Auto does 0-60 in 6.8 and the 6 spd in around 6.0). Anyway, after trying the 6 spd, my final decision would definitely be a 2K2 SE Auto just because I live in NYC. Now if only I could get a dealership to lease it to me for 24 months instead of the 39 everyone insists on.



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Re: Re: Re: WTF

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Are you guys saying a Maxima could be in the 13's STOCK !?! Then why haven't any pro's achieved those times ?! If it could Im SURE we would be hearin' about it everywhere in mags !
Awesome times!



On another note, since when are journalists professional drivers? They drive a car for a day, maybe two, and probably make 2-4 runs down the track. You can't get used to a car that quickly. Journalists aren't professional drivers... they are just writers that happen to write about cars.

I can list off 10 people on this board who have SHATTERED magazine times with Maximas. Magazine times mean d!ck.
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Awesome times!



On another note, since when are journalists professional drivers? They drive a car for a day, maybe two, and probably make 2-4 runs down the track. You can't get used to a car that quickly. Journalists aren't professional drivers... they are just writers that happen to write about cars.

I can list off 10 people on this board who have SHATTERED magazine times with Maximas. Magazine times mean d!ck.


I was just going to bring that/YOU up..

Magazines aren't really accurate. What was the best time they tested a 5 speed 4th gen? 15.3? Nealoc should be a professional Nascar driver then, because he ran 14.8 stock. I think the magazines tested the 2k2 auto at 15.3 stock? now their record was shattered by almost a full second.
However, they are consistently inaccurate, so people can always expect the car to be a bit faster then it was posted in the mag
it could also be the theory that mags get production cars not fully tweaked yet, fully optioned = heavier and already beaten on quite a bit with worn clutches. but still... i believe a fellow member more then a magazine.
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That's insane... these 2k2 auto times just keep going lower! Congrats on the great run.
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15.3 was all they got out of a 2K2 Auto? The 2K2 Max gave me that pushed back in your seat feeling, something like a GS400 which is by all means a 14.3-14.5 1/4 mile car.

BTW, a K+N Cone Filter should only take off .1-.2 seconds off the 1/4 mile time at best?
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Originally posted by Weasel
That's insane... these 2k2 auto times just keep going lower! Congrats on the great run.
that's b/c the temperature also keeps going lower ... I doubt n e 1 will repeat these numbers in the spring &/or summer ... I'll eat my words if u can!!

does n e 1 know what the temp corrected times are for the 2k2?
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that's b/c the temperature also keeps going lower ... I doubt n e 1 will repeat these numbers in the spring &/or summer ... I'll eat my words if u can!!

does n e 1 know what the temp corrected times are for the 2k2?
I wouldn't look down on them just cause the air is cold though... I'd rather see that than corrected times in the summer. At least we know the people and the cars really ran these times. It's not just what they might be able to run.
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Originally posted by Weasel
I wouldn't look down on them just cause the air is cold though... I'd rather see that than corrected times in the summer.
hey bud .. not looking down @ n e 1 @ all ... ciao!
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Nice.

You don't happen to have the time slips do you?

I was wondering what track, and what your 60 ft's were.
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14 4's

Well I just went over 1500 miles on my 2k2Se(auto) so I'm going to start pressing it. I'm looking forward to seeing 14 4's too.
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yes i will improve. i was shifting early and i was a little nervous. also these 2k2 auto trannies semm to be WAY better than previous ones so don't expect to see the almost 1 sec gap in 1/4 miles. i'm think it will be around .5 or so now. all you autotragic guys don't get cocky though. line up with one on the highway and see what our magic gearing does to you
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Re: WTF

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Hey, how the hell did that guy get such good consistant times in his automagic that are only .1 slower that your 6-speed
Torque. As ETs get lower and lower, more and more drivers have automatics. Why? The average time it takes to shift is about ~.4 seconds. During the 0-1320 ft. event, in a 6 speed, that would mean that there would have to be 2 shifts (2-3 and 3-4). That's .8 seconds without any acceleration. In a car with any significant torque, an automatic can 'take advvantage' of that time loss, and close the gap between it and a manual transmission.
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
yes i will improve. i was shifting early and i was a little nervous. also these 2k2 auto trannies semm to be WAY better than previous ones so don't expect to see the almost 1 sec gap in 1/4 miles. i'm think it will be around .5 or so now. all you autotragic guys don't get cocky though. line up with one on the highway and see what our magic gearing does to you
Hmm, I don't want to insult you, but I don't think we are going to even see a .3 second difference. I'm thinking a 14.2 at best for the 6 speed.
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wow that fast for an auto i guess nissan finally made a good auto tranny for the max.....btw i think i fullu broken in 6speed with no options(lighter) will do 13.9-14.3 in the 1/4 mile
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hlh0501 ; is that an M5 behind your max!!!!!!! You are too lucky if it is! (Sorry this is off topic, but there is a Maxima behind his M5!) How can the 6sp possibly be only .3 faster than the auto?
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Here's a copy of my timeslip - I will have one online soon.

r/t---.522
60'---2.236
330---6.090
1/8---9.286
mph---77.23
1000--12.069
1/4---14.440
mph---95.00

That is with the spare and tools in the trunk with 1/3 tank of gas and on normal street 32psi tire pressure. The next time I run will be with an exhaust, so no more stock auto records Oh well, here I come 13's!!!


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Originally posted by 2K2THEMAX
Here's a copy of my timeslip - I will have one online soon.

r/t---.522
60'---2.236
330---6.090
1/8---9.286
mph---77.23
1000--12.069
1/4---14.440
mph---95.00

That is with the spare and tools in the trunk with 1/3 tank of gas and on normal street 32psi tire pressure. The next time I run will be with an exhaust, so no more stock auto records Oh well, here I come 13's!!!

Daniel
Good deal!!

I am hoping to drop our 97 SE 5 speed into the low 14.3-14.4's with a Y-Pipe.

I am going to run our 95 SHO 5 speed first though, maybe the same night, to get some times on it before it receives a Vortech kit. I am hoping its already in the low 14's.

As it stands now our SHO leaves our Maxima behind very noticably.

When I ran the 14.715 I did it with nothing removed, and quite a few extras in the car, we have kids. I thought with a little better gas and no head wind a 14.6 would have been possible, but who am I to complain, 14.7 is great for a stock 4th Gen.

I knew the 2002's were fast, but that is really quick for an auto!! I thought the 02 auto I drove felt a little faster than my 5 speed. I still think a 6 speed will hit 13.9 with a good driver, time will tell.
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Hmm, I don't want to insult you, but I don't think we are going to even see a .3 second difference. I'm thinking a 14.2 at best for the 6 speed.
i think we will se 14.1's for a 6-spd and that 14.44 was with a cone. i think .5 will be the average with a good driver.
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I am extremely impressed. Be careful with adding mods as the tranny will slip quickly over time and you'll wish you had your stock times. Also when you have more than 1 passenger refrain from back-back gunning it toi prolong tranny life. Finally, drop front tires pressures to 26psi in the front (will equil. to 24 psi by the time your make your run) and 47psi (will equil to 44psi). You will likely drop you 60 foots to the 2.10 range and considering where you are now you will shave another 0.15 seconds or be at 14.2s (stock LT1 automatic Z28 range!). Let me know...

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MedicSonic,

You are right in everyway, shape and form. Automagics rule
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Nice run! Seasons greetings to all and may the new year bring faster ET's!
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Simply amazing that it ran 14.4 with 2.2+ 60'!!
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my 14.73 run had a 2.188 sec 60', my 14.6 run had a 2.117 60'
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Damn the '02 autos (with 33 more hp and 29 more lb-ft of torque than the 00-01's) are pulling 1 sec faster times. Damn I am mezmerized by this. That extra power made a hell or a difference.
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