Whos Interested in a Turbo Kit
#1
Whos Interested in a Turbo Kit
Im working on a turbo kit as we speak.
Two stages:
Stage 1-
Custom Manderal Bent Manafold
T3/T4 Turbo
All Piping
All Mounting Hardware
Turbo Timer
Super AFC
Fuel Pressure Regulator
Lager Injectors
Custom Fuel Rail ( still thinking about this one)
Waste Gate
Stage 2-
All of the above
8.5:1 compression pistons from JE
Also a down pipe will be included which will end up right where the stock y-pipe would end so no exhaust mods will be needed from cat back unless you have stock exhaust then i suggest a min of 2.5 if not 3inch
With the stage two you will be able to put up to 20 psi to the motor, ive spoke with je they said our botom ends will hold up to 25 safely with 8.5:1 pistons also this helps with detonation at high pressure and rpms. Not sure on price yet but some where in the $2000 range for stage 1 and 3000$ for stage 2. If anyone is interested in just the pistons for the SC max let me know there 790 a set with rings but i think if i tell them more people are interested they might cut us a break.
Bruce
chessieone@yahoo.com
Two stages:
Stage 1-
Custom Manderal Bent Manafold
T3/T4 Turbo
All Piping
All Mounting Hardware
Turbo Timer
Super AFC
Fuel Pressure Regulator
Lager Injectors
Custom Fuel Rail ( still thinking about this one)
Waste Gate
Stage 2-
All of the above
8.5:1 compression pistons from JE
Also a down pipe will be included which will end up right where the stock y-pipe would end so no exhaust mods will be needed from cat back unless you have stock exhaust then i suggest a min of 2.5 if not 3inch
With the stage two you will be able to put up to 20 psi to the motor, ive spoke with je they said our botom ends will hold up to 25 safely with 8.5:1 pistons also this helps with detonation at high pressure and rpms. Not sure on price yet but some where in the $2000 range for stage 1 and 3000$ for stage 2. If anyone is interested in just the pistons for the SC max let me know there 790 a set with rings but i think if i tell them more people are interested they might cut us a break.
Bruce
chessieone@yahoo.com
#2
I saw your post about the intake for the 5th gens good job, yes we need a turbo kit, even though someone else was going to do the same operation, just make one also so that we can have something to choose from
#3
Originally posted by gtr_rider
I saw your post about the intake for the 5th gens good job, yes we need a turbo kit, even though someone else was going to do the same operation, just make one also so that we can have something to choose from
I saw your post about the intake for the 5th gens good job, yes we need a turbo kit, even though someone else was going to do the same operation, just make one also so that we can have something to choose from
Bruce
#4
No prob for me go right ahead, that should be fun, how much do you think the HP outcome would be and the PSI this thing should run at? Also would this be just a bolt on kit or a 48hour long install like another brand does *cough*stealin*cough*
#6
Originally posted by PATRICK94SE
If you could guarantee a VE turbo kit I or probably
most 3rd gen owners would find a way to get you a set of manifolds
If you could guarantee a VE turbo kit I or probably
most 3rd gen owners would find a way to get you a set of manifolds
Bruce
#7
Originally posted by gtr_rider
No prob for me go right ahead, that should be fun, how much do you think the HP outcome would be and the PSI this thing should run at? Also would this be just a bolt on kit or a 48hour long install like another brand does *cough*stealin*cough*
No prob for me go right ahead, that should be fun, how much do you think the HP outcome would be and the PSI this thing should run at? Also would this be just a bolt on kit or a 48hour long install like another brand does *cough*stealin*cough*
Stage 1: Depends on other mods
5 psi - 235-250
10 psi - 245-260
15 psi - 260-290
Stage 2:
5 psi - 235-255
10 psi - 250-270
15 psi - 275-315
20 psi - 325-370
See with turbo exhaust comes in to play, so the #'s could be drastically different.
Bruce
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Re: Whos Interested in a Turbo Kit
Originally posted by papasmurf
Im working on a turbo kit as we speak.
Two stages:
Stage 1-
Custom Manderal Bent Manafold
T3/T4 Turbo
All Piping
All Mounting Hardware
Turbo Timer
Super AFC
Fuel Pressure Regulator
Lager Injectors
Custom Fuel Rail ( still thinking about this one)
Waste Gate
Stage 2-
All of the above
8.5:1 compression pistons from JE
With the stage two you will be able to put up to 20 psi to the motor, ive spoke with je they said our botom ends will hold up to 25 safely with 8.5:1 pistons also this helps with detonation at high pressure and rpms. Not sure on price yet but some where in the $2000 range for stage 1 and 3000$ for stage 2. If anyone is interested in just the pistons for the SC max let me know there 790 a set with rings but i think if i tell them more people are interested they might cut us a break.
Bruce
chessieone@yahoo.com
Im working on a turbo kit as we speak.
Two stages:
Stage 1-
Custom Manderal Bent Manafold
T3/T4 Turbo
All Piping
All Mounting Hardware
Turbo Timer
Super AFC
Fuel Pressure Regulator
Lager Injectors
Custom Fuel Rail ( still thinking about this one)
Waste Gate
Stage 2-
All of the above
8.5:1 compression pistons from JE
With the stage two you will be able to put up to 20 psi to the motor, ive spoke with je they said our botom ends will hold up to 25 safely with 8.5:1 pistons also this helps with detonation at high pressure and rpms. Not sure on price yet but some where in the $2000 range for stage 1 and 3000$ for stage 2. If anyone is interested in just the pistons for the SC max let me know there 790 a set with rings but i think if i tell them more people are interested they might cut us a break.
Bruce
chessieone@yahoo.com
injectors $600+
AFC $310
Turbo $400+
wastegate $150+
fuel press regulator $120+
turbo timer $70+
fuel pump $120+
turbo manifold $$$? dont know..and its not needed
thats like 2k already. doesnt leave much room for intercooler, piping, oil lines, and other misc stuff that might be needed. i bet installtion would take longer then the Stillen supercharger too.
i doubt the motor will hold up to 20psi with only pistons. the rods or head gasket will prolly give way. Then the cooling system goes byebye. well thats enough negativity on this for today...later, happy new year.
#10
Re: Re: Whos Interested in a Turbo Kit
Originally posted by Turbo95Max
wow, 2k or 3k for a turbo kit? sounds like hell of a deal. does that include installation? parts alone would cost about that much if not more so hop on this deal if its really true. will automatic kits be same as manual kits? i bet the auto will be harder and more expensive to do
injectors $600+
AFC $310
Turbo $400+
wastegate $150+
fuel press regulator $120+
turbo timer $70+
fuel pump $120+
turbo manifold $$$? dont know..and its not needed
thats like 2k already. doesnt leave much room for intercooler, piping, oil lines, and other misc stuff that might be needed. i bet installtion would take longer then the Stillen supercharger too.
i doubt the motor will hold up to 20psi with only pistons. the rods or head gasket will prolly give way. Then the cooling system goes byebye. well thats enough negativity on this for today...later, happy new year.
wow, 2k or 3k for a turbo kit? sounds like hell of a deal. does that include installation? parts alone would cost about that much if not more so hop on this deal if its really true. will automatic kits be same as manual kits? i bet the auto will be harder and more expensive to do
injectors $600+
AFC $310
Turbo $400+
wastegate $150+
fuel press regulator $120+
turbo timer $70+
fuel pump $120+
turbo manifold $$$? dont know..and its not needed
thats like 2k already. doesnt leave much room for intercooler, piping, oil lines, and other misc stuff that might be needed. i bet installtion would take longer then the Stillen supercharger too.
i doubt the motor will hold up to 20psi with only pistons. the rods or head gasket will prolly give way. Then the cooling system goes byebye. well thats enough negativity on this for today...later, happy new year.
Bruce
#11
Re: You are in the DC metro area right?
Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
What shop is building the kit?
What shop is building the kit?
Me and a couple of mechanics from various shops along with J/P performance who is doing the maifold
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Re: Re: Re: Whos Interested in a Turbo Kit
Originally posted by papasmurf
Well where do we start, man and auto kits will be about the same im not anticipating any diff in price. Second i have a wholesalers/resalers licence so i get all those things at cost which are way cheaper. also im going to sell the kit to you all for what it cost to make im not in it for the money im in it for the hp's. As for intercooler your on your own just like the Stillen SC thats on you, Install time should be 8-12 hrs depending on mechanical inclanation, but im not real sure yet. As for the motor i talked with the guys from je they said 20 psi no prob with stock internals and upraded pistons, figure your going to put in new gasket anyways so. They said they have a 300z twin tird with 26 psi with only pistons and stock internals and its puching 500 hp with other mods. And 300z and our cars share same internals. So any other questions
Bruce
Well where do we start, man and auto kits will be about the same im not anticipating any diff in price. Second i have a wholesalers/resalers licence so i get all those things at cost which are way cheaper. also im going to sell the kit to you all for what it cost to make im not in it for the money im in it for the hp's. As for intercooler your on your own just like the Stillen SC thats on you, Install time should be 8-12 hrs depending on mechanical inclanation, but im not real sure yet. As for the motor i talked with the guys from je they said 20 psi no prob with stock internals and upraded pistons, figure your going to put in new gasket anyways so. They said they have a 300z twin tird with 26 psi with only pistons and stock internals and its puching 500 hp with other mods. And 300z and our cars share same internals. So any other questions
Bruce
When you boost on a blower you dont get detonation as easy as with a turbo. If your selling a kit for more then 10psi with no intercooler your gonna have probs. Even alot of these parts at cost itll cost more then 2k. My turbo build cost more then 4k in parts alone at COST. where you gonna tap the oil feed and return lines? Where will the turbo be mounted? do you have to hack any of the fans off or not? its a bit more complicated then you think. But youll figure that out later..
if you do get custom fuel rail and head gasket done. Id be interested in that cause i couldnt get any companies to make that for me. thanks
#13
These #'s and parts list is all preliminary
hey i know what your saying there is still alot of bugs to be worked out but the intercoller thing is going to come in later we have to figure out exactly how this thing is going to run first but hey i under stand what your saying just work with me ok, some of the things i said are repeted from the guys at je so dont jump down my throat for there stupidity.
Bruce
Bruce
#14
I hope this works out, but I have seen several threads in the past where people had plans for a cheap turbo/super charger and they never came through. I know theroretically (sp?) how a turbo works, but very little about how it fits into a car, so a few questions.
Would this replace the stock (or aftermarket) y-pipe?
Would this replace the intake (ie CAI, Pop charger, etc)?
If yes to the above that's about $500 in other mods you would not have to do, so at ~$2000 it's only $1500 over Ypipe/intake.
Also, isn't access to the rear manifold a major problem with a turbo kit?
What would be the difference in the psi/HP ratings of the stage one kit (cost/ reliability/ MPG/ noise/ something else)?
Would this have a major effect on reliability, miledge, or anything else for a daily driver?
I hope this does work out, if it does and the price is about $2000 I will definatly consider it, particularlly since I have not bought a y-pipe or intake yet.
Would this replace the stock (or aftermarket) y-pipe?
Would this replace the intake (ie CAI, Pop charger, etc)?
If yes to the above that's about $500 in other mods you would not have to do, so at ~$2000 it's only $1500 over Ypipe/intake.
Also, isn't access to the rear manifold a major problem with a turbo kit?
What would be the difference in the psi/HP ratings of the stage one kit (cost/ reliability/ MPG/ noise/ something else)?
Would this have a major effect on reliability, miledge, or anything else for a daily driver?
I hope this does work out, if it does and the price is about $2000 I will definatly consider it, particularlly since I have not bought a y-pipe or intake yet.
#15
If A 10 psi/ 250 (flywheel) HP kit can be made for ~$2000 I would still be interested. I don't want the ultimate Max, but having the fastest Max in town would be cool (except maybe those damn 3.5s). But I would only be interested if it was reliable, I would not buy it until it had been proven. While I would love to see this I doubt it will happen, good luck.
#17
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
No Aftermarket part is reliable as OE. If you want to wait one year for it to be proved...yo its ok....if you wanna be the reliability factor aka the G-Pig...yo its ok.
No Aftermarket part is reliable as OE. If you want to wait one year for it to be proved...yo its ok....if you wanna be the reliability factor aka the G-Pig...yo its ok.
#18
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Start screwing w/ a motor w/ forced induction...be prepared to make a motor sacrifice in a worst-case-scenario.
Then this turbo is not for you...
Start screwing w/ a motor w/ forced induction...be prepared to make a motor sacrifice in a worst-case-scenario.
Then this turbo is not for you...
#19
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Start screwing w/ a motor w/ forced induction...be prepared to make a motor sacrifice in a worst-case-scenario.
Then this turbo is not for you...
Start screwing w/ a motor w/ forced induction...be prepared to make a motor sacrifice in a worst-case-scenario.
Then this turbo is not for you...
#20
I think it makes more sense to work on the variable intake first. since it is nissan OE it should not have a negative effect on mileage or reliability. with the variable one and bolt-on's you would be looking at close to a 50-60 hp increase for about half the price of a s/c and very few reliability or driveability problems.
#21
I could have sworn this thread "who is interested in a turbo kit"? for some reason.. the title must have changed to .. "how do you make a turbo kit and can i do it for under 3k"?
no one asked for all your 2 cents..
just fu@king answer yes or no.. no one asked you for a fu@cking essay
no one asked for all your 2 cents..
just fu@king answer yes or no.. no one asked you for a fu@cking essay
#23
Originally posted by SprintMax
I could have sworn this thread "who is interested in a turbo kit"? for some reason.. the title must have changed to .. "how do you make a turbo kit and can i do it for under 3k"?
no one asked for all your 2 cents..
just fu@king answer yes or no.. no one asked you for a fu@cking essay
I could have sworn this thread "who is interested in a turbo kit"? for some reason.. the title must have changed to .. "how do you make a turbo kit and can i do it for under 3k"?
no one asked for all your 2 cents..
just fu@king answer yes or no.. no one asked you for a fu@cking essay
obviously a whole bunch of people are interested in getting a turbo kit. it just so happens that some people have tried it already and they are sharing their concerns and where their projects ran into trouble.
#24
no one asked them for their opinions.. and if he did post a poll.. you think the same comments wouldn't be in the thread?
Originally posted by dko
if he was looking for yes or no it should have been a poll. How 'bout I start a thread like this "Who wants a free V1 installed".
obviously a whole bunch of people are interested in getting a turbo kit. it just so happens that some people have tried it already and they are sharing their concerns and where their projects ran into trouble.
if he was looking for yes or no it should have been a poll. How 'bout I start a thread like this "Who wants a free V1 installed".
obviously a whole bunch of people are interested in getting a turbo kit. it just so happens that some people have tried it already and they are sharing their concerns and where their projects ran into trouble.
#25
Originally posted by SprintMax
no one asked them for their opinions.. and if he did post a poll.. you think the same comments wouldn't be in the thread?
no one asked them for their opinions.. and if he did post a poll.. you think the same comments wouldn't be in the thread?
#26
I have 2 questions
I love the idea of turbocharging my Maxi-pad. I have 2 questions for you.
1)I heard automatics are better for turbo's than 5spds off the line. (Brake boosting). How does this work ?
2)Turbo lag = No fun. Will your kit have an electronic motor power assist to spool up the turbine prior to the exhaust spooling it up ? That way the lag is like eliminated, and we could get low end power as well ?
1)I heard automatics are better for turbo's than 5spds off the line. (Brake boosting). How does this work ?
2)Turbo lag = No fun. Will your kit have an electronic motor power assist to spool up the turbine prior to the exhaust spooling it up ? That way the lag is like eliminated, and we could get low end power as well ?
#27
Or Better Yet...
Originally posted by Craig Mack
2)Turbo lag = No fun. Will your kit have an electronic motor power assist to spool up the turbine prior to the exhaust spooling it up ? That way the lag is like eliminated, and we could get low end power as well ?
2)Turbo lag = No fun. Will your kit have an electronic motor power assist to spool up the turbine prior to the exhaust spooling it up ? That way the lag is like eliminated, and we could get low end power as well ?
-Cyrus
#28
Re: Or Better Yet...
Originally posted by Vyrus
Why not make a sequential twin turbo? Like the MKIV Supras had? That way there is no lag and mad power throughout the whole powerband?
-Cyrus
Why not make a sequential twin turbo? Like the MKIV Supras had? That way there is no lag and mad power throughout the whole powerband?
-Cyrus
#29
Not quite, but I get the point...
Originally posted by Craig Mack
Well Cyrus becuase the money spent on that little toy would defeat the whole purpose of getting anything but a supra to begin with .
Well Cyrus becuase the money spent on that little toy would defeat the whole purpose of getting anything but a supra to begin with .
-Cyrus
#30
Re: Not quite, but I get the point...
Originally posted by Vyrus
It wouldn't cost that much Craig, probably $10k-$12k , but you would have MAD power (probably as much if not MORE than the Supra). Not to mention the fact that you would be a TWIN-TURBO Maxima. Let's see, what other cars are twin-turbos...300ZX, RX-7, Supra, S4...get my drift?
-Cyrus
It wouldn't cost that much Craig, probably $10k-$12k , but you would have MAD power (probably as much if not MORE than the Supra). Not to mention the fact that you would be a TWIN-TURBO Maxima. Let's see, what other cars are twin-turbos...300ZX, RX-7, Supra, S4...get my drift?
-Cyrus
#31
Originally posted by papasmurf
If you could guarantee me a set of manifolds of a ve then everything else is the same so then yes i could guarentee you a turbo kit for third gens too.
If you could guarantee me a set of manifolds of a ve then everything else is the same so then yes i could guarentee you a turbo kit for third gens too.
#32
Re: Re: Not quite, but I get the point...
Originally posted by Craig Mack
I am a poor @ss youngin' like jOo who is fortunate enough to even be driving a car like a 4th Gen. Maxima. Get my drift ?
I am a poor @ss youngin' like jOo who is fortunate enough to even be driving a car like a 4th Gen. Maxima. Get my drift ?
-Cyrus
#33
Re: I have 2 questions
Originally posted by Craig Mack
2)Turbo lag = No fun. Will your kit have an electronic motor power assist to spool up the turbine prior to the exhaust spooling it up ? That way the lag is like eliminated, and we could get low end power as well ?
2)Turbo lag = No fun. Will your kit have an electronic motor power assist to spool up the turbine prior to the exhaust spooling it up ? That way the lag is like eliminated, and we could get low end power as well ?
#37
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I've got tons of other **** on this too..
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#39
Really? Anything I can use? hehe
Originally posted by Maximamike
BTW, need some manifold ideas?
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BTW, need some manifold ideas?
http://members.aol.com/ideapage/poston/86exhaust.GIF
I've got tons of other **** on this too..