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Old 11-05-2019, 08:19 PM
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Fine mist of PERMANENT crap all over my car!!!

Third time I'm trying to post this, because adding pictures keeps deleting the whole post lol. So I'll just put my imgur album link.

Anyway, my car is covered is some fine mist of crap and I don't know where it came from or how it got there. But it is NOT coming off. I noticed it a couple weeks ago, driving home from work, into the sunset, my windshield was dirty. Tried to clean it with the wipers, it didn't come off. I got home, tried to wipe it with a rag, no luck. Tried to scrub it with a brush, no luck. The only way I could get even a small spot clean with with some actual polishing compound and some good rubbing for a few minutes.

From a few feet away, you really can't see it, the car looks fine. But it feels like sandpaper all over the car. And if you get really close, you can see a fine mist of tiny rust colored dots all over the car. On the front there are some large droplets that you can easily see. They just look like muddy water or rust. But it will not come off. I've tried a clay bar, it took off a few tiny bits, but didn't even make a dent. I am literally going to have to remove clear coat to get this stuff off. I was able to get my front right fender pretty clean and smooth by polishing with some light polishing compound and light pad on my harbor freight DA polisher. But it still did not remove the larger spots, which I had to go at by hand. I bought a slightly rougher pad, and am going to go at the whole car this weekend.

I really don't know what else to try. I wish I knew what caused this so I could sue the bastard that did it or leaked on the freeway or whatever. Weird thing is, those large droplets on the front don't look like they came from freeway speeds. They look like they're dripping down. So I think it came while parked somewhere, I just don't know where. I work at a data center, and there was no construction going on around it that I know of. Not looking for answers, unless you have some miracle solution. Just wanted to gripe I guess. I was not planning on polishing the car anytime soon, I hate the thought of removing clear coat for no reason and shortening the life span of my paint. Here is the link to the imgur album where I have some pics:

https://imgur.com/gallery/GHlrotg


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Old 11-05-2019, 08:44 PM
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Before you **** up your paint, talk to a paint specialist and/or detailer and/or body shop. I'm sure they've encountered stubborn spots such as yours many times. I'm surprised the clay bar didn't remove the spots.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Before you **** up your paint, talk to a paint specialist and/or detailer and/or body shop. I'm sure they've encountered stubborn spots such as yours many times. I'm surprised the clay bar didn't remove the spots.
Good point. I'll try to get it to a shop and see what they say before I do anything. Yeah I was really thinking the clay bar would pull some off. This stuff is literally like paint on there.
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:26 AM
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Could this possibly be tree sap? That stuff is a PITA to remove once it adheres to paint. Possible to get off, but a real pain. My other guess would be perhaps you drove through areas that were performing road work, and some of the debris latched onto your paint.
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Old 11-07-2019, 05:11 AM
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Concrete dust that got wet...then cured...that's my guess.
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Old 11-07-2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 03_GLE
Could this possibly be tree sap? That stuff is a PITA to remove once it adheres to paint. Possible to get off, but a real pain. My other guess would be perhaps you drove through areas that were performing road work, and some of the debris latched onto your paint.
No, definitely not tree sap. it's not sticky, or even raised at all. It is pretty flat. And I don't ever park near any trees that put off sap. Also most of it is such a fine mist you can't even see it. You can only feel it. In my experience, tree sap will be in more defined clumps.

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Concrete dust that got wet...then cured...that's my guess.
Could be, however the color doesn't seem right, and it seems that would come off easier than this.
Edit: I do realize that concrete can be different colors. However, nobody else at my work has any of this stuff on their cars, so if there were projects going on there, it would be on someone else's car as well. And I park in the garage at home. More than likely seems it happened on the freeway or something.


But to give a little update, I took it to a detailer yesterday to have them check it out. They think it is some over-spray from a water based paint of some sort. The guy was real nice, took a good 20 minutes to try a few different solutions and solvents with me. Eventually what was able to remove some was a citrus de-greaser or goof off. Still takes quite a bit of elbow grease, but it is coming off with that. Which is good, much better than polishing the whole car in my opinion. Very cool guy, didn't charge me at all. So I know what I'm going to be doing this weekend. Gonna spend a whole day cleaning this crap off, then giving it a good wax lol. Interesting though, when I got home and tried some of the goo-gone I had in the cupboard, it seemed to work on the paint, but had a very hard time taking it off of the glass. Luckily I'm not as worried about the glass. I can polish that if needed, and get a little rougher with it than the paint.

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Old 11-07-2019, 09:19 AM
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Just use a razor blade with some water on the surface for the windshield. No effort at all really, water is there as a failsafe, helps prevent fine scratches, and just be gentle, with the right angle. ALso, has to be said, make sure it's a brand new razor, don't use something dull or dinged, again that could scratch the glass.
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Old 11-07-2019, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MadMax07SL
Just use a razor blade with some water on the surface for the windshield. No effort at all really, water is there as a failsafe, helps prevent fine scratches, and just be gentle, with the right angle. ALso, has to be said, make sure it's a brand new razor, don't use something dull or dinged, again that could scratch the glass.
Oh duh, don't know why I didn't think of using a razor on the glass! Thanks.
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Old 11-07-2019, 07:15 PM
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What clay bar did you use? If you used one from the local parts store it may not be enough. There is a product called Clay magic that has different color for different need. I normally use the blue but they make a red that is for more resistant spots that need a little more grit. Be careful with it as it will scratch the paint but should take off anything. The only other thing that I have used it Chemical Guys makes a Decon Iron that can be used on all painted surfaces. I use on my wheels and it works great.
Hope this helps cause buffing the whole car sucks!
Oh on your windows use 0000 steal wool and glass cleaner. Works great and no chance of scratching anything.
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by white11max
What clay bar did you use? If you used one from the local parts store it may not be enough. There is a product called Clay magic that has different color for different need. I normally use the blue but they make a red that is for more resistant spots that need a little more grit. Be careful with it as it will scratch the paint but should take off anything. The only other thing that I have used it Chemical Guys makes a Decon Iron that can be used on all painted surfaces. I use on my wheels and it works great.
Hope this helps cause buffing the whole car sucks!
Oh on your windows use 0000 steal wool and glass cleaner. Works great and no chance of scratching anything.
I used a Maguiars white bar. Honestly this stuff is on there good. The guy I took it to tried multiple methods and solutions, including a clay bar, before he found that a citrus degreaser was getting off with quite a bit of elbow grease. I'm even thinking the razor blade on the windshield might not cut it. But we'll see. I haven't had a second to work on it, gonna have to be tomorrow.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:10 AM
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Update:

ALL HAIL GOOF OFF!

The detailer I took it to tried some goof off and it seemed to work pretty well. But he said goo gone should work even better, although he didn't have any at the time. But I had some at home so that is what I tried first this morning. But I was having to scrub and scrub very hard to get it to come off. One little spot took forever to scrub off with goo gone.

So I ran to the store and got some goof off, figured it couldn't hurt to try. It was like night and day! With the goo gone, it was working better if I let it sit for a few minutes first, but even then took quite a bit of scrubbing. With the goof off, I just applied it to the cloth, and then wiped. I mean it didn't come right off, but it came off with MUCH more ease. Pretty much just a good wipe down of the whole car with goof off and that did it. I noticed it only worked well if my rag was really soaked with the stuff. So I would spray the rag real good and do a small patch. Then wipe that off with a wet rag (not sure how good it is to leave that stuff on for long), and then soak my rag with goof off again. Oh and it took it off the glass just as good.

Anyway, I just finished the whole car. Now about to go give it a good wax. Thanks again for all the suggestions.

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Old 11-09-2019, 11:16 AM
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Awesome. Glad you got it figured out.
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