Audi A4 vs 4th Gen Maxima
#1
Today we GTECHed a Audi A4 5 speed with chip and full exhaust and some other mods. I think he had an intake too. My friend ran a 15.4x with a 93mph trap. I got in the car.. I'm about 50lbs lighter.. =) 1st run.. Okay launch.. AWD is hard to get a perfect launch.. at least while being kinda nice to the clutch. I ran a 15.24@96.7mph. Next run.. I rev it to 3.3K RPM and hang the clutch.. PERFECT launch. Slight squeal of tire and the car just launches.. In my excitement.. I miss the 1-2 shift.. Run over.. My last run.. 3.3krpm again.. But I dropped the clutch too fast and bogged it pretty bad.. Lucky the small turbo spooled anyways and we were off.. 15.4@9xx mph. Last week I ran my 97SE auto at the same spot under almost identical conditions maybe even warmer.. And I ran a 14.89@97mph. I would beat the A4 to the 1/4 mile.. But I think he would eventually walk me higher up. I think you 5-speed guys will take the A4 pretty easy though.
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#2
You ran a 14.89@97mph. with your auto? That's not bad for an auto. What kind of mods do you have? And how you launch your car? Do you manually shift it? That's how I do it when I race. I really wonder would it be faster to manually shift it, or just leave it in D?
#3
That sounds about right for an A4 1.8Tq. The most horsepower that the tiny K03 turbocharger will make is 200hp, even with intake, ECU, and exhaust. Plus, the car weighs a lot more than the 4th-gen Maxima, so the Maxima has the power/weight ratio advantage. Now, if your friend upgrades to a K04, look out! The sky's the limit.
[Edited by Micah95GLE on 11-19-2000 at 10:30 AM]
[Edited by Micah95GLE on 11-19-2000 at 10:30 AM]
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is the Audi 1.8T or 2.8?
I'm assuming when you said turbo it's a 1.8. I don't think I'd buy one but I like the looks of the Audis, especially the A6 8-cyl. I got to wait because I hate wasting money, but when my 4th gen is 4 years old I'm going to plunk down the coyne for something German no if ands or buts. Japanese build nice cars no doubt, and they have terrific value for the buck, but they just don't drive the same (nor do they have the same snob appeal haha).
#5
No no, those are GTECH #s. I think they are optimistic. And the cooler weather is a factor. I don't think I would run much faster than 15.4-15.5 at a track. As for launch. I put the car in one. Blipped the gas and let go of the brake at the same time. But my car was vicious that night for some reason. It chirped 2nd gear. Probably the 30 degree weather. You can read about that GTECH run here..
https://maxima.org/forums/showthread...?threadid=9286
My mods are.. Yokohama AVID V4 tires, Stillen Y, JWT Intake, RSB, FSTB, Hayden 403 tranny cooler. And some other odds and ends. Not very much.
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https://maxima.org/forums/showthread...?threadid=9286
My mods are.. Yokohama AVID V4 tires, Stillen Y, JWT Intake, RSB, FSTB, Hayden 403 tranny cooler. And some other odds and ends. Not very much.
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Originally posted by Cumalot
You ran a 14.89@97mph. with your auto? That's not bad for an auto. What kind of mods do you have? And how you launch your car? Do you manually shift it? That's how I do it when I race. I really wonder would it be faster to manually shift it, or just leave it in D?
You ran a 14.89@97mph. with your auto? That's not bad for an auto. What kind of mods do you have? And how you launch your car? Do you manually shift it? That's how I do it when I race. I really wonder would it be faster to manually shift it, or just leave it in D?
#6
Re: is the Audi 1.8T or 2.8?
Its a 1.8T. And there is nothing like German interior. That car is beautiful inside. I think he has the highest interior package though. Car probably costed over 30k. For the money the A4 1.8T is a lot of car.
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Originally posted by Johnny
I'm assuming when you said turbo it's a 1.8. I don't think I'd buy one but I like the looks of the Audis, especially the A6 8-cyl. I got to wait because I hate wasting money, but when my 4th gen is 4 years old I'm going to plunk down the coyne for something German no if ands or buts. Japanese build nice cars no doubt, and they have terrific value for the buck, but they just don't drive the same (nor do they have the same snob appeal haha).
I'm assuming when you said turbo it's a 1.8. I don't think I'd buy one but I like the looks of the Audis, especially the A6 8-cyl. I got to wait because I hate wasting money, but when my 4th gen is 4 years old I'm going to plunk down the coyne for something German no if ands or buts. Japanese build nice cars no doubt, and they have terrific value for the buck, but they just don't drive the same (nor do they have the same snob appeal haha).
#7
Some Audi people claim the 1.8t with its stock turbo can make more than 200hp. Maybe with some additional electronics. I was very surprised with the A4s trap speed.
Lots of high end. I didn't expect that. I think the car could have went faster. My friend really doesn't drive the car hard. He doesn't know where his raised revlimiter is. When I missed the 1-2 shift.. That thing reved way into the red. Probably 7200rpm or so. And it still didn't hit a limiter. I was shifting into the red already because I knew the rev limiter was raised. The red starts at 6000rpm in the 1.8T and I was shifting around 6700. So say the rev limiter is really at 7500.. I could have shifted at 7200 and maybe gotten better times. But the car is fast and nice.. No doubt.
But I spent less than 400 dollars on my go fast mods.. He has spent way more.. Wonder how it would be on the highway.. ![Wink](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Lots of high end. I didn't expect that. I think the car could have went faster. My friend really doesn't drive the car hard. He doesn't know where his raised revlimiter is. When I missed the 1-2 shift.. That thing reved way into the red. Probably 7200rpm or so. And it still didn't hit a limiter. I was shifting into the red already because I knew the rev limiter was raised. The red starts at 6000rpm in the 1.8T and I was shifting around 6700. So say the rev limiter is really at 7500.. I could have shifted at 7200 and maybe gotten better times. But the car is fast and nice.. No doubt.
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Originally posted by Micah95GLE
That sounds about right for an A4 1.8Tq. The most horsepower that the tiny K03 turbocharger will make is 200hp, even with intake, ECU, and exhaust. Plus, the car weighs a lot more than the 4th-gen Maxima, so the Maxima has the power/weight ratio advantage. Now, if your friend upgrades to a K04, look out! The sky's the limit.
[Edited by Micah95GLE on 11-19-2000 at 10:30 AM]
That sounds about right for an A4 1.8Tq. The most horsepower that the tiny K03 turbocharger will make is 200hp, even with intake, ECU, and exhaust. Plus, the car weighs a lot more than the 4th-gen Maxima, so the Maxima has the power/weight ratio advantage. Now, if your friend upgrades to a K04, look out! The sky's the limit.
[Edited by Micah95GLE on 11-19-2000 at 10:30 AM]
#9
I think most 2.8 A4s out there at automatic. They have about 190hp from the factory. But heavier cars. Especially with the quattro option. A maxima should be able to take a 2.8 A4. They have chips for the 2.8 liter engine too. But that chip doesn't have gains nearly as dramatic as the one for the 1.8T. If its a drag race you should win. But its not going to be a slaughter.. I would say a car length and a half maybe.
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last night i was so pissed , i was in my girlfriends 97 accord special edition with like 2 hampster power engine and these 2 punks in a 323 beemer pull next to me and wanted a piece, so i looked over at them and the kid had a smurk on his face so i punched it but he had to much juice on me, surprisingly he didnt beat me by that much, i always see these punks w/out my max.
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#12
best temperature
for the car--is about 45 degrees I say. I could be wrong. The reason i say this has to do with water and alsow the number of oxygen molecules in air that is being sucked in. And cold air does have more oxygen, therefore helping with the combustion process, but when it gets too cold, the burning process is bogged down with the extra water and it will not burn as efficiently...and the mpg goes down.
that is my theory.
let's just hope this cold weather doesn't screw around with the ignition and starting process that a few folks are having problems with.
=)
that is my theory.
let's just hope this cold weather doesn't screw around with the ignition and starting process that a few folks are having problems with.
=)
#13
Re: best temperature
I think in a WOT situation the 30s would be perfect. The air would be warmer in the engine bay. At WOT the engine follows a fixed fuel map and just dumps a lot of fuel into the engine. So the more air you have the better. On a 80 degree day I ran a 15.4, 28 degree day 15.1. I think weather it makes makes a pretty good difference. And since my car is an auto. It should be pretty consistant.
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Originally posted by humaras
for the car--is about 45 degrees I say. I could be wrong. The reason i say this has to do with water and alsow the number of oxygen molecules in air that is being sucked in. And cold air does have more oxygen, therefore helping with the combustion process, but when it gets too cold, the burning process is bogged down with the extra water and it will not burn as efficiently...and the mpg goes down.
that is my theory.
let's just hope this cold weather doesn't screw around with the ignition and starting process that a few folks are having problems with.
=)
for the car--is about 45 degrees I say. I could be wrong. The reason i say this has to do with water and alsow the number of oxygen molecules in air that is being sucked in. And cold air does have more oxygen, therefore helping with the combustion process, but when it gets too cold, the burning process is bogged down with the extra water and it will not burn as efficiently...and the mpg goes down.
that is my theory.
let's just hope this cold weather doesn't screw around with the ignition and starting process that a few folks are having problems with.
=)
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