Variable Intake from NZ thread
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Originally posted by SprintMax
any change in hp would be ECU adjusted fuel or ignition maps.. the Variable Intake system was re-introduced in 1997 and was given to a couple maxima's outside of the US from 1998 onward.. the US got theirs in 2000
any change in hp would be ECU adjusted fuel or ignition maps.. the Variable Intake system was re-introduced in 1997 and was given to a couple maxima's outside of the US from 1998 onward.. the US got theirs in 2000
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Originally posted by iansw
Ok....I'll be the monkey. I may need more help with paying for the dynos than shipping costs. MardiGrasMax should be able to verify this, I hope. Maybe Cheston, with his cool PayPal skills and website, could help raise the funds?
Ok....I'll be the monkey. I may need more help with paying for the dynos than shipping costs. MardiGrasMax should be able to verify this, I hope. Maybe Cheston, with his cool PayPal skills and website, could help raise the funds?
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
HAHAHAHAAHHAAAA Maybe I could get a few bucks for my time and info too. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!
HAHAHAHAAHHAAAA Maybe I could get a few bucks for my time and info too. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!
Why you gotta be mean about it? I don't have as much $$$ as you, I would think.
if people don't want to help, they won't, and it will take that much longer to get this going.
But I'll get it done nonetheless.
IanS
#45
Originally posted by Chebosto
whats the point of hiding the source?
i told him that we could move about 6 units right away.. and i think thats true. if the price is like almost 40% savings over the ME version..
and if we get the units shipped to me here in CA.. i could take care of the westcoasters. and i dont mind shipping out to eastcoast cuz i might have a friend who has an account with UPS so the price for shipping would be sig cheaper..
i mean. we gotta all try to contact as many sources as possible to get this going.
no point in all of us trying to out bid each other for stuff.
whats the point of hiding the source?
i told him that we could move about 6 units right away.. and i think thats true. if the price is like almost 40% savings over the ME version..
and if we get the units shipped to me here in CA.. i could take care of the westcoasters. and i dont mind shipping out to eastcoast cuz i might have a friend who has an account with UPS so the price for shipping would be sig cheaper..
i mean. we gotta all try to contact as many sources as possible to get this going.
no point in all of us trying to out bid each other for stuff.
yesssss! you better save me one if you become the "west coast" distributor AND if the N/A gains are "mmm, mmm, good"
do you think matthel knows how to install/configure these things? cause I wont trust just any mechanic with this thing...
ps: you're welcome for your sig pic
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i need your FULL NAME, address, phone and email address..
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Originally posted by mtrai760
Hey Ian, look in the yellow pages under auto performance shops, there is a place in their that has a dyno service, I'll get the number for ya tommorow if you can't find it.
Hey Ian, look in the yellow pages under auto performance shops, there is a place in their that has a dyno service, I'll get the number for ya tommorow if you can't find it.
I'd like to see your NOS setup and talk to you some more about it. I may still do it this year...maybe later in the year when I have the money.....
Howabout you, Jeff? You wanna come? Anyone from the NW is invited. Maybe a mini-meet?
Would be a fun afternoon....
Although I bet you'd all rather just come for the "after".
Everyone else:
I'll be ordering it tomorrow afternoon (morning NZ time).
Once again, any help with Dyno costs is greatly appreciated. If it's gonna cost me $200+ for the Dyno's, I'd rather just use my Azz Dyno 2000 to measure it. But I do want people to see results, so please help with a few bucks if you can.
And I'm NOT trying to make a cent or pay for the parts with this. I just need enough for a portion of the Dyno Costs.
E-Mail me if interested in helping the NA Guinea Pig.
Jeff92SE, could the Syndicate maybe help with this? Any word on the Dyno day in Portland on the 16th??
And MardiGras - I appreciate all you've done and all your help for everyone. This should be called the "MardiGras VI Mod".
Thanks All,
IanS
#52
I want one too!!
Originally posted by Chebosto
a few dyno runs should cost no more than like $75 for like 8 runs.
do 3 base line (with the VI off.) and 3 with it on..
thats all we need really.
i can send like $20. to help with shipping/dyno.
a few dyno runs should cost no more than like $75 for like 8 runs.
do 3 base line (with the VI off.) and 3 with it on..
thats all we need really.
i can send like $20. to help with shipping/dyno.
#53
Hmmmm sounds good, but I think I'll wait. I don't want to hear the word custom. That word just means more cash flow. but this seems like an awsome mod.
Originally posted by Jeff92se
I believe introducing boost changes the whole ballgame Uncle. Once you have positive psi, you are no longer really relying on signal pulses from the valve opening(resonances). Now you just want the best flowing thing you can get your hands on. But at off boost, you still have to deal with normal na vaccuum style situations. You still might want one IF this thing flow better than a normal one(which most of us agree it does because of the shorter length runners). This would also explain even when Kev had his manifold honed, it still didn't see much gains(still had the long runners to deal with) My $0.2 on this.
I would think for a high boost turbo application, a custom high flow short runner log type manifold would be best. But damn, that would be expensive on a V6 engine.
I believe introducing boost changes the whole ballgame Uncle. Once you have positive psi, you are no longer really relying on signal pulses from the valve opening(resonances). Now you just want the best flowing thing you can get your hands on. But at off boost, you still have to deal with normal na vaccuum style situations. You still might want one IF this thing flow better than a normal one(which most of us agree it does because of the shorter length runners). This would also explain even when Kev had his manifold honed, it still didn't see much gains(still had the long runners to deal with) My $0.2 on this.
I would think for a high boost turbo application, a custom high flow short runner log type manifold would be best. But damn, that would be expensive on a V6 engine.
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Originally posted by Chebosto
a few dyno runs should cost no more than like $75 for like 8 runs.
do 3 base line (with the VI off.) and 3 with it on..
thats all we need really.
i can send like $20. to help with shipping/dyno.
a few dyno runs should cost no more than like $75 for like 8 runs.
do 3 base line (with the VI off.) and 3 with it on..
thats all we need really.
i can send like $20. to help with shipping/dyno.
I'll call around today and get local prices.
IanS
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Ian. Down in Portland again? Hmmm I don't really have a big urge to drive down there. Maybe after my "project" is done. I haven't kept up on the dyno day. You are going to have to hop on over "there" to get info. Syndicate? I don't know those guys. You already have DaEignma, me and Matri(sp). I mean that guy is a heli mechanic! I "think" we have it covered.
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Ian. Down in Portland again? Hmmm I don't really have a big urge to drive down there. Maybe after my "project" is done. I haven't kept up on the dyno day. You are going to have to hop on over "there" to get info. Syndicate? I don't know those guys. You already have DaEignma, me and Matri(sp). I mean that guy is a heli mechanic! I "think" we have it covered.
Ian. Down in Portland again? Hmmm I don't really have a big urge to drive down there. Maybe after my "project" is done. I haven't kept up on the dyno day. You are going to have to hop on over "there" to get info. Syndicate? I don't know those guys. You already have DaEignma, me and Matri(sp). I mean that guy is a heli mechanic! I "think" we have it covered.
You know those guys...Mike, Matt, Mike, etc....
But yes, I think we have it covered. I've got some work to do right now, but I'll be calling around during my lunch break. I hope to find somewhere local that is cost efficient.
IanS
#58
Ive been calling around too and haven't found any place cheaper than that...
Originally posted by iansw
I found a Dyno shop in Seattle that allows 6 runs for $95.00
I'll keep looking around, but this is the best price yet.
Once again...any help with cost is appreciated.
IanS
I found a Dyno shop in Seattle that allows 6 runs for $95.00
I'll keep looking around, but this is the best price yet.
Once again...any help with cost is appreciated.
IanS
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Sure I'll come with ya. NOS is out right now for emmisions testing, but I'll be putting it back in as soon as we get warm weather again. I would love to help with $$$, but I don't have a job right now. I can however offer free mechanic service...
Originally posted by iansw
Hey Matt, wanna come with me to get it dynoed both before and after?
I'd like to see your NOS setup and talk to you some more about it. I may still do it this year...maybe later in the year when I have the money.....
Thanks All,
IanS
Hey Matt, wanna come with me to get it dynoed both before and after?
I'd like to see your NOS setup and talk to you some more about it. I may still do it this year...maybe later in the year when I have the money.....
Thanks All,
IanS
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Originally posted by mtrai760
Sure I'll come with ya. NOS is out right now for emmisions testing, but I'll be putting it back in as soon as we get warm weather again. I would love to help with $$$, but I don't have a job right now. I can however offer free mechanic service...
Sure I'll come with ya. NOS is out right now for emmisions testing, but I'll be putting it back in as soon as we get warm weather again. I would love to help with $$$, but I don't have a job right now. I can however offer free mechanic service...
I knew it would cost $200+ (after tax) for the Dynos.
Cheston is just lucky because he's in Cali.
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Originally posted by Chebosto
a few dyno runs should cost no more than like $75 for like 8 runs.
do 3 base line (with the VI off.) and 3 with it on..
thats all we need really.
i can send like $20. to help with shipping/dyno.
a few dyno runs should cost no more than like $75 for like 8 runs.
do 3 base line (with the VI off.) and 3 with it on..
thats all we need really.
i can send like $20. to help with shipping/dyno.
I can install the VI, and just keep it turned off (RPM switch not engaged, and test that way.
Silly me. I was thinking about doing a Dyno before even installing it, then after. Nevermind that.
So it shouldn't cost more than $110 with tax. Donations once again are greatly appreciated for Dyno and Shipping costs.
IanS
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Could you post the list.
Originally posted by Chebosto
Just a friendly reminder,
i need your FULL NAME, address, phone and email address..
please just dont say "yea! i'm in" and thats it..
if i dont get the full contact info, i'm not going to put you on the list... be sure to EMAIL it to me
thanks.
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Just a friendly reminder,
i need your FULL NAME, address, phone and email address..
please just dont say "yea! i'm in" and thats it..
if i dont get the full contact info, i'm not going to put you on the list... be sure to EMAIL it to me
thanks.
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Pictures and Designation
I just got this from the supplier:
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Hi, here are the photos of the Collector.
All our collectors have 35U on them but they don't have the oval ports that I was told the 2.5L have.
In fact it is exactly like the pictures sent to me.
Anywhere you want me to measure to make sure.
Regards
Rockie Ellmers
So what hsould I have him measure???
Here's the pictures.
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/cpllector1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/collector2.jpg
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Hi, here are the photos of the Collector.
All our collectors have 35U on them but they don't have the oval ports that I was told the 2.5L have.
In fact it is exactly like the pictures sent to me.
Anywhere you want me to measure to make sure.
Regards
Rockie Ellmers
So what hsould I have him measure???
Here's the pictures.
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/cpllector1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/collector2.jpg
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Re: Pictures and Designation
Originally posted by iansw
[B]I just got this from the supplier:
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Hi, here are the photos of the Collector.
All our collectors have 35U on them but they don't have the oval ports that I was told the 2.5L have.
In fact it is exactly like the pictures sent to me.
Anywhere you want me to measure to make sure.
Regards
Rockie Ellmers
So what hsould I have him measure???
Here's the pictures.
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/cpllector1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/collector2.jpg [/B
[B]I just got this from the supplier:
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Hi, here are the photos of the Collector.
All our collectors have 35U on them but they don't have the oval ports that I was told the 2.5L have.
In fact it is exactly like the pictures sent to me.
Anywhere you want me to measure to make sure.
Regards
Rockie Ellmers
So what hsould I have him measure???
Here's the pictures.
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/cpllector1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/collector2.jpg [/B
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Re: Pictures and Designation
Originally posted by iansw
All our collectors have 35U on them but they don't have the oval ports that I was told the 2.5L have.
In fact it is exactly like the pictures sent to me.
Anywhere you want me to measure to make sure.
Regards
Rockie Ellmers
So what hsould I have him measure???
Here's the pictures.
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/cpllector1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/collector2.jpg [/B]
All our collectors have 35U on them but they don't have the oval ports that I was told the 2.5L have.
In fact it is exactly like the pictures sent to me.
Anywhere you want me to measure to make sure.
Regards
Rockie Ellmers
So what hsould I have him measure???
Here's the pictures.
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/cpllector1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/collector/collector2.jpg [/B]
Bad news, that pic is the wrong manifold. The one we need should say 38U. The 2.5L has round ports, we need the one with the oval ports.
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Re: Pictures and Designation
Originally posted by iansw
Ian
Hi, here are the photos of the Collector.
All our collectors have 35U on them but they don't have the oval ports that I was told the 2.5L have.
In fact it is exactly like the pictures sent to me.
Anywhere you want me to measure to make sure.
Ian
Hi, here are the photos of the Collector.
All our collectors have 35U on them but they don't have the oval ports that I was told the 2.5L have.
In fact it is exactly like the pictures sent to me.
Anywhere you want me to measure to make sure.
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I'm working it out with him right now.
Please be patient.
Apparently, someone sent him the picture Mishmosh had taken when he mistakenly got the wrong part (the 35U).
he took that picture and found one just like it. It is unfortunately the wrong one.
He's looking into it and will get back to me shortly.
IanS
Please be patient.
Apparently, someone sent him the picture Mishmosh had taken when he mistakenly got the wrong part (the 35U).
he took that picture and found one just like it. It is unfortunately the wrong one.
He's looking into it and will get back to me shortly.
IanS
#68
just for easier reference:
This is what MISHMOSH received first.
This IS the WRONG one.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=96194
Peace
This is what MISHMOSH received first.
This IS the WRONG one.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=96194
Peace
#69
For the record, these are pics of the one we need. Send him these pics.
http://www.sx7r.com/roadbeast/Middel...t%20intake.JPG
Lower part of intake should have the same size holes.
http://www.sx7r.com/roadbeast/Lower%20intake.JPG
http://www.sx7r.com/roadbeast/Middel...t%20intake.JPG
Lower part of intake should have the same size holes.
http://www.sx7r.com/roadbeast/Lower%20intake.JPG
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Can I get some help? Anyone have pics of what he needs???
This is the diagram he is talking about:
-----Original Message-----
From: Rockie [mailto:triple_s@clear.net.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:23 PM
To: Ian Sweeney
Subject: Re: Collector
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Are you able to get a picture of the Ports on the Collector it-Self.
Looking at Nissans Pictures the Collector has round ports but the Manifold (top left) Oval ports.
Thanks
Rockie Ellmers
Can I get some help? Anyone have pics of what he needs???
This is the diagram he is talking about:
-----Original Message-----
From: Rockie [mailto:triple_s@clear.net.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:23 PM
To: Ian Sweeney
Subject: Re: Collector
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Are you able to get a picture of the Ports on the Collector it-Self.
Looking at Nissans Pictures the Collector has round ports but the Manifold (top left) Oval ports.
Thanks
Rockie Ellmers
#73
Here;
http://www.sx7r.com/roadbeast/Stille...20Mani%201.JPG
DW
http://www.sx7r.com/roadbeast/Stille...20Mani%201.JPG
DW
Originally posted by iansw
Latest message:
Can I get some help? Anyone have pics of what he needs???
This is the diagram he is talking about:
-----Original Message-----
From: Rockie [mailto:triple_s@clear.net.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:23 PM
To: Ian Sweeney
Subject: Re: Collector
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Are you able to get a picture of the Ports on the Collector it-Self.
Looking at Nissans Pictures the Collector has round ports but the Manifold (top left) Oval ports.
Thanks
Rockie Ellmers
Latest message:
Can I get some help? Anyone have pics of what he needs???
This is the diagram he is talking about:
-----Original Message-----
From: Rockie [mailto:triple_s@clear.net.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:23 PM
To: Ian Sweeney
Subject: Re: Collector
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Are you able to get a picture of the Ports on the Collector it-Self.
Looking at Nissans Pictures the Collector has round ports but the Manifold (top left) Oval ports.
Thanks
Rockie Ellmers
#75
Interesting diagram. It has some inconsistencies though. The lower intake manifold has oval ports. The cut out of the butterflies to the air chamber is also likewise oval. But the gasket shown is round. Doesn't make sense. The butterfly valves will be in the shape of the ports. For the 38U, the valves are oval; for the 35U, they are round.
I'd ask him to confirm the 38U and if yes, whether or not the bottom has oval ports. There is no point in having an intake that has oval butterfly valves/opening to the air chamber, but round port openings. Functionally, that would be the same as the 35U.
I'd ask him to confirm the 38U and if yes, whether or not the bottom has oval ports. There is no point in having an intake that has oval butterfly valves/opening to the air chamber, but round port openings. Functionally, that would be the same as the 35U.
#77
Iansw,
Do you think that this source could scan in the whole schematic? Seems to cut off the part# of the intake as well as (potentially) the vacuum actuator system.
I noticed that the part# of the gasket with round holes is different from ours. In the diagram, it is labelled as 14035P and the upper-to-lower intake manifold gasket I have is part 14032-38U00.
Do you think that this source could scan in the whole schematic? Seems to cut off the part# of the intake as well as (potentially) the vacuum actuator system.
I noticed that the part# of the gasket with round holes is different from ours. In the diagram, it is labelled as 14035P and the upper-to-lower intake manifold gasket I have is part 14032-38U00.
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Here's the latest.
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Hi, I am sending this e-mail to everyone.
We have rung everywhere including the NZ Nissan Head Office and checked every major Nissan Wrecker and we get the same answer.
Our 3.0L V6 Maximas with Variable Air Intake have Round Ports on the Manifold that match up to the Round Ports on the Collector.
To get the Collector to fit you will need the Manifold. It costs an extra $145.00 plus the Extra in Freight.
I have been guaranteed that the Manifolds will fit your V6, I will of course still send a photo if anyone is still interested just to make sure.
Sorry not to be able to supply the same Collector as shown. The Middle East Maxima must be different than hours.
Regards
Rockie Ellmers
So what now?
I'd shell out the extra money, but could someone tell me why or why not that manifold would not work on our cars?
This is a really lame question, but where does the manifold connect to? Wouldn't whatever it connects to have oval ports?? Would a gasket solve that problem?
I don't see how you can fit a round peg into an oval hole, so to speak.
IanS
PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com
Ian
Hi, I am sending this e-mail to everyone.
We have rung everywhere including the NZ Nissan Head Office and checked every major Nissan Wrecker and we get the same answer.
Our 3.0L V6 Maximas with Variable Air Intake have Round Ports on the Manifold that match up to the Round Ports on the Collector.
To get the Collector to fit you will need the Manifold. It costs an extra $145.00 plus the Extra in Freight.
I have been guaranteed that the Manifolds will fit your V6, I will of course still send a photo if anyone is still interested just to make sure.
Sorry not to be able to supply the same Collector as shown. The Middle East Maxima must be different than hours.
Regards
Rockie Ellmers
So what now?
I'd shell out the extra money, but could someone tell me why or why not that manifold would not work on our cars?
This is a really lame question, but where does the manifold connect to? Wouldn't whatever it connects to have oval ports?? Would a gasket solve that problem?
I don't see how you can fit a round peg into an oval hole, so to speak.
IanS
#79
Hey guys,
NZ MAx is back among us with some news . . . .
DW
NZ MAx is back among us with some news . . . .
Originally posted by NZ Max
Hi People.
Sorry I haven't been able to reply for a few months. Things have happened that have meant I havent been able to come here. Just to clarify a few things I noticed while reading this thread.
1. New Zealand manufactured maximas dont have variable intake manifold. they have the same as the US.
2. NZ manufactured maximas dont have catalytic converters
3. NZ imports a lot of vehicles from japan. these have the variable intakes because they are JDM spec.
4. A JDM spec VQ25DE in a cefiro will leave a NZ VQ30DE for dead at top end.
5. JDM spec maximas (defiros) have catalytic converters.
Hi People.
Sorry I haven't been able to reply for a few months. Things have happened that have meant I havent been able to come here. Just to clarify a few things I noticed while reading this thread.
1. New Zealand manufactured maximas dont have variable intake manifold. they have the same as the US.
2. NZ manufactured maximas dont have catalytic converters
3. NZ imports a lot of vehicles from japan. these have the variable intakes because they are JDM spec.
4. A JDM spec VQ25DE in a cefiro will leave a NZ VQ30DE for dead at top end.
5. JDM spec maximas (defiros) have catalytic converters.
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the part that Rockie has is the wrong one. its got the round intake ports. BUT... if it IS a Variable intake runner. and if we get the lower intake manifold. then all the better.. it will still work.
Ian-- if you get the VI from rockie, you better get the lower half.. what? because oval doesnt line up with round. dohh.
the part that Rockie has is the wrong one. its got the round intake ports. BUT... if it IS a Variable intake runner. and if we get the lower intake manifold. then all the better.. it will still work.
Ian-- if you get the VI from rockie, you better get the lower half.. what? because oval doesnt line up with round. dohh.