Post up agressive and flush 4TH gens now! give the 5th gns some comp!
I personally would not support companies that make knock-offs products. Recently a customer came into my shop to have some brand new rotas mounted on a set of tires. After I mounted the tires, i noticed a hairline crack in the actual wheel. And this was from just mounting. Imagine what would happen if that wheel explodes while you are driving.
It is not about just the looks of a wheel but its strength and weight, etc. Take a look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJeFB6SRslk
Companies that make knock-offs products are the one that hurt the tuning industry. Like I said i personally will never support a company that took somebody else's idea, made a copy, and then sells it to make profit. And those knock-off companies will never make a product identical to the real version.
It is not about just the looks of a wheel but its strength and weight, etc. Take a look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJeFB6SRslk
Companies that make knock-offs products are the one that hurt the tuning industry. Like I said i personally will never support a company that took somebody else's idea, made a copy, and then sells it to make profit. And those knock-off companies will never make a product identical to the real version.
they do hurt original manufacturer. remember when SSR wheels went out of business because everyone decided to run knock off SSR's? for every original stillen FSTB you see on this board, how many fleabay knock offs are there?
Last edited by QT1 5MT AE; Jul 18, 2011 at 01:27 PM.
To those who are interested, read this article. It has alot of good points about why individuals should not support knock-off companies and what happens to the original manufacturer.
http://www.bespokeventures.com/blog/...of-innovation/
http://www.bespokeventures.com/blog/...of-innovation/
To those who are interested, read this article. It has alot of good points about why individuals should not support knock-off companies and what happens to the original manufacturer.
http://www.bespokeventures.com/blog/...of-innovation/
http://www.bespokeventures.com/blog/...of-innovation/
So you say it is not serious when the original manufacturer stops producing parts because companies make knock-off parts that people buy instead? I think it is serious because people are supporting companies that do not do any R&D and just copy other companies.
Directly from the article.
"Do people care yet? Probably not…Will people care the next time Voltex needs to look at the costs to decide if they want to produce an Aero hood for their next car and conclude that its not worth it? Probably still not. Will people care when there are almost no new products coming out with proper R&D because no company can find a way to make their money back? Yeah…probably then people will care…but it wont matter because by that point it’ll be too late to say we’re sorry and turn back the clock."
Directly from the article.
"Do people care yet? Probably not…Will people care the next time Voltex needs to look at the costs to decide if they want to produce an Aero hood for their next car and conclude that its not worth it? Probably still not. Will people care when there are almost no new products coming out with proper R&D because no company can find a way to make their money back? Yeah…probably then people will care…but it wont matter because by that point it’ll be too late to say we’re sorry and turn back the clock."
i wont read that because the original manufacturers are not supporting my wallet. so i'll buy what I please. i'm not going to knock the next man for rocking the real deal, just like i'm not going to knock the next man for rocking knock offs. its personal preference. let people buy what they want to buy. its not that serious
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too much strech and you lose sidewall height. should've gone with a higher aspect ratio. you need another 2" in the rear but IIRC the rear coils barely had an inch worth of a drop left in them
Last edited by QT1 5MT AE; Jul 19, 2011 at 05:10 PM.
The fake wheel debate is beating a dead horse. What bothers me is the tons of animosity people have for each other because of the decision they made to buy the replica. There is a huge market of enthusiasts where their wheels will not endure the abuse that forged high dollar wheels are engineered for. Replica's, sure, have skimped out on the construction of the wheel. BUT, there are plenty of testimonials littered on the web of people running Rota's and Varrosten's with having no problem with cracked wheels.
But, think of it, if your car will never see the track. You just drive aggressive here and there on the highway and side streets. A replica is a perfect choice, the weight different is marginal. Now, the ethical debate of Rota biting into other manufacturer's sales... that's a whole new topic.
But, think of it, if your car will never see the track. You just drive aggressive here and there on the highway and side streets. A replica is a perfect choice, the weight different is marginal. Now, the ethical debate of Rota biting into other manufacturer's sales... that's a whole new topic.
But, think of it, if your car will never see the track. You just drive aggressive here and there on the highway and side streets. A replica is a perfect choice, the weight different is marginal. Now, the ethical debate of Rota biting into other manufacturer's sales... that's a whole new topic.
(...and I'm looking at a set of XXRs...
)
That's economics. It's the constant "WalMart-ing" of our society. You can't stop it, what it comes down to is if it pleases you, rock the **** out of it, and if it doesn't, pay the money and enjoy your car for God's sake - if I see Rotas on someone elses car, it ain't my problem.
(...and I'm looking at a set of XXRs...
)
(...and I'm looking at a set of XXRs...
)
^^^ LOL...the xxr wheels look good.. but is it me or does everyone get the same exact wheels? just in different colors..... individuality people!!
my personal opinion is majestic ken had the best fitment thus far even better than that 5.5 gen... but that **** does look good... sucks our cars cant camber the rear..smh
my personal opinion is majestic ken had the best fitment thus far even better than that 5.5 gen... but that **** does look good... sucks our cars cant camber the rear..smh
The fake wheel debate is beating a dead horse. What bothers me is the tons of animosity people have for each other because of the decision they made to buy the replica. There is a huge market of enthusiasts where their wheels will not endure the abuse that forged high dollar wheels are engineered for. Replica's, sure, have skimped out on the construction of the wheel. BUT, there are plenty of testimonials littered on the web of people running Rota's and Varrosten's with having no problem with cracked wheels.
But, think of it, if your car will never see the track. You just drive aggressive here and there on the highway and side streets. A replica is a perfect choice, the weight different is marginal. Now, the ethical debate of Rota biting into other manufacturer's sales... that's a whole new topic.
But, think of it, if your car will never see the track. You just drive aggressive here and there on the highway and side streets. A replica is a perfect choice, the weight different is marginal. Now, the ethical debate of Rota biting into other manufacturer's sales... that's a whole new topic.
THIS!!!
^^^ LOL...the xxr wheels look good.. but is it me or does everyone get the same exact wheels? just in different colors..... individuality people!!
my personal opinion is majestic ken had the best fitment thus far even better than that 5.5 gen... but that **** does look good... sucks our cars cant camber the rear..smh
my personal opinion is majestic ken had the best fitment thus far even better than that 5.5 gen... but that **** does look good... sucks our cars cant camber the rear..smh
hence why i did it. hopefully when i'm ready to buy wheels i'll have a wheel that nobody in the MAXIMA community is rocking
'sh1tted on em'


^^^ LOL...the xxr wheels look good.. but is it me or does everyone get the same exact wheels? just in different colors..... individuality people!!
my personal opinion is majestic ken had the best fitment thus far even better than that 5.5 gen... but that **** does look good... sucks our cars cant camber the rear..smh
my personal opinion is majestic ken had the best fitment thus far even better than that 5.5 gen... but that **** does look good... sucks our cars cant camber the rear..smh






im just sayin. I did it when i had them

