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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 03:46 PM
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Put on PR CAI.... Problems problems problems !!!

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So i get my PR intake in the mail the next day around 7pm we rush out to my buddies shop and start ripping apart the stock intake. Get it all off and then i look at my maf and say "oh ****" We don't have a Maf adapter. For some reason i thought it would come with the intake and i spaced it out!! doh!
So we scrounge for scrap pieces of metal and finally find them and start making a custom adapter and gasket. We get that all done whew!
Then we drill the hole with a 3.5 inch hole saw. First hole was a pain in the *** the second overlapping hole we could not get the hole saw to grip it would just fly around. So we use a Industrial sized Dremel with a cutting blade and cut most of it out then went back with the grinder and grinded it all down. walla we're done woohoo
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the lower Pipe for the CAI would not fit on. We could attach it all but then the filter couldn't go on the tube was hitting the inner part of the fender. So we pull it up and put the filter on then try to re attach it. Wouldn't NOT reattach. The battery, the fuse box are kind of in the way and we couldn't adjust the upper pipe to attach without having a huge bend in the rubber that would cause a bad seal. So finally at 1:30pm we say screw it and i put the filter on the End of the Maf adapter and go home.

Now it sounds really cool BUT i have tremendous low end power loss. I don't know what it going on. When i try to launch it just bogs badly unless i spin the tires off. On the freeway it struggles in 5th gear, it doesn't gain speed like it should and it just drops off fast if i let off the gas at all. The throttle feels tight. Leaving places i'll take off slowly and it just dogs until around 3k rpms then it takes off like a badass. But i don't know is it just the increase in the top end that it "feels" like the low end suffers?
i'm kinda regretting it and thinking about putting on the stock intake. It seemed to run faster off the line adn better. I always hear people talking about lowend loss but isn't it supposed to be not as bad with a Hybrid setup? cause this feels terrible.
Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:31 PM
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Re: Put on PR CAI.... Problems problems problems !!!

Not to judge, but it sounds like you did a 'rush' job and perhaps didnt get everything installed correctly. There might be multiple leaks, or the MAF sensor is getting bad readings via poor placement. Go back and be more thorough. My PR CAI works great -- no low end loss and no apparent bogging either.
Old Sep 14, 2002 | 05:39 PM
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Re: Re: Put on PR CAI.... Problems problems problems !!!

Originally posted by Mizeree_X
Not to judge, but it sounds like you did a 'rush' job and perhaps didnt get everything installed correctly. There might be multiple leaks, or the MAF sensor is getting bad readings via poor placement. Go back and be more thorough. My PR CAI works great -- no low end loss and no apparent bogging either.
That's what I'm saying...

I dont understand how you couldnt get it to fit right? If you couldnt get it to line up in the hole, adjust the size of the hole. Test fit it again, and then adjust some more and so on and so on till you get proper fitment.

The CAI will give you gains all around. If you have bogging or anything like that then something isnt right. Go back and do it correctly.
Old Sep 15, 2002 | 10:01 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Put on PR CAI.... Problems problems problems !!!

Sounds like there's a leak somewhere between the TB and MAF.
Old Sep 15, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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we did not rush the job.
it took us almost 5 hours to do.
I've gone over all the hoses around the intake and they are all on and sealed. There is a slight humming coming from the intake but i suspect that it's normal cause it's coming from the filter. And i hear no leaks. I'm pretty sure i've found WHY the lower pipe won't go on and i'm heading out to his shop ina couple hours to try round 2 and see what happens. I'll go over all the tubes once again and make sure. Unless teh custom gasket or adapter is leaking but i don't hear or feel any leak.
Old Sep 18, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Well I don't know if it actually makes a difference, but I've heard that you're supposed to disconnect the battery for a bit after intalling any new intake so when you turn it on with the intake for the first time it will allow the sensors to properly adjust. Might want to try that...I also had no problems, and I had the battery disconnected while doing the install.
Old Sep 18, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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Update
Sunday night we went back and tightened up all the clamps and moved all the pipes up farther in the sleeves, and installed the Lower part of the CAI.

And my lowend is BACK!!
however i did notice a slight lose in Top end as the Hybrid made tremendous topend but it's all good cause my lowend rocks and my top end is a hair better than it used to be
I got 250 miles on it now with the whole thing installed so i'm hoping it'll get better.
Old Sep 18, 2002 | 08:01 PM
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good thing everything worked out for you
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