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Old Jan 17, 2001 | 04:58 PM
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So I go to pick up the rental car while they finish my bumper. What do they have the gall to give me.... A CHEVY METRO. They also don't want to replace the TCM when they replace the Tranny. I've had the car in the dealers 4 or 5 times complaining about the behavior, all the sudden the Transmission is shot!? I don think so. What do you guys think, my car was made 11/99 should I push the TCM at the same time?
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by punkdork
So I go to pick up the rental car while they finish my bumper. What do they have the gall to give me.... A CHEVY METRO. They also don't want to replace the TCM when they replace the Tranny. I've had the car in the dealers 4 or 5 times complaining about the behavior, all the sudden the Transmission is shot!? I don think so. What do you guys think, my car was made 11/99 should I push the TCM at the same time?
Yes
and don't take a chevy metro
That's the same as a maxima
demand a better rental.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 05:20 PM
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So I go to pick up the rental car while they finish my bumper. What do they have the gall to give me.... A CHEVY METRO. They also don't want to replace the TCM when they replace the Tranny. I've had the car in the dealers 4 or 5 times complaining about the behavior, all the sudden the Transmission is shot!? I don think so. What do you guys think, my car was made 11/99 should I push the TCM at the same time?
Yes
and don't take a chevy metro
That's the same as a maxima
demand a better rental.
I think you mean sentra... right. Please tell me a metro is not the same as a Max to you.

I would've put up a fight but I had to get back to work and I'll only have it for one horrible night.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 05:47 PM
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If it takes longer than a day, demand a better rental. Meanwhile....have fun with the metro

Old Jan 17, 2001 | 06:15 PM
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If it takes longer than a day, demand a better rental. Meanwhile....have fun with the metro

Thats kind of an oxymoron. I mean the only fun there I can think of is listening to the engine try to explode at WOT. That and praying the whole time I'm in it that I won't get hit and squished like a bug. I am truly frightened and embarrassed to be in that car. Luckily I'll get rid of it tomorrow. Since they're letting me have my car back untill the replacement tranny gets in.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 06:22 PM
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I would be scared driving a Metro in rush hour traffic on the interstate. Imagine begin next to a 18 wheel Semi in a Metro...Now thats intimidating
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 06:24 PM
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shh I have to leave work soon
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 06:28 PM
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Check if there are any lemon laws in your state. If that car sees the shop for the same problem several times, they may be required by law to replace the whole car. ***Don't quote me on anything I said, I'm not familiar with this topic, just offering a sugestion***
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 06:36 PM
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Lemon Laws are dependent on the state you are in. Here in MD, if you take the car in to the dealer three times for the same problem without it being resolved, you can force the dealer to buy back your car and get you a replacement. My dad did it once before that way.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 06:38 PM
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Wow... replace the tranny?? What happened? Mine slips under WOT when cold. Other than that its pretty good.

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So I go to pick up the rental car while they finish my bumper. What do they have the gall to give me.... A CHEVY METRO. They also don't want to replace the TCM when they replace the Tranny. I've had the car in the dealers 4 or 5 times complaining about the behavior, all the sudden the Transmission is shot!? I don think so. What do you guys think, my car was made 11/99 should I push the TCM at the same time?
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 07:00 PM
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Wow... replace the tranny?? What happened? Mine slips under WOT when cold. Other than that its pretty good.
Mine slipped too, they would never replace the TCM, I tried 4 times over 10k miles, they could never repro. They were checking out the tranny and found metal shavings in the pan.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 07:03 PM
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I forgot to add that it smells like kitty litter in that car. I'm soooo in heaven! The raw power of two gerbils at my will!
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 07:04 PM
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They don't want to replace the TCM???

Man, you are showing tremendous restraint..I applaud you for it...I would be hitting the roof..I mean absolutely imploding...we aren't talking about rattles here...man...tranny already?

If it makes you feel any better I got a Dodge Neon for a couple of days when they were trying to fix my engine mount chirps. Made me appreciate the Max a lot more when I got it back..not enough though As bad as the Neon was, not one stinking rattle in it ...of course it sounded like it was gonna blow up but no rattles
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 07:38 PM
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no way...

You tell them you refuse to drive that car a single mile with the updated TCM. The tranny WILL FAIL AGAIN with the old TCM. The TSB clearly outlines this. Except, it might not be under warranty next time.

Also, if the lugnuts read the TSB, it says Check TCM, replace, then if still slipping, replace tranny. They arent following the directions. Call Nissan NA. I wouldnt leave the lot without the new TCM. period.

The TCM is a 15 min fix. And Nissan will pay for it, so just flat out ask them why they refuse to follow the directions on the TSB. What are they worried about. maybe they like replacing trannies.

If all else fails, try a Jedi Mind Trick® on the service manager.

Old Jan 17, 2001 | 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by punkdork
I forgot to add that it smells like kitty litter in that car. I'm soooo in heaven! The raw power of two gerbils at my will!

Hey Punkdork what nissan have you been taking it to? I know of a awesome dealership in Bellvue that takes care of their ****! I think its called Bellvue Nissan. I have to get them to fix my trunk, alignment and anything else someone has to inform me about.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 08:23 PM
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Say You get the tranny replaced... what stops it from failing again? I think the tranny is not engineered to handle 222 HP.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 08:43 PM
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Re: no way...

I second what Tim said. If you don't fix it now, what happens if your tranny goes out on you right after the warranty expires? That's going to be money out of <b>your</b> pocket.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 09:20 PM
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I forgot to add that it smells like kitty litter in that car. I'm soooo in heaven! The raw power of two gerbils at my will!

Hey Punkdork what nissan have you been taking it to? I know of a awesome dealership in Bellvue that takes care of their ****! I think its called Bellvue Nissan. I have to get them to fix my trunk, alignment and anything else someone has to inform me about.
They're the one's I'm dealing with... Melody's Bellevue Nissan.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 09:22 PM
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Re: no way...

Originally posted by TimW
You tell them you refuse to drive that car a single mile with the updated TCM. The tranny WILL FAIL AGAIN with the old TCM. The TSB clearly outlines this. Except, it might not be under warranty next time.

Also, if the lugnuts read the TSB, it says Check TCM, replace, then if still slipping, replace tranny. They arent following the directions. Call Nissan NA. I wouldnt leave the lot without the new TCM. period.

The TCM is a 15 min fix. And Nissan will pay for it, so just flat out ask them why they refuse to follow the directions on the TSB. What are they worried about. maybe they like replacing trannies.

If all else fails, try a Jedi Mind Trick® on the service manager.

I'm gonna tear the Service Manager a new one tomorrow unless he agrees to replace the TCM. Supposedly the TCM says to replace the TCM first, but their repair procedure states Tranny, some solenoid, then TCM. @ss backwards if you ask me. I will not leave tomorrow before getting the aggreement to put in the new TCM.
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 09:25 PM
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Re: Re: no way...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE
I second what Tim said. If you don't fix it now, what happens if your tranny goes out on you right after the warranty expires? That's going to be money out of <b>your</b> pocket.
Exactly I'm gonna say "I brought it in 4 times, you could never reproduce the issue, now the tranny is dead. I'm not doing this again." If that doesn't work I'll slap him and scream like a girl!
Old Jan 17, 2001 | 09:26 PM
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Re: Re: Re: no way...

Originally posted by punkdork
Exactly I'm gonna say "I brought it in 4 times, you could never reproduce the issue, now the tranny is dead. I'm not doing this again." If that doesn't work I'll slap him and scream like a girl!
Better start practicing that girly scream.
Old Jan 18, 2001 | 10:09 AM
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well....

I just talked to the service manager on the phone and he's sticking to the transmission replacement. He did say that the sollenoid is replaced in the tranny.. apparently they have been known to be defective. Has anyone heard of this. I asked him for a full printed copy of the TSB and he's gonna give me that. Hopefully I can get him to see my side. Who knows.

Oh btw, he says Nissan provides no rental car for warranty work and that was the dealer's decision. He did say if I needed another they'd try and get me into something more reasonable.

Not batting 1.000 but I'm not done yet.
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