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Old May 20, 2003 | 02:32 PM
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TEIN S.Tech Springs / Bump Stops

I just got my Tein S.Tech springs in today. My question is regarding the bump stops. Tein recommends that on A33's, we trim the Front by 1.3" and the Rear 1.0" For those that have the Tein springs on their 5th gens, did you do that? For everyone else, what does trimming the bump stop do? Is it really neccessary?
Old May 20, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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Trimming the bump stops just insures that you have complete suspension travel. I personally did not trim mine and it does not effect the ride. The only time you'll notice is if you hit a bump, dip, ect.. hard enough to make the spring compress all the way (barley ever) and it will hit harder upon impact. Ive had absolutly no problems as of yet.
Old May 20, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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i trimmed the front, but left the rear alone. The rear drop is not as drastic at the front, and like Hitman, i have had zero problems.
Old May 20, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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By not cutting the bump stop u will save ur shocks life by not bottoming out all the time with such low springs.
Old May 21, 2003 | 02:39 AM
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For all the Tien guys, are you running on stock shocks/struts? If not, which aftermarket ones did you go with?
Old May 21, 2003 | 04:25 AM
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Well i'm not on Teins yet but I order them along with KYB GR2's... I'm waiting like a kid the night before Xmas day!

Is that true about not cutting the bump stops will increase strut life??? Anyone! Anyone! Anyone!
Old May 21, 2003 | 04:42 AM
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Tyring to decide

Originally posted by Triple8Sol
For all the Tien guys, are you running on stock shocks/struts? If not, which aftermarket ones did you go with?
I'm waiting on my TEINS now....not sure what to do about the struts, but I think I'm going to chance it and go with stock for a while and see what happens.

I want AGX's that are OEM fit, and I'm going to wait until they're available.

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Old May 21, 2003 | 04:46 AM
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Re: Tyring to decide

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I'm waiting on my TEINS now....not sure what to do about the struts, but I think I'm going to chance it and go with stock for a while and see what happens.

I want AGX's that are OEM fit, and I'm going to wait until they're available.

gr
Do they have a guestament on when they will be available?? I was going to wait for the Teins SS fully adjustable but didn't want to wait till June/July or whenever!!
Old May 21, 2003 | 07:22 AM
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Guestimate

I've only heard rumblings on the ORG from past threads, I haven't made the call, but I think I might now.

Adjustable TEINS????

Not heard of those ---??

I know there's a few guys who are not happy with the stockers, but seeing that TEIN is saying they are supposed to be matched to the STOCK shocks REALLY makes me wonder.

I am not saying I like the stockers, but I'm not 100% convinced buying the GR-2's is the way to go.

i'll probably change my mind tomorrow....

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Old May 21, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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they are called TEIN SUPER STREET Damper
Old May 21, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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Spring rate:392 in the front and 336 in the rear. 4get that, the teins are as stiff as im willing to go but that just waaaaaaay too much. Right now the front are a little over 200 and near 300 on the rears. Besides the coilever setup will run 1100. You still reduce it up to 112 lbs though, I guess it isnt that bad then Anyway...

For the time being get the gr-2's, dont appemt to wait for the AGX's to come out. Last I contacted them, the guys there said the comp shows nothing to even be in R&D for atleast the next two year. So minimum of 4yrs if they come out.

The funny **** is once you get the Teins on (or any springs for the matter) you just stand there and cant help but stare at the car. It looks soooo much better. You'll see
Old May 21, 2003 | 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by HitManSE
Spring rate:392 in the front and 336 in the rear. 4get that, the teins are as stiff as im willing to go but that just waaaaaaay too much. Right now the front are a little over 200 and near 300 on the rears. Besides the coilever setup will run 1100. You still reduce it up to 112 lbs though, I guess it isnt that bad then Anyway...

For the time being get the gr-2's, dont appemt to wait for the AGX's to come out. Last I contacted them, the guys there said the comp shows nothing to even be in R&D for atleast the next two year. So minimum of 4yrs if they come out.

The funny **** is once you get the Teins on (or any springs for the matter) you just stand there and cant help but stare at the car. It looks soooo much better. You'll see
I can't wait.. Do you know if the KYB bump stops are the same as factory??
Old May 21, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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IMO cutting bumpstops do not shorten shock life. I feel it is necessary to do with lowering springs.
Old May 21, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Maximam
IMO cutting bumpstops do not shorten shock life. I feel it is necessary to do with lowering springs.
Generally I would agree with this statment. The only issue with bump stops is if the travel of the shock can handle the full range of movement the suspension allows. If you cut a bump stop and the shock is allowed to compress to far(bottom), you can destroy the shock quickly. Not sure how this would apply to the Max, as I did not run the suspension up with the stock in place(didn't cut my bump stops).

I did not trim the bump stops with my Tein install, but I am also thinking about removing the rear Tein springs and going with something else(way too stiff I am thinking at this point).

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Old May 21, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Yoogie


Generally I would agree with this statment. The only issue with bump stops is if the travel of the shock can handle the full range of movement the suspension allows. If you cut a bump stop and the shock is allowed to compress to far(bottom), you can destroy the shock quickly. Not sure how this would apply to the Max, as I did not run the suspension up with the stock in place(didn't cut my bump stops).

I did not trim the bump stops with my Tein install, but I am also thinking about removing the rear Tein springs and going with something else(way too stiff I am thinking at this point).

Todd
How long have you had them on there???
Old May 21, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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I had five people in my car the first week after I bought it and the rear suspension (completely stock) bottomed out going to downtown Long Beach on the 710 freeway (south of 405). Of course, three of the guys in the car were over 250lbs (one well over). Driver (me) and one of the rear seat passengers are around 180lbs.
Old May 21, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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Re: TEIN S.Tech Springs / Bump Stops

Originally posted by Triple8Sol
I just got my Tein S.Tech springs in today.
You've already received it? So where did you purchase it from? For how much? Are you going to install it yourself? When? PM me.


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Old May 21, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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269/201 to be exact....I called TEIN today to verify.

Still trying to find the MaxSpeed/Sprint/Eibach/H&R rates to compare.

I'm worried this ain't gonna be stiff enough --

whattya think HITMAN...you're the expert.

are you sick of me asking now???



Originally posted by HitManSE
Spring rate:392 in the front and 336 in the rear. 4get that, the teins are as stiff as im willing to go but that just waaaaaaay too much. Right now the front are a little over 200 and near 300 on the rears. Besides the coilever setup will run 1100. You still reduce it up to 112 lbs though, I guess it isnt that bad then Anyway...

For the time being get the gr-2's, dont appemt to wait for the AGX's to come out. Last I contacted them, the guys there said the comp shows nothing to even be in R&D for atleast the next two year. So minimum of 4yrs if they come out.

The funny **** is once you get the Teins on (or any springs for the matter) you just stand there and cant help but stare at the car. It looks soooo much better. You'll see
Old May 21, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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They definetly are stiff enough. I know the "normal" Teins are 269/201 that was posted on VQpower.com a little while ago. The ones I was refering to were the Tein Coilovers with that spring rate. Those are stiff as hell at 392/336 but can be reduced to 280/224. So the coilovers even at its lowest setting will be stiffer then the the normal Teins. As of now the Teins are stiff enough and will definetly surpize you the 1st week. Teins by far are the overall stiffest. Eibach for some reason has a spring rate in the rear close to 300 but the fronts are under 200 I cant prove this but have seen it be4.
Old May 21, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by busakiller
How long have you had them on there???
I have about 200 miles on them now. I am going to give them 1K miles and see how it rides then(HitMan says his softned after a week, don't recall a milage). If it is still riding as it is now, I am going to start with the rear springs and swap back to stock on my GR-2s for comparison.
Old May 21, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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Just for comparisons sake, I have the Toks on mine. I weeks worth of driving for me is anywere from 200-250miles so your about there. It gets more and more eased up in weeks to come. The first days pot holes were hell, it felt like the dash board was gonna break off it hit so hard at some point but now its fine. I could fly over em, I feel it but no harsh impact.
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