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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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92 hh2a prelude cant be this quick.....

Hey guys, I found this video and can’t believe my eyes. Please tell me that guy couldn’t drive for crap.
http://boomland.no-ip.com:6968/movie...s-98maxima.mpg
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:45 AM
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why can't it be that quick?

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 04:40 AM
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its not that quick
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 05:28 AM
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You're too quick to judge the Honda as a slow car. That model Prelude, especially in the early year models was around 2850lbs, and the one in the video was a 5spd. H22A motor, thats 2.2L VTEC 200hp. 7400rpm or so indicated redline, 8k fuel cutoff. Prelude had intake and header, those cars with i/h/e are capable of mid 14s with like 95mph trap speeds. I don't get whats so hard to believe.

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 05:48 AM
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that max got smoked!
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:00 AM
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Unpossible! The Maxima is god's chariot!
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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That Max did'nt have any wheel spin. Should've been a little closer.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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Last gen preludes run low 15's stock and they weigh around 3,042 lbs. The '92 models weight around 2,900 plus he had I/E. You do the math...
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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Looks like an auto GXE vs fastest generation Prelude. I must say that Prelude isn't that quick either because my Max winds out past 100mph much faster. It takes forever for him to go from 100 to 110. It took him nearly 23 seconds to reach 100mph. That's not very quick seeing that some of us of doing nearly 100mph in the 1/4 mile in the lower 14s and upper 13s.


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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Looks like an auto GXE vs fastest generation Prelude. I must say that Prelude isn't that quick either because my Max winds out past 100mph much faster. It takes forever for him to go from 100 to 110. It took him nearly 23 seconds to reach 100mph. That's not very quick seeing that some of us of doing nearly 100mph in the 1/4 mile in the lower 14s and upper 13s.


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Don't those Ludes have VTEC? It just seems slow for a car that is supposed to be a highway monster 100-110 in 1/2 a minute
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:18 AM
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Bad driver maybe????Emergency brake on????
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:21 AM
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mmmmmm....VTEC
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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FYI, that wasnt a 98se. It was a GXE.

But that race seemed about right...
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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The race said it was a 92 Prelude with an H22A, the 92 model didn't come with a VTEC motor, so if it indeed is a 92 model, then its most definitely a swap. There were a few different transmissions that could be used with that swap. I think the stock transmission would bolt up to the H22, but had very wide gear 4 i believe.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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A kid that Dave and I know has a 92 or 94 prelude with an h22 vtec swap in it, and he can't break into the 14's, so it could be a close race.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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Both of those cars look too slow for some reason... The Lude took ~22s to reach 100mph and the Max took even longer according to the vid?

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RastaManMax
Both of those cars look too slow for some reason... The Lude took ~22s to reach 100mph and the Max took even longer according to the vid?

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IMO, that Prelude doesn't look that fast. My buddy has a Lude with the H22 with headers, intake, and exhaust and he can't keep up with my Max. At the track, he ran a 14.9 to my 14.6. On the highway, those cars are a different beast. We've done runs from 60 to about 120 mph and I only had him by about 1 car length and that was with my stock 16 inch SE rims.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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Thanks for the input guys. I didn’t think that max should of lost by that much, if at all. That’s a vid from one of those guys who thinks their car can beat anything. Typical honda fanboy type. He does get smoked hard from an RSX-S though in one of his vids.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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H22 Prelude. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm tasty.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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i used to have a 3rd gen prelude, and I know that 5th gen ludes all came stock witha 195hp VTEC 4 banger. that plus its light wieght, and performance characteristics, put it ahead of the max stock. aftermarket parts can change both cars dramatically.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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Both cars are hella slow... Pathetic.....
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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the H22 was one of the best engines honda made, in my opinon. other 4cyl with SC and turbos have a hard time competing.

No reason to flame, the maxima is a great car, but I gotta defend quality honda engines, esp the H22.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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I ran a buddy of mine's stock 95 VTEC, and we're neck and neck down the track, then he pulls a nose on me. Those preludes pull at the top quite a bit, don't discredit them.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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As stated, the Prelude body in this video was older/lighter and they also had mods, so I'm not surprised to see the Max get beat. A stock last-gen Lude doesn't have anything on a 4th gen 5spd until around 80-90 mph or so when the revs are finally up in the top-end long enough for VTEC to really shine. This was probably an automagic Max.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC


As stated, the Prelude body in this video was older/lighter and they also had mods, so I'm not surprised to see the Max get beat. A stock last-gen Lude doesn't have anything on a 4th gen 5spd until around 80-90 mph or so when the revs are finally up in the top-end long enough for VTEC to really shine. This was probably an automagic Max.
Agreed.

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SkylineGTR
You're too quick to judge the Honda as a slow car. That model Prelude, especially in the early year models was around 2850lbs, and the one in the video was a 5spd. H22A motor, thats 2.2L VTEC 200hp. 7400rpm or so indicated redline, 8k fuel cutoff. Prelude had intake and header, those cars with i/h/e are capable of mid 14s with like 95mph trap speeds. I don't get whats so hard to believe.

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ahh my girl has a 92 prelude si .. its quick but still not fast.. nor is the maxima. lets face it we have slow cars unless we turbo and even then its not without a high cost factor.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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LOL, that max got smoked. I'ma have to do a run from 0 to 100 to see if my stock max is that slow.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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My friends got a 95 prelude si and it can def move it's not even the vtec version and from 0-50 it's about quarter car length ahead we are both auto my first gear is much longer then his. Then we did from about 60-120 and he supposebly said he didn't punch it all the way but i believe he did cause he was probally about 1 car lengh ahead as we hit 120 but hes in the redline at that point i'm just getting up to about 5500 so i have a lot more room then him
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SkylineGTR
You're too quick to judge the Honda as a slow car. That model Prelude, especially in the early year models was around 2850lbs, and the one in the video was a 5spd. H22A motor, thats 2.2L VTEC 200hp. 7400rpm or so indicated redline, 8k fuel cutoff. Prelude had intake and header, those cars with i/h/e are capable of mid 14s with like 95mph trap speeds. I don't get whats so hard to believe.

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h22a had 190 hp (found in 92-96 preludes (not all))
h22a4 200hp (found in 97+ preludes)

but the 92-96 generation ended up being faster, because it was much lighter
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kashoggio
ahh my girl has a 92 prelude si .. its quick but still not fast.. nor is the maxima. lets face it we have slow cars unless we turbo and even then its not without a high cost factor.

Prelude Si isn't the VTEC motor. The H22A is a VTEC. If I'm not mistaken, the 1992 Prelude came only in a S and an Si. I think 1993 was the first USDM VTEC Prelude.

We have slow cars unless we turbo?






















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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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If the car in the video is indeed a 1992 Prelude, then the H22A has to have been swapped in. The standard 2.3L that came in the non VTEC Prelude of that year, I want to say Si but don't quote me, had a transmission that would bolt right up to the H22A. Downside being that the gearing wasn't the best for an H22a, but would be cheaper than getting a new transmission as well.

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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There was a '92 with the VTEC designation and the H22A1 motor. 190 HP@6800 158 TQ@5500 7500 redline...
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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But a 92 prelude SI is non vtec.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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98 maxima se my ***. it was a gxe and it was most likely an auto. i didnt see any wheel spin
Old Nov 2, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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Warren (Veetec) who has the fastest stock 4th gen 1/4 mile time used to have a 4th gen lude with bolt-ons only that went 13.7@102?mph. They can be really mean.
Old Nov 2, 2003 | 01:08 AM
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i dont know but i think that car is a little slow...if i see my speed at 100-130 mph it go up really fast, not slow as that car. My top speed for my autmagic is 139 mph...with end road, i think the engine give more.
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