pros and cons of a SC
10-16-2003, 11:24 AM
#1
pros and cons of a SC
Can you guys give me some pros and cons of a SC. Here's my situation I really don't want to get rid of my y-pipe. I don't really want extreme horsepower. Stealin says there SC make 95 HP so I would be at 280HP which would be fine for me. I plan on swapping trannies (2k1 20th VLSD).
To me it sounds like the most problem people have is slipping belts, What could I do to prevent that from happening.
To me it sounds like the most problem people have is slipping belts, What could I do to prevent that from happening.
10-16-2003, 11:44 AM
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I don't really understand your post. Y-pipes work fine with the Stillen kit, stock or aftermarket. An aftermarket one will give a LOT more gain though.
Stillens HP estimates are at the crank, so if the 2000-2001 have 220hp rated by nissan, you'd have 315, which with a 18% loss, equates to ~260ish fwhp. 260 still seems a bit high to me with a stock exhaust and 3.6" pulley, but you can always swap a smaller pulley in if you're after more horsepower. Belt slippage is all dependant on what type of belt you use and how tight you keep it. If it's slipping, it's most likely not tight enough.
The only other problem is the V2 tends to shred belts a little more often.
Stillens HP estimates are at the crank, so if the 2000-2001 have 220hp rated by nissan, you'd have 315, which with a 18% loss, equates to ~260ish fwhp. 260 still seems a bit high to me with a stock exhaust and 3.6" pulley, but you can always swap a smaller pulley in if you're after more horsepower. Belt slippage is all dependant on what type of belt you use and how tight you keep it. If it's slipping, it's most likely not tight enough.
The only other problem is the V2 tends to shred belts a little more often.
10-16-2003, 11:57 AM
#3
Originally Posted by ereet
I don't really understand your post. Y-pipes work fine with the Stillen kit, stock or aftermarket. An aftermarket one will give a LOT more gain though.
Stillens HP estimates are at the crank, so if the 2000-2001 have 220hp rated by nissan, you'd have 315, which with a 18% loss, equates to ~260ish fwhp. 260 still seems a bit high to me with a stock exhaust and 3.6" pulley, but you can always swap a smaller pulley in if you're after more horsepower. Belt slippage is all dependant on what type of belt you use and how tight you keep it. If it's slipping, it's most likely not tight enough.
The only other problem is the V2 tends to shred belts a little more often.
Stillens HP estimates are at the crank, so if the 2000-2001 have 220hp rated by nissan, you'd have 315, which with a 18% loss, equates to ~260ish fwhp. 260 still seems a bit high to me with a stock exhaust and 3.6" pulley, but you can always swap a smaller pulley in if you're after more horsepower. Belt slippage is all dependant on what type of belt you use and how tight you keep it. If it's slipping, it's most likely not tight enough.
The only other problem is the V2 tends to shred belts a little more often.
I will most likely run stock pulley.
10-16-2003, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MyownNismo
I forgot to delete the part of the y-pipe since I was going to do pros and cons of a sc and turbo but decided that I will probably just go SC.
I will most likely run stock pulley.
I will most likely run stock pulley.
stock pulley + stock ypipe = still cant smoke a CLS.
jer got a 0.7s on 1/4 with aftermarket ypipe and SC.
10-17-2003, 01:40 AM
#8
Originally Posted by Stephen Max
That is a con I was going mention. Lust for more power.
Lust for more power could happen. I don't have stock Y-pipe I have an Cattman. I guess I would just have to keep a SC emergency kit which would include new belts and tools needed to handle a breakdown on the road. What about fuel management how much would I have to do to keep that running in proper order. Like upgrade fuel pump, FPR, how about a SAFC II. What about Stand Alone fuel Mangement.
10-17-2003, 05:42 AM
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You ll have belt problems if the plate is not properly aligned. Missing bolts or stand off bolts to align the plate may contribute to shredding belts. I owned a V2. It was a very reliable set up. I never had one problem.
10-17-2003, 01:00 PM
#11
Originally Posted by BlackCat
If you do a search on my V2 experience you'll see that belt problems only came up 3 times in my 3 years of ownership.
What about fuel mangement what is key to keeping car running.
10-17-2003, 01:13 PM
#12
Originally Posted by MyownNismo
Would you say to get it installed professionally or could it be a DIY job.
What about fuel mangement what is key to keeping car running.
What about fuel mangement what is key to keeping car running.
I originally had mine installed by a speed shop that installed Vortechs on Mustangs. With the org's help I was able to tinker around and learn how to tear down and reinstall the blower.
10-18-2003, 01:39 AM
#13
Originally Posted by BlackCat
I originally had mine installed by a speed shop that installed Vortechs on Mustangs. With the org's help I was able to tinker around and learn how to tear down and reinstall the blower.
I figure I will run the next pulley from stock and from reading other threads it would be 8PSI. Adding a BOV also helps. With running the second pulley would I need to add a better fuel pump. reading that injectors would be fine. Any help with fuel management is needed to clarify and run the SC safely. Thanks for all your help.
10-18-2003, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nazgul350r
just watching
10-18-2003, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JAY25
You ll have belt problems if the plate is not properly aligned. Missing bolts or stand off bolts to align the plate may contribute to shredding belts. I owned a V2. It was a very reliable set up. I never had one problem.
everyone on here who has had problems with the belts coming off or tearing off are all due to the install being done incorrectly.....
jay i got the warpspeed straight pipe
this is me now...
holy nutz... what a difference
10-18-2003, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenGlory
i highly agree with jay here. jeff installed my blower back in feb and not one single problem. my belt is still fine... dry rotted and crack it stands now...thats because of the abuse that belt is goin thru. and its been 10,000 miles almost since the install.
everyone on here who has had problems with the belts coming off or tearing off are all due to the install being done incorrectly.....
jay i got the warpspeed straight pipe
this is me now...
holy nutz... what a difference
everyone on here who has had problems with the belts coming off or tearing off are all due to the install being done incorrectly.....
jay i got the warpspeed straight pipe
this is me now...
holy nutz... what a difference
all that pressured air in has to flow out as fast as possible. Makes sense now
10-18-2003, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JAY25
all that pressured air in has to flow out as fast as possible. Makes sense now
yea bro,since the install of the straight pipe my car is a complete different beast now.
cant wait to go WOT...maybe when this weather settles..
10-19-2003, 12:01 PM
#19
Originally Posted by MyownNismo
Lust for more power could happen. I don't have stock Y-pipe I have an Cattman. I guess I would just have to keep a SC emergency kit which would include new belts and tools needed to handle a breakdown on the road. What about fuel management how much would I have to do to keep that running in proper order. Like upgrade fuel pump, FPR, how about a SAFC II. What about Stand Alone fuel Mangement.upgrade the fuel pump to walbro high pressure and get yourself a fuel pressure gauge. (electric one)
FMU ratio - depends on what pulley are u running. anything below 3.33, use an 8:1. adjustable FMU is recommended if you want to fine tune the car.
FPR - if your peak fuel pressure is high, use adjustable FPR to lower base fuel pressure so you will have more room to boost your fuel.
stand along management - you will need larger injectors to do this.....we will soon find out if a larger injector is available for VQ30DE-k
have fun ~
10-19-2003, 01:59 PM
#20
Originally Posted by [maxi-overdose]
upgrade the fuel pump to walbro high pressure and get yourself a fuel pressure gauge. (electric one)
FMU ratio - depends on what pulley are u running. anything below 3.33, use an 8:1. adjustable FMU is recommended if you want to fine tune the car.
FPR - if your peak fuel pressure is high, use adjustable FPR to lower base fuel pressure so you will have more room to boost your fuel.
stand along management - you will need larger injectors to do this.....we will soon find out if a larger injector is available for VQ30DE-k
have fun ~
FMU ratio - depends on what pulley are u running. anything below 3.33, use an 8:1. adjustable FMU is recommended if you want to fine tune the car.
FPR - if your peak fuel pressure is high, use adjustable FPR to lower base fuel pressure so you will have more room to boost your fuel.
stand along management - you will need larger injectors to do this.....we will soon find out if a larger injector is available for VQ30DE-k
have fun ~
10-20-2003, 12:44 AM
#22
Originally Posted by ToYLeT902
Pro: My car is fast
Con: its still a maxima
Con: its still a maxima
10-20-2003, 12:47 AM
#23
Originally Posted by MyownNismo
Yes there is now hope of getting my SC I am getting a second job at an airline company where I will work two days for $10.00. Good news is if I get hired I get unlimited plane rides so I can go anywhere I want for free.
10-20-2003, 04:02 AM
#27
Originally Posted by ToYLeT902
So what are you doing next month?
Originally Posted by GoldenGlory
there u go..come pick up ur VB MOD!!!
10-21-2003, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by slimer
definitely vb all the way!
10-22-2003, 12:33 AM
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If you decide to get the SC, install it with at least the 3.33 pulley, it'll rid you of headaches later of not "feeling" the boost. May I also suggest staying away from VB mods and just getting the 5-spd conversion before boosting, the auto tranny will not hold the boost and you WILL have to get a rebuild within weeks. The VB is only going to make the 1-2 gear shift faster, but it will not live up to shifting fast enough for the SC after awhile.
10-24-2003, 08:49 PM
#33
Originally Posted by ereet
I agree. You may want to hire USDM-A32 the anti-auto advocate on your 5speed upgrade too, since he can have it done for a "few" hundred dollars. 
10-27-2003, 03:51 PM
#34
Originally Posted by MyownNismo
I found a place here in MN that will install for $600.00. But I am going to put some of the easy stuff in.
I just might be the only one that has blown up a manual tranny with the SC.
If you have time and patients, the install is not that bad. But if you find someone to install it cheap, go for it. The stress and the weak instruction from Stilen will make you kick your dog and yell at your kids.
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