Supercharged/Turbocharged The increase in air/fuel pressure above atmospheric pressure in the intake system caused by the action of a supercharger or turbocharger attached to an engine.

Well...to those who WANT boost - is it for you?

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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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Well...to those who WANT boost - is it for you?

I sure am glad Dixit is around

Well, long awaited for my 4th gen - I finally got one....and since ATL is one of the highest boosted Maxima cities - it of course makes me want to be boosted. Not to be like Jaime, Jaime, Dixit, Bags, Erik, brodaiga, Jeff or Oss....but to see the joy it CAN bring to them once everything goes right.

Money and time are the 2 biggest factors with boost. Those are the ONE factor that stand out when compared to the rest. And it seems like this:

-Boost is meant for some people
-Some people are meant for boost
-Some people want to try too hard and in the longrun....f*ck somethin up..(which will probably be me)

My question to the NON-boosted readers of this post is -- Even if you can afford a turbo/SC/n20 and ALL the upgrades involved....(from a Mevi to ECU...etc) ------ Do you think it's right for you? No one can ever anticipate EVERYTHING.

I.E. - When bags got his turbo done....I bet you anything he said to himself -- "OK...I'm about to turbocharge a damn Maxima, it hasnt been around a while, and it's not the 110% smartest things to do.....but f*ck it, I want a damn turbo. I know I cant expect EVERYTHING to go right at first, but I'll make it work."..........OR SOMETHING along those lines.

All the shiat that's happened to Kirk's car in the past 9 or so months - I know he didn't anticipate all that happening.

BUT - I remember this::: Like 3 days before Bags drove off to KT, we had a meet....and when I found he was goin turbo with A/T (BTW - this was the 1st day I met Kirk) - I asked him "arent you gonna blow your tranny?" - he told me keep readin on the .org.....



ANYWAY - Once you take into consideration everything that COULD and maybe WILL go wrong - it makes you think twice. Now - I'm dumbfounded whether or not to do it. Even though ATL is REAL fortunate to have all these guys that know SO MUCH - (Jay, Dizit, Justin, Erik, Jaime......etc etc)


er.....my fingers hurt
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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i dont think twice

i know theres problems but i figure if i can change the engine in my max i can put a turbo on it and make it work so thats it then i want to be one of the very few that do turbo a max especially a 3rd gen

since you got all the others around you that are turboed you shouldnt have as many problems fixing things because more than likely they have already expierenced the issue and know how to resolve it
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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the key is knowing as much as possible...going into it blindy is not the way to go. do your reaserch and know whats best and whats not, even if you aren't mechanically inclined and don't do any of your own work, simple knowledge is enough. plus blowing motors is half the fun...
Old Dec 23, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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It all comes down to are you prepared to spend the money to fix the issues and be prepared to deal with all the crap it brings? If not, dont do it. Its simple as that cause if you need a realible car, this aint for you at all.

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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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I haven't had the joy of owning a boosted car yet, but I have definately done work on em. I'm from the Seattle area, and its seems that we only have one boosted max every 3-600 miles (Blackcat's in BC, iansw here in Seattle, and Maximan in Oregon). I worked on 2 of the three we have here. Of course they are all 4th gens. They are very involved, and your constantly tweaking or fixing something. That's why I'm so interested in getting a 5th gen boosting that, and possibly doing the z31 VG30ET drop (which is surprisingly not very difficult, just time consuming because parts have to be made) into my 2nd gen. I personally am a guy that likes to tweak things and play with it. I absolutely love working on cars, and I think I'm pretty lucky I get to help Ian out with his car so often and occasionally get to work on Eric's (Maximan) car.

I think that having a boosted car, there should be no reason for anyone to think it's as simple as just throwing it in. Your just asking for trouble. Even if it comes with a turbo or s/c from the factory. You have to be ready to deal with unexpected. I myself don't mind the unexpected. It gives me an excuse to pop open the hood and do something to the car. And along comes one of the most known sayings: You have to pay to play. Whether it be in money or time.

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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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damn man, after reading all your posts, now i'm thinking twice about popping in my s/c. maybe i should just sell. i cant worry about my car breaking down all the time and having to send money on fixing it.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 05:28 AM
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you got yourself a 99 max. I have two more boosted kits in the garage. Pick one NOS, or SCer? Problems, you think you ll have any if you go boosted? probably not. Everyone has been there done that. You've assisted in alot of the installs. Now go get some springs and lower that car. You know you have to be like master Jedi. Fast Rice!
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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Sir Jaime the Great! Just a matter of $$ now....
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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Well I had to add my 2 pesos in on this one. My car (which is in new mexico right now while I am on my DOD vacation) is currently running a 60 shot in it. When I get home im gonna raise that to a 100 shot after I add the fuel pump and some other things to make sure I dont go bang. While im doing this I will also be building up a motor for 20psi of boost. Most of you have probably heard or seen that I bought the rods and pistons from on_alert and as soon as I get home im going to get Mckinney motorsport to help me build this thing right. To me ive had my maxima for about 4 years now and I love that thing to death and if it takes me 3 years or so to build it to were I want it then so be it. Just boosting it is half the battle, the interior and exterior are gonan cost way more than the turbo setup. Well good luck to all of ya boosting and lets all help each other learn from our screw ups. I know im gonna have some here and there who doesnt.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDogJonx
It all comes down to are you prepared to spend the money to fix the issues and be prepared to deal with all the crap it brings? If not, dont do it. Its simple as that cause if you need a realible car, this aint for you at all.

Dixit
that is why I have just stuck with bolt ons. i would love to turbo my I30, but I am not going to fool my self. I am not in the position to have my daily driver causing me any more problems then it does now. If I were to go with boost I would have to do it right, which means have a second car to drive and enough money to drop on a new motor in a moments notice. Sure I could scrap up enough money to buy a turbo "kit" (or all necessary items to build one), but that would leave me broke and in a really tight spot if something bad happend. That is just not a responsible way to live.

As much as I would love to have over 350hp and run 12's, I am having plenty of fun trying to run 13's NA. Turbo is in my future, but with a different car and a larger income.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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I do not have a boosted car yet, but probally be reayd during the summer. I don't know about you, but I love working on my car. Everybody has told me to take it to a mechanic or that is too hard for me to do but I have always gotten it done. I think this would give me a chance to work with my car even more.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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If you have the money, then it doesn't really matter if you deserve boost or it deserves you. I don't need to have boost of any kind, but I would like to take that step for the rest of the 3.5L folks out there...just so they know it can be done.
Old Dec 24, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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The biggest thing I learned the hard way...

you can't drive the car ***** to the wal 24/7

It's a matter of understanding what all of your cars componets are going through when your redlineing every gear.

Is it right for me? Yes

Could I have done better? Yes

Would I go back? No

Is it right for you? MAYBE

Is it a install set up 1 time and forget about? NO Not NOS, SC, Turbo

You will need to adjust things for the rest of the time it's on the car.

Even after you dyno tune, you need to go back and check to make sure all the parts are doing there jobs
Old Dec 26, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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I would say if you have the smallest doubt then it's not for you. Boosted car are not for everyone specially if you are not mecanically incline and you rely on other for most of the work and tweaking then I would say dont do it otherwise your dream can become a nightmare. Unless you are loaded of cash even though buy a M3-M5 or any fast car.

Just my 2cents.

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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Well, I'm not mechanically inclined....but everyone learns new things everyday....am I wrong?


But I agree with MikeD - that's 100% true. It may happen....it may not. We shall see
Old Dec 26, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bijan gxe
Well, I'm not mechanically inclined....but everyone learns new things everyday....am I wrong?
I dunno, maybe its just me, but starting flat out with FI and having little experience with standard repairs/modification is not the way to start...steps before leaps IMO.
Old Dec 26, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DA-MAX
having little experience with standard repairs/modification is not the way to start...

Well - it's not that I have little experiance....I just dont have as much as Dixit, Jay, Bags....etc.


It just comes down to what bags said too - you gotta pay to play
Old Dec 28, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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This is where the saying comes into, you gotta pay if you wanna play.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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When I'll turbo my max, I'll do it right. It will be my weekend toy, sitting in the garage most of the time. I'll get a built motor with lower compression pistons so I can run lots of boost more safely.

I dream of a turbo every time I drive my car, but as I30Mike said, it's just not feasible at the position I'm in right now. My car has to get me to work every day and I can't have it break on me until I can afford another one.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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Well, I made a big mistake......I drove my brothers sr20det s13 that is pusing a tad over one bar of boost. Now I can't stop thinking of going turbo.
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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Boost is like a drug for me. I do not drink are smoke but when people are getting drunk or what ever they do I am out boosting.I do not have a boosted maxima yet but I do have a turboed CRX. God,I love my life!!!!!!!!!
Old Jan 22, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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i am not boosted yet, infact i just recently was just sitting at work, and i was fliping threw this really old magazine, and came accros a supercharged max all stillen, now for the past 2 weeks i cant stop thinking about a supercharger. I am sorta mechanicly inclined when it comes to working on the maxima engine, but ive been trying to gather as much info on a supercharger as i could. I just want a supercharger to play with every now and then, like when someone thinks there the shyt next to you at a light, just to hand them there ***.. what the worst that could happen if you SC and dont really tune as much as u should, or just buy the bolt on kit, and slap it on there?
Old Jan 23, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Synki
This is where the saying comes into, you gotta pay if you wanna play.
Exactly. I went into boosting prepared to have to fix or replace just about everything. I bought everything I needed (clutch, guages, etc) before I even thought about installing the SC.

When my engine blew, I was prepared and had a "plan" to get the car running again.
Old Jan 23, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by d1max2nv
i am not boosted yet, infact i just recently was just sitting at work, and i was fliping threw this really old magazine, and came accros a supercharged max all stillen, now for the past 2 weeks i cant stop thinking about a supercharger...... what the worst that could happen if you SC and dont really tune as much as u should, or just buy the bolt on kit, and slap it on there?

Was that old magazine article you found about Stillen a Road&Track magazine?
If so I still have that magazine!

I slapped on the SC right out of the box Oct. 2000 and haven't tuned it at all. It functions well but I'm not reaping its full potential of hp at the moment. Its my daily driver and the only problems I had was a slipping belt during the 2000 and 2001 winter seasons.

The SC demands the owner to be more mechanically inclined. I had a speed shop do the initial install. I've changed the belt a few times already due to misalignment (my fault) after I changed the pulley from 3.60" to 3.33" and I had to redo the bearings because I overtightened the drive belt back in Nov. 2002. I've now got a 3.25" pulley in a box with the FMU upgrade ready to go in but its a pain to take it apart. It was daunting at first but I certainly learned alot more about the SC. As maximase86 has pointed out "You have to pay to play. Whether it be in money or time." and I totally agree with this statement.
Old Jan 23, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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Was that old magazine article you found about Stillen a Road&Track magazine?
If so I still have that magazine!

I slapped on the SC right out of the box Oct. 2000 and haven't tuned it at all. It functions well but I'm not reaping its full potential of hp at the moment. Its my daily driver and the only problems I had was a slipping belt during the 2000 and 2001 winter seasons.

The SC demands the owner to be more mechanically inclined. I had a speed shop do the initial install. I've changed the belt a few times already due to misalignment (my fault) after I changed the pulley from 3.60" to 3.33" and I had to redo the bearings because I overtightened the drive belt back in Nov. 2002. I've now got a 3.25" pulley in a box with the FMU upgrade ready to go in but its a pain to take it apart. It was daunting at first but I certainly learned alot more about the SC. As maximase86 has pointed out "You have to pay to play. Whether it be in money or time." and I totally agree with this statement.

yeah thats the magazine, shyt just hot.... I want one so bad...... i had put my bags on the car like 3 days before i seen that article, then i took them off the day that i read that article thats how bad i want boost....
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 03:02 AM
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If I had the money today... I would definitely do it! But the real problem is time since I just started my business. I won't have time til probably by end of the year to even start with hunting for a t3/t4 unit and other components needed to put it together, plus engine management and fuel delivery solutions. Since I have another vehicle that I can use for daily driving needs, I can afford to park the Maxima and have her all in pieces and not worry if I get stuck during the installation or tuning process.
Old Jan 24, 2004 | 03:11 AM
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The worst thing that can happen is when someone like hlh0501, iansw, or maxi-overdose pulls up next to you at a light wanting to blow the doors off of your car with their big turbo/nitrous VQ's. Then be prepared to cry.

Originally Posted by d1max2nv
...I just want a supercharger to play with every now and then, like when someone thinks there the shyt next to you at a light, just to hand them there ***.. what the worst that could happen if you SC and dont really tune as much as u should, or just buy the bolt on kit, and slap it on there?
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