How to set throttle settings on emanage?
03-27-2005, 01:14 PM
#1
How to set throttle settings on emanage?
for some reason emanage is not letting me set the throttle setting . Looking in the directions it shows a window that allows you to do this but i can't get that window to come up. Does anyone have an idea why i can't do the throttle position setup.
03-27-2005, 05:06 PM
#2
did you double check that you connected the TPS wire to the right wire on the ECU??
are you using the suppot tool and laptop? if so when you open the support tool prgram and goto the parameter setting? can you select the "Throttle settings" button?? and also can you open the datalogging screen and get any TPS reading when pressing the gas?? (in ACC w/ engine off)
are you using the suppot tool and laptop? if so when you open the support tool prgram and goto the parameter setting? can you select the "Throttle settings" button?? and also can you open the datalogging screen and get any TPS reading when pressing the gas?? (in ACC w/ engine off)
03-27-2005, 07:01 PM
#4
Originally Posted by DA-MAX
did you double check that you connected the TPS wire to the right wire on the ECU??
are you using the suppot tool and laptop? if so when you open the support tool prgram and goto the parameter setting? can you select the "Throttle settings" button?? and also can you open the datalogging screen and get any TPS reading when pressing the gas?? (in ACC w/ engine off)
are you using the suppot tool and laptop? if so when you open the support tool prgram and goto the parameter setting? can you select the "Throttle settings" button?? and also can you open the datalogging screen and get any TPS reading when pressing the gas?? (in ACC w/ engine off)
I have the tps wire hooked up (it is the gray wire on emanage harness correct?) It says i am getting .55 volts without me touching the throttle. It will not give me the option to set it up( the procedure where you give it 0 throttle then give it 100% throttle). I haven't tried the dattalogging to get a TPS reading. Can you explain that alittle more?
I just hope the gray wire is the correct wire because in the directions it doesn't color code the tps wire
03-28-2005, 12:05 PM
#6
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
0.55 Volts sounds correct for closed position, however check WOT also.
now when i give it full throttle i am getting 3.9 volts which looks correct.
The other day when i started the car and it reved to 3k and then died. This was without the TPS wire hooked up. Would that have been the problem?
03-28-2005, 12:32 PM
#8
does 3.9 sound kinda low to anyone?? I know it says 3.5-4.9...but I don't think I've ever seen much lower than 4.5+/- @ 100% on most any car. but its strange because obviously the Emanage is reading your TPS voltage....after the install what did you enter as far as settings in the Parameter screen??
are you getting any error codes from the emanage at ACC? what about when you rev it? is it still cutting out at 3k rpm and what MAF are you using with the 510s?
the datalogging screen I was talking about was simply the "real time communication" screen under the communication pulldown menu that grpahs and displays values, but you 've already been there.
are you getting any error codes from the emanage at ACC? what about when you rev it? is it still cutting out at 3k rpm and what MAF are you using with the 510s?
the datalogging screen I was talking about was simply the "real time communication" screen under the communication pulldown menu that grpahs and displays values, but you 've already been there.
03-28-2005, 12:38 PM
#10
Manual says.....
If the Throttle Setting is not properly programmed, the Anti Engine Stall and Air Flow Adjustment Map will not function properly.
When performing the Throttle Setting, make sure that the IGNITION key is turned to the "ON" position.(engine should be "OFF"
When performing the Throttle Setting, make sure that the IGNITION key is turned to the "ON" position.(engine should be "OFF"
03-28-2005, 12:41 PM
#14
Originally Posted by DA-MAX
does 3.9 sound kinda low to anyone?? I know it says 3.5-4.9...but I don't think I've ever seen much lower than 4.5+/- @ 100% on most any car. but its strange because obviously the Emanage is reading your TPS voltage....after the install what did you enter as far as settings in the Parameter screen??
are you getting any error codes from the emanage at ACC? what about when you rev it? is it still cutting out at 3k rpm and what MAF are you using with the 510s?
the datalogging screen I was talking about was simply the "real time communication" screen under the communication pulldown menu that grpahs and displays values, but you 've already been there.
are you getting any error codes from the emanage at ACC? what about when you rev it? is it still cutting out at 3k rpm and what MAF are you using with the 510s?
the datalogging screen I was talking about was simply the "real time communication" screen under the communication pulldown menu that grpahs and displays values, but you 've already been there.
No error codes, When i crank the car it revs to 3k rpm on its own then holds for a second then cutts out(this is with out me touching anything
). In the parameter setting i only adjusted the injector conversion. It would not allow me to give me the option to make any changes to the TPS
03-28-2005, 12:43 PM
#15
Originally Posted by chris'smax
No error codes, When i crank the car it revs to 3k rpm on its own then holds for a second then cutts out(this is with out me touching anything ).
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03-28-2005, 12:47 PM
#17
Originally Posted by DA-MAX
whats the TPS voltage at when it does this?
I don't know since when it did this the TPS wire was not hooked up
. I didn't notice it till i was going over my wiring again. I wired the emanage up when i was extremely tired so i guess i had a brain fart
03-28-2005, 12:49 PM
#18
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Chris,
You must get the TPS calibrated first.
As DA-MAX clarified(my Support Tool is MIA), you need that for the AirFlow map to work along with related injector scaling.
You must get the TPS calibrated first.
As DA-MAX clarified(my Support Tool is MIA), you need that for the AirFlow map to work along with related injector scaling.
Mooooothhhher FFFoooCCCCKKKER i hate this thing. Why won't it just let me calibrate the damn tps
03-28-2005, 12:51 PM
#19
I have a feeling it's either a simple "check box" or option you're not seeing, so play in the menus.
Or it could be you bought this off eBay and it may have been preconfigured for a unique vehicle application that doesn't need the TPS option and it wasn't enabled. I know the eManage can be "locked" by dealers/Greddy, so I wouldn't doubt it.
Or it could be you bought this off eBay and it may have been preconfigured for a unique vehicle application that doesn't need the TPS option and it wasn't enabled. I know the eManage can be "locked" by dealers/Greddy, so I wouldn't doubt it.
03-28-2005, 01:45 PM
#20
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I have a feeling it's either a simple "check box" or option you're not seeing, so play in the menus.
Or it could be you bought this off eBay and it may have been preconfigured for a unique vehicle application that doesn't need the TPS option and it wasn't enabled. I know the eManage can be "locked" by dealers/Greddy, so I wouldn't doubt it.
Or it could be you bought this off eBay and it may have been preconfigured for a unique vehicle application that doesn't need the TPS option and it wasn't enabled. I know the eManage can be "locked" by dealers/Greddy, so I wouldn't doubt it.
I bought the unit from option imports and the support tool brand new from one of the ebay stores
03-28-2005, 02:47 PM
#22
well i just got off the phone w/ greddy and they said that the new version does not require the tps learning procedure. The tech said it automattically does it on its own. I also asked him about why my car is doing what it is doing and he said i am using to big of injectors and the emanage is trying to compensate to much 
. I know gabriel is using the same injectors so i am wondering if my FMU is now the culprit. It is the 8:1 fmu with the t-rex wired to stay on constantly. I think the t-rex is causing the excessive fuel dump ?
. I know gabriel is using the same injectors so i am wondering if my FMU is now the culprit. It is the 8:1 fmu with the t-rex wired to stay on constantly. I think the t-rex is causing the excessive fuel dump ?
03-28-2005, 03:13 PM
#24
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
You DEFINITELY don't need/want the Trex running at startup/idle.
Then try turning down the base fuel pressure w/AFPR from 34psi to 20-25psi or as low as you can go and have it idle.
Then try turning down the base fuel pressure w/AFPR from 34psi to 20-25psi or as low as you can go and have it idle.
So you think that would be the problem?
03-28-2005, 03:20 PM
#28
what are you future plans for the air/fuel system??
can the 3.0l 5th gen use the Z32 MAF?? an in-tank fuel pump would definently help too...not a big fan of aux pumps. but with the Z MAF than you can tone down the scaling to 370->510, rather than the way you have it now stock->510...that'll probably help a lot.
can the 3.0l 5th gen use the Z32 MAF?? an in-tank fuel pump would definently help too...not a big fan of aux pumps. but with the Z MAF than you can tone down the scaling to 370->510, rather than the way you have it now stock->510...that'll probably help a lot.
03-28-2005, 03:55 PM
#29
well its not the t-rex. I unhooked it and it still did the same thing. Could it be that there is a vaccum line or something else i left unhooked when taking off the manifold. Would that cause this self reving?
03-28-2005, 03:59 PM
#30
I've heard of intake manifold/vacuum leaks causing a high idle...not sure about high rev at startup though.
I'd leave the Trex disconnected for now, but don't forget to hook it back up before you start boosting.
I'd leave the Trex disconnected for now, but don't forget to hook it back up before you start boosting.
03-28-2005, 04:39 PM
#33
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Also, if you haven't already, disconnect that GREY eManage TPS wire.
Did you try feathering the gas to keep it from stalling? If so, what happens?
Did you try feathering the gas to keep it from stalling? If so, what happens?
the symptoms i described occured with the tps wire hooked up and unhooked
03-29-2005, 04:37 PM
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IF YOU ARE GOING WITH A LARGER INJECTOR AND EMANAGE YOU NEED A INJECTOR HARNESS! IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE THEN THATS WHATS FLOODING YOUR ENGINE!
Go to ligtning and tell them to 2nd day air a injector harness so the injectors can get the correct pulse using the larger injector.
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Go to ligtning and tell them to 2nd day air a injector harness so the injectors can get the correct pulse using the larger injector.
Get back with us!
03-29-2005, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Jay,
The injector harness is only used to ADD fuel via additional IPW, while the MAF conditioning is used to subtract fuel by scaling/modifying MAF voltage.
The injector harness is only used to ADD fuel via additional IPW, while the MAF conditioning is used to subtract fuel by scaling/modifying MAF voltage.
No he needs the injector harness. Explain to us how is the emanage going to control the larger injectors? You can change the settings in the Emanage but how is it going to repulse the injector?
How does the MAF control a larger injector flow with a 350Z? I am talking about at idle, not while boosting. I understand what you are talking about.
Who has the Emanage, myself, Mardi and Dixit anyone else? I just got off the phone with this guy and hes all bent out of shape pist off because peeps here gave him some bum scoop.
03-29-2005, 05:01 PM
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One more thing, if he adds a 7th injector how does emanage control that?
Ask him can he even see injector duty cycle on his laptop? He should not see injector duty cycle. I sent him off to get the $35 injector harness. If thats the case then he should have left his SAFC II.
Ask him can he even see injector duty cycle on his laptop? He should not see injector duty cycle. I sent him off to get the $35 injector harness. If thats the case then he should have left his SAFC II.
03-29-2005, 05:05 PM
#38
Jay, sorry but you are wrong you DON'T need the injector harness to do anything but add fuel if supplementing stock injectors, using extra injectors and/or datalog pulsewidth.
Optional Injection Harness – This splices into the stock fuel injectors
for control and logging. With this harness, you can directly add
pulsewidth to the stock injectors and datalog their activity. You can
also directly control 2 additional injectors as well. This retails for
$38.50.
(direct from the Mohd/Greddy FAQ)
the main unit will rescale injectors without the harness, because it is the ONLY thing registering and alter air flow.
E-manage Support Tool – Now we're getting somewhere. Included in the
kit is a serial to USB cable and a CD with the Support Tool software.
The cable is proprietary, and not a standard cable. The software
unlocks the full potential of the E-manage – 16x16 fuel maps, changing
airflow meters, using the other optional harnesses, etc.
no he won't be able to datalog his IDCs, but thats of no concern, he should still be able to 100% make a fuel map and tailor his fuel curve using the Air Flow Map.
Optional Injection Harness – This splices into the stock fuel injectors
for control and logging. With this harness, you can directly add
pulsewidth to the stock injectors and datalog their activity. You can
also directly control 2 additional injectors as well. This retails for
$38.50.
(direct from the Mohd/Greddy FAQ)
the main unit will rescale injectors without the harness, because it is the ONLY thing registering and alter air flow.
E-manage Support Tool – Now we're getting somewhere. Included in the
kit is a serial to USB cable and a CD with the Support Tool software.
The cable is proprietary, and not a standard cable. The software
unlocks the full potential of the E-manage – 16x16 fuel maps, changing
airflow meters, using the other optional harnesses, etc.
no he won't be able to datalog his IDCs, but thats of no concern, he should still be able to 100% make a fuel map and tailor his fuel curve using the Air Flow Map.
03-29-2005, 05:10 PM
#39
I really think he is trying to do too BIG injector scaling on the stock MAF.... 290cc to 510cc(which might even actually be flowing slightly higher than that) might only correct about .56, but can the A32 MAF physically accept this?
03-29-2005, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DA-MAX
I really think he is trying to do too BIG injector scaling on the stock MAF.... 290cc to 510cc(which might even actually be flowing slightly higher than that) might only correct about .56, but can the A32 MAF physically accept this?
so how did Dixit control his injectors? They both have the same generation vehicles. Dixit was pushing an ungodly amount of boost? Are you running Emanage w/larger injectors and no injector harness? if yes what size?