clicking from top of the motor...
07-04-2005, 08:40 PM
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clicking from top of the motor...
i am getting clicking from the top section of the motor. it is pretty slow (but faster than the IACV clicking) but as rpms increase the speed of the ticking also increases. would my injectors be clicking if they are bad? i have heard the noise before then it went away and its back after a hard romp from 1st through 3rd.
if not the injectors could it be something else? valves? just need some insight. thanks.
--Paul
if not the injectors could it be something else? valves? just need some insight. thanks.
--Paul
07-04-2005, 10:17 PM
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Well injectors do click, I'd do the ol' s***hascope trick and take a piece of vac tubing, and start putting one end up to your ear and the other end to parts of your engine (injectors, etc) and see if you can isolate it.
07-05-2005, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Requin6
i am getting clicking from the top section of the motor. it is pretty slow (but faster than the IACV clicking) but as rpms increase the speed of the ticking also increases. would my injectors be clicking if they are bad? i have heard the noise before then it went away and its back after a hard romp from 1st through 3rd.
if not the injectors could it be something else? valves? just need some insight. thanks.
--Paul
if not the injectors could it be something else? valves? just need some insight. thanks.
--Paul
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07-06-2005, 01:52 PM
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I'm having that same clicking right now. It doesn't seem to be the injectors, so I guess I'll check the IACV. That's the only part that's been constant. I had this sound w/ stock injectors, 370's, now the 660's. And it happened w/ my old motor as well as the new one.
07-06-2005, 05:33 PM
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i havent really messed with it...but the noise is annoying as hell. it sounds like a card stuck in the spokes of a bicycle tire. now i am getting a strange burning smell.
07-07-2005, 09:09 AM
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Haha, I tried Seafoam too, and it didn't make any difference. I honestly don't think that stuff works.
Good luck finding the problem.
Good luck finding the problem.
Originally Posted by Requin6
ran some seafoam through it...didnt help one bit.
i guess its time to put the stock injectors in and see if the noise subsides.
i guess its time to put the stock injectors in and see if the noise subsides.
07-08-2005, 07:28 AM
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i noticed a little puff of smoke (2 seconds) that came out on the timing chain side. the smell is also there still. if i had a problem with the timing chain...would it be making this ticking noise and giving off a strange burning smell?
the ticking is relative to the RPMs as i rev the engine the ticks get faster. the noise is very tough to pinpoint with the blower screaming. not to mention it seems to in the area of the blower and timing chain cover so that makes it nearly impossible to isolate it.
it surely doesnt seem like the injectors. the car still runs strong and smooth. i am noticing that at idle the vibrations in the car (shifter, pedals etc etc) are a little more pronounced. i can even see the engine showing a little more movement in the engine bay. but like i said the car runs fine and strong still.
what are the symptoms of a bad timing chain?
the ticking is relative to the RPMs as i rev the engine the ticks get faster. the noise is very tough to pinpoint with the blower screaming. not to mention it seems to in the area of the blower and timing chain cover so that makes it nearly impossible to isolate it.
it surely doesnt seem like the injectors. the car still runs strong and smooth. i am noticing that at idle the vibrations in the car (shifter, pedals etc etc) are a little more pronounced. i can even see the engine showing a little more movement in the engine bay. but like i said the car runs fine and strong still.
what are the symptoms of a bad timing chain?
07-08-2005, 07:49 PM
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Try putting on ther stock belt so you can hear whats going on in there. I swear when I had my stock belt on I heard a little rattle sound coming from the timing chain area. I think once it warmed up it quited down. I was and am in denial so I basically ignored it and went on my way. As much time as I spend with this car you would think it gave hand jobs or something 
07-09-2005, 06:35 AM
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That is what I had going on until I blew my motor form detonation. Run a compression chek and see what you compression looks like. I thaough when they tore down my motor it was from the little peices of the piston heads bouncing around.
07-09-2005, 02:05 PM
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yeah i will have to do that....
funny thing is is that the clicking is very 'uniform'. its not like something is loose banging around. this really has be baffled. i am also giving a possibility to it being something drivetrain related. who knows.
funny thing is is that the clicking is very 'uniform'. its not like something is loose banging around. this really has be baffled. i am also giving a possibility to it being something drivetrain related. who knows.
07-09-2005, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Requin6
yeah i will have to do that....
funny thing is is that the clicking is very 'uniform'. its not like something is loose banging around. this really has be baffled. i am also giving a possibility to it being something drivetrain related. who knows.
funny thing is is that the clicking is very 'uniform'. its not like something is loose banging around. this really has be baffled. i am also giving a possibility to it being something drivetrain related. who knows.
07-13-2005, 01:06 PM
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call me stupid but have you done any exhaust work lately? possibly an exhaust leak. i had a pretty big one that sounded like a card in spokes drove me nuts. sometimes its hard to judge a sound with all the noise from everything else.
07-13-2005, 01:21 PM
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Paul now that I think about it that did sound like it could be an exhaust leak. seems like the only thing it could be to me that would sound like that and increase speed when the engine is revved.
man im an idiot for not seeing that post two above mine
07-14-2005, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Requin6
roughly 60k on the motor. i have been thinking about the pulleys myself. i guess that is the next approach.
Without all the V1 screem, you may be able to get a better location on it and taking that blower off doesnt take all that much time either...
Just an idea
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07-14-2005, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I think the pulley was like 60-70bucks. It has been a while though, so I dont remember.
yeah next step is yanking the blower and going from there i guess.
i just want to do one thing at a time so i dont create more problems associated with changing a whole bunch of things at once.
07-14-2005, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
Pop the blower off, and put on your stock belt...
Without all the V1 screem, you may be able to get a better location on it and taking that blower off doesnt take all that much time either...
Just an idea
-matt
Without all the V1 screem, you may be able to get a better location on it and taking that blower off doesnt take all that much time either...
Just an idea
-matt
07-14-2005, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Requin6
i have a couple extra tensioner units laying around. so it was your tensioner and not your timing chain?
yeah next step is yanking the blower and going from there i guess.
i just want to do one thing at a time so i dont create more problems associated with changing a whole bunch of things at once.
yeah next step is yanking the blower and going from there i guess.
i just want to do one thing at a time so i dont create more problems associated with changing a whole bunch of things at once.
It was one of the pullies and not the timing chain tensioner.
07-14-2005, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
It was one of the pullies and not the timing chain tensioner.
Im getting a little knock on the Chain side of the engine...it may be the blower making some noise
-matt
07-15-2005, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by matty
Pop the blower off, and put on your stock belt...
Without all the V1 screem, you may be able to get a better location on it and taking that blower off doesnt take all that much time either...
Just an idea
-matt
Without all the V1 screem, you may be able to get a better location on it and taking that blower off doesnt take all that much time either...
Just an idea
-matt
The car will run (for a while) with no belt - until the battery dies. (probably 45 minutes from a charged battery) - enough time to test this. I know because my belt snapped and I drove about 6 miles to get home - since our water pumps run off the chain and not the belt - there's no real danger.
You can just loosen the SC belt and pull it up and lay it on the side of the engine bay while you test.
07-15-2005, 10:32 AM
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i was looking at the belt tensioner. the bolt with the 14mm nut wasnt securely fitted into channel. the nut was flush with the end of the bolt threads. i got it back into place (3-4 threads visable) thought that might have been the problem. but no, its still there. i guess i will see how the stock belt sounds on there. grrr. one thing at a time. 
07-15-2005, 11:45 AM
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oook, i put the stock belt back on...now the car wont start. everything looks kosher. i didnt touch anything that would have an effect on the car starting did i? am i missing something here?
when i turn the key, it just sort of makes a click then doesnt do anything.
now i have been having a problem where on the first turn of the key it doesnt do anything....but after a re-clutch it usually starts up fine. now i am getting nothing. it started up fine an hour before. just changed the belt, now nothing.
this is awesome.
when i turn the key, it just sort of makes a click then doesnt do anything.
now i have been having a problem where on the first turn of the key it doesnt do anything....but after a re-clutch it usually starts up fine. now i am getting nothing. it started up fine an hour before. just changed the belt, now nothing.
this is awesome.
07-15-2005, 12:32 PM
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Chek the cam sensor plug that plugs in thru the SC mounting plate. Make sure it is pluged in, if it is make sure it is not pinched. That will not the car to start. But it will still turn over.
If you car is not turning over then your problem has nothing to do with what you have done in the last hour.
If you car is not turning over then your problem has nothing to do with what you have done in the last hour.
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