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12-25-2005, 08:58 PM
#401
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Well this is one interesting thread, I just finished reading it head to toe.
I have a 04 Altima VQ35 N/A and had Sharif install the EU / LC-1 combo last week (Made the drive from Orlando to Charlotte to get it done...). So far so good but I do have issues which hopefully some of you could figure out.
http://www.altimafaq.net/eu/eManageLite.doc (Simple writeup of my experience and dyno + A/F)
I'm very interested in getting the rev. limiter boosted to 7200rpm, that would be utterly great.
Right now my biggest problem is whenever I'm in gear (Usually above 2,000) and let off on the gas, the engine goes hard lean (Like 30-35 on the LC-1). This causes some popping / detonation if it's in gear but other than that everything seems to be okay. Any ideas? I'm still learning a lot about the dynamics of tuning the VQ motors so assume I know nothing and approach me like I'm an idiot.. =)
I'm going to upload some of my LC-1 A/F logs and see what you all think along with my EU config file.
I really want to get into the cooler features the EU uses as the Altima community doesn't have any tuning solutions either.
I have a 04 Altima VQ35 N/A and had Sharif install the EU / LC-1 combo last week (Made the drive from Orlando to Charlotte to get it done...). So far so good but I do have issues which hopefully some of you could figure out.
http://www.altimafaq.net/eu/eManageLite.doc (Simple writeup of my experience and dyno + A/F)
I'm very interested in getting the rev. limiter boosted to 7200rpm, that would be utterly great.
Right now my biggest problem is whenever I'm in gear (Usually above 2,000) and let off on the gas, the engine goes hard lean (Like 30-35 on the LC-1). This causes some popping / detonation if it's in gear but other than that everything seems to be okay. Any ideas? I'm still learning a lot about the dynamics of tuning the VQ motors so assume I know nothing and approach me like I'm an idiot.. =)
I'm going to upload some of my LC-1 A/F logs and see what you all think along with my EU config file.
I really want to get into the cooler features the EU uses as the Altima community doesn't have any tuning solutions either.
12-26-2005, 06:35 AM
#402
Originally Posted by Velicos
Right now my biggest problem is whenever I'm in gear (Usually above 2,000) and let off on the gas, the engine goes hard lean (Like 30-35 on the LC-1). This causes some popping / detonation if it's in gear but other than that everything seems to be okay. Any ideas? I'm still learning a lot about the dynamics of tuning the VQ motors so assume I know nothing and approach me like I'm an idiot.. =)
12-26-2005, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
If the altima ECU is anything like other nissans, it goes into a fuel cut mode while decelerating, aka no fuel at all going into the cylinders. This is why your reading is off-the-charts lean. It's normal. And i doubt what you're hearing is detonation.
01-06-2006, 02:39 PM
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I put this on Icey's rev limit thread but I'll update here as well to keep the documentation going:
Originally Posted by DandyMax
Now for the good news: apparently Japan has finished both the software/firmware update and the add-on hardware module for the VQ30DE/DET. It has either already arrived at Greddy's offices in CA or it is in transit. Kenji mentioned there had been some packages arrive from Japan recently but he was away and needs to check on where exactly the module is currently. I should know more in a couple days but it's looking like I will have this in my hands soon.
Additionally, their NJ location is now operational and, if for some unforeseen reason it should become necessary (I don't think so but you never know), this is within driving distance for me to personally go down there and meet with Kenji, do testing, etc.
Additionally, their NJ location is now operational and, if for some unforeseen reason it should become necessary (I don't think so but you never know), this is within driving distance for me to personally go down there and meet with Kenji, do testing, etc.
01-06-2006, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
I put this on Icey's rev limit thread but I'll update here as well to keep the documentation going:
Originally Posted by DandyMax
Now for the good news: apparently Japan has finished both the software/firmware update and the add-on hardware module for the VQ30DE/DET. It has either already arrived at Greddy's offices in CA or it is in transit. Kenji mentioned there had been some packages arrive from Japan recently but he was away and needs to check on where exactly the module is currently. I should know more in a couple days but it's looking like I will have this in my hands soon.
Additionally, their NJ location is now operational and, if for some unforeseen reason it should become necessary (I don't think so but you never know), this is within driving distance for me to personally go down there and meet with Kenji, do testing, etc.
Originally Posted by DandyMax
Now for the good news: apparently Japan has finished both the software/firmware update and the add-on hardware module for the VQ30DE/DET. It has either already arrived at Greddy's offices in CA or it is in transit. Kenji mentioned there had been some packages arrive from Japan recently but he was away and needs to check on where exactly the module is currently. I should know more in a couple days but it's looking like I will have this in my hands soon.
Additionally, their NJ location is now operational and, if for some unforeseen reason it should become necessary (I don't think so but you never know), this is within driving distance for me to personally go down there and meet with Kenji, do testing, etc.
1) How much is this extra modual going to cost ?? Is it something that any Greddy distributer will be able to get or do we have to order it straight from Kenji ??
2) Are they sending enough to accomidate the demand of the amount of people wanting this for there VQ30DE..Or are they only sending like one for Kenji to test then he'll need to order it...Im trying to guestimate if its worth purchasing now or waiting to see if the new modual works.
3) And the most important question is Where is Kenji's office in NJ ?? Im located In Northern NJ, Morris County, and I can easily order the EU, install it and go run down to him for any problem solving issues and report here. Let me know via PM
-matt
01-06-2006, 11:23 PM
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Matty:
1) Don't know yet.
2) Don't know yet but I doubt it'll be many to start, only a few likely.
3) I'll have to ask again. I forgot the name, but I think it's about 1/2 hr to 1 hr south of Newark. Keep in mind Kenji will not always be there though, he's mainly based out in California.
Sorry I can't be more helpful yet, I know this has been a slow process but hang in there. I should know more about the status of the module(s) in a few days.
1) Don't know yet.
2) Don't know yet but I doubt it'll be many to start, only a few likely.
3) I'll have to ask again. I forgot the name, but I think it's about 1/2 hr to 1 hr south of Newark. Keep in mind Kenji will not always be there though, he's mainly based out in California.
Sorry I can't be more helpful yet, I know this has been a slow process but hang in there. I should know more about the status of the module(s) in a few days.
01-06-2006, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mforrest100
Can u summarize this 14 page thread and start a new thread with the summary. Kind of hard to keep up.
01-08-2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
just like every other copy cat im just waiting for u to say buy this this and that n the timing, a/f and rev limit works and how to do it all
Me too...and Dandymax to say "ORDER IT" 
01-13-2006, 08:17 AM
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Unfortunately, no. Kenji is in Japan now for a week. I tried to catch him before he left but didn't realize he was going this soon. I'll check in with him when he gets back. By then he should have it/know where it is.
01-20-2006, 12:12 PM
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Finally! With the help of Dandy and a few other members, I have the EU working flawlessly on my VQ35.
Running the I/J Adjustment Map with the AFR Target Map > 80% and the +3 deg. timing advance across the board for N/A.
Thanks a bunch for the assistance and good luck to those with the VQ30 saga.
Running the I/J Adjustment Map with the AFR Target Map > 80% and the +3 deg. timing advance across the board for N/A.
Thanks a bunch for the assistance and good luck to those with the VQ30 saga.
01-20-2006, 12:52 PM
#416
Originally Posted by Velicos
Finally! With the help of Dandy and a few other members, I have the EU working flawlessly on my VQ35.
Running the I/J Adjustment Map with the AFR Target Map > 80% and the +3 deg. timing advance across the board for N/A.
Thanks a bunch for the assistance and good luck to those with the VQ30 saga.
Running the I/J Adjustment Map with the AFR Target Map > 80% and the +3 deg. timing advance across the board for N/A.
Thanks a bunch for the assistance and good luck to those with the VQ30 saga.
01-24-2006, 04:47 PM
#419
Quick question for once you all that are working on this to work for us. Is any of you going to run the EU so you can remove the MAF. Or do you still need it for when you not under boost.
01-24-2006, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MyownNismo
Quick question for once you all that are working on this to work for us. Is any of you going to run the EU so you can remove the MAF. Or do you still need it for when you not under boost.
But the EU should be able to completely replace the MAF for all engine load points. It's just a matter of doing some datalogging and mapping. The EU will then run off a MAP signal while feeding the appropriate corresponding MAF signal to the ECU to keep it happy (even the though the MAF has been physically removed).
01-24-2006, 07:34 PM
#421
Wouldn't it be safer with a hot wire like the maf in colder situations? I know that Nigel is running his EMS with a map and it should get fairly cold there, but the AFR's change in direct relation to temperature. The IAT is not "that" precise of a measuring tool to guage how cold (dense) the air is it?
What else would you be planning on using? Is there a way to have to IAT control which system you'll be running?
What else would you be planning on using? Is there a way to have to IAT control which system you'll be running?
01-24-2006, 08:54 PM
#423
Originally Posted by SEGirl
hey guys any idea when a supercharge or turbo charge will come out for maximas2004+++
01-25-2006, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by slimer
Wouldn't it be safer with a hot wire like the maf in colder situations? I know that Nigel is running his EMS with a map and it should get fairly cold there, but the AFR's change in direct relation to temperature. The IAT is not "that" precise of a measuring tool to guage how cold (dense) the air is it?
What else would you be planning on using? Is there a way to have to IAT control which system you'll be running?
What else would you be planning on using? Is there a way to have to IAT control which system you'll be running?
Well I'm not sure how accurate the stock IAT sensor is, however I don't see this as a major problem. I think the IAT sensor is probably fine as long as it's located in a spot that's indicative of the temperature just before it enters the engine (well as much as possible). Also, if necessary a Greddy temp sensor (or maybe even other brands) could be used. But the main reason I don't think it's a big problem is that the absolute value of the air temp isn't so critical; the tuning is all done on a relative basis. Ie- using a WB you can dial in the correct A/F map for a given temp, even if the sensor has a small offset from the actual temp.
And as for the effect of air temp on A/F ratios, you are right, the downside of using the MAP is that it needs to be corrected for different temperatures, which means more tuning effort. But this is possible as the EU includes a fuel adjustment map based on air temp. To be safe, you'd want to set up the initial map during cold weather, that way without any adjustment you'd be richer than necessary come warm weather. Then adjust fuel as necessary via the adjustment map for various temperatures other than the initial tuning point.
01-25-2006, 09:34 AM
#425
The EU can replace the MAF using a MAP sensor and the IAT map although not as well as a standalone could with a true 16x16 or so IAT map.
However, there is NO need to replace the MAF especially since 4th geners have the Z32 MAF or even bigger options.
Running the MAF will help driveability.
However, there is NO need to replace the MAF especially since 4th geners have the Z32 MAF or even bigger options.
Running the MAF will help driveability.
01-29-2006, 07:10 PM
#433
ok so i just read all 15 pages.....i am looking into piggy backs such as SMT and GReddy EU....did GReddy fix the problem with timing and rev limit...everythign blurred into one at page 14....new firmware or hardware updates
01-30-2006, 09:35 AM
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Still waiting on the add-on module for the pickup of the crank signal which will give more precise control... I will start a new thread once I have a good update to give as this thread is getting long.
However the rev limit appears to work. Timing retard seems to work, timing advance may also work but this has not been proven yet.
However the rev limit appears to work. Timing retard seems to work, timing advance may also work but this has not been proven yet.
02-01-2006, 09:17 PM
#435
Originally Posted by DandyMax
Still waiting on the add-on module for the pickup of the crank signal which will give more precise control... I will start a new thread once I have a good update to give as this thread is getting long.
However the rev limit appears to work. Timing retard seems to work, timing advance may also work but this has not been proven yet.
However the rev limit appears to work. Timing retard seems to work, timing advance may also work but this has not been proven yet.
02-02-2006, 07:43 AM
#437
Go back to your NA forum...nothing here.
J/K...http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=448742
J/K...http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=448742
Originally Posted by krismax
iam sorry if i missed itbut who got the rev limit to work?!
02-09-2006, 10:14 AM
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I will do everything I can to see that it is.
You know this is a good thing though.. the more people contacting Greddy asking about it the better.
In fact, everybody call in right now and ask!!!
You know this is a good thing though.. the more people contacting Greddy asking about it the better.
In fact, everybody call in right now and ask!!!