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08-26-2005, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Greddy better back this up. Getting tired of struggling to find a tuning solution just because we basically have family sedans. It just shouldn't be this hard.
08-26-2005, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by slimer
dandy, there is a wideband output. it is one of the wires on the harness that i have not hooked up with.
alex-do you have a pinout for me yet?
alex-do you have a pinout for me yet?
Also, I will post a pinout up tonight along with the cam/crank signals. I started one last week but just need to finish it up.
08-26-2005, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
Ok.. I'll have to look at the zt-2 again.. it's been a few weeks since I've used it.
Also, I will post a pinout up tonight along with the cam/crank signals. I started one last week but just need to finish it up.
Also, I will post a pinout up tonight along with the cam/crank signals. I started one last week but just need to finish it up.
08-26-2005, 02:54 PM
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Subject: Re: VQ30 Crank POS waveform for Emanage Ultimate
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:51:32 -0700
We would have to get the oscilloscope waveforms and convert it into data the E-manage could understand. Then from that point would could input this data into our support tool program. This would be a long process as we would have to have that information sent to Trust Japan and they would have to
change their E-manage program and rewrite the support tool. Thanks for the email.
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:51:32 -0700
We would have to get the oscilloscope waveforms and convert it into data the E-manage could understand. Then from that point would could input this data into our support tool program. This would be a long process as we would have to have that information sent to Trust Japan and they would have to
change their E-manage program and rewrite the support tool. Thanks for the email.
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> What would make it possible for this crank type to be
> added in your future firmware update? Capture actual
> oscilloscope waveforms? Test vehicle?
>
> For comparison purposes, I've attached the VQ30, FWD
> VQ35, and RWD VQ35 crank angle sensor waveforms.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> What would make it possible for this crank type to be
> added in your future firmware update? Capture actual
> oscilloscope waveforms? Test vehicle?
>
> For comparison purposes, I've attached the VQ30, FWD
> VQ35, and RWD VQ35 crank angle sensor waveforms.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
08-26-2005, 10:19 PM
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Attn: Kevlo, Joe, Slimer - pinouts and signals here
Who are you talking to at Greddy Alex? I can send them the waveforms, I already have them... Sharif was talking to Kenji last but I'll probably call him on Monday myself to get this ball rolling.
Speaking of waveforms... here's the cam signal:
Crank signal - it actually looked more square on a different scope tonight than last night. Interesting:
And here's a pinout for the 4th gen. Handwritten quickly, nothing too fancy but it's clear enough to read.
Speaking of waveforms... here's the cam signal:
Crank signal - it actually looked more square on a different scope tonight than last night. Interesting:
And here's a pinout for the 4th gen. Handwritten quickly, nothing too fancy but it's clear enough to read.
Last edited by DandyMax; 07-05-2008 at 12:12 PM.
08-26-2005, 10:37 PM
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info@greddy.com....I'm assuming the person replying is just somebody in the US office that doesn't know much.
Kenji is the man you need to be talking too...Sharif is your best connection to making this happen.
The VQ30 crank signal looks a hell of a lot simpler then the VQ35 signals, so it's just a matter of getting someone to give us the time of day...not holding my breath.
Kenji is the man you need to be talking too...Sharif is your best connection to making this happen.
The VQ30 crank signal looks a hell of a lot simpler then the VQ35 signals, so it's just a matter of getting someone to give us the time of day...not holding my breath.
08-27-2005, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Since whoever it is seems to be replying, do you mind if I send them your waveforms while you work on Kenji?
So far I have been talking to Sharif, who has been talking to Kenji on my behalf. But I will probably contact him myself come next week. As you said he seems to be the key guy at Greddy USA.
08-27-2005, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
Who are you talking to at Greddy Alex? I can send them the waveforms, I already have them... Sharif was talking to Kenji last but I'll probably call him on Monday myself to get this ball rolling.
Speaking of waveforms...
Here's the cam signal.
Here and here for the crank signal. It actually looked more square on a different scope tonight than last night. Interesting.
And here's a pinout for the 4th gen. Handwritten quickly, nothing too fancy but it's clear enough to read.
Speaking of waveforms...
Here's the cam signal.
Here and here for the crank signal. It actually looked more square on a different scope tonight than last night. Interesting.
And here's a pinout for the 4th gen. Handwritten quickly, nothing too fancy but it's clear enough to read.
wrong crank pic, I need the pulley one (REF) please.But why are you using the flywheel crank sensor? I thought you guys were supposed to use the crank pulley sensor instead? IIRC the flywheel signal is only to tell the ECU what rpms the engine is at. The crank pulley (REF) tells the engine where top dead center is and this is the one I advance with the SMT to get more or less timing.
But thanks for the cam sensor pic, but could you also include a pic of the crank (REF) and cam together in phase on a two channel scope? As well as a pic of the crank signal by itself.
08-27-2005, 09:53 AM
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Joe I can get you what you're asking for yes, shouldn't be a problem.
But the reason I used the POS (flywheel sensor) is because after talking with Sharif that's what I was told to do. I asked him if I should be using the REF and he said the VQ35 was unique but for older cars the POS was used to pick up rpms and the CAM was used to pick up timing.
The thought did cross my mind that perhaps it was the wrong crank sensor but then I got so focused on checking the signals I forgot to try the REF... I will switch them up and see what happens.
But the reason I used the POS (flywheel sensor) is because after talking with Sharif that's what I was told to do. I asked him if I should be using the REF and he said the VQ35 was unique but for older cars the POS was used to pick up rpms and the CAM was used to pick up timing.
The thought did cross my mind that perhaps it was the wrong crank sensor but then I got so focused on checking the signals I forgot to try the REF... I will switch them up and see what happens.
08-27-2005, 10:39 AM
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Look at N-10
G = Cam Angle Signal
Ne = Crank Angle Signal
They have it wired differently. Only on 99's it is like this
Pin 44(G) is the Cam Phase
Pin 46(Ne) is the Crank REF
On 95-98
Pin 44 is the Crank REF
Pin 46 is the Cam Phase
Just make sure you wire it right, Greddy wants you to tap the Crank REF.
08-28-2005, 12:03 PM
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Joe here's your waveforms
Didn't get a chance to get more signals scoped last night - did it this afternoon instead.
Here we go:
Here we go:
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08-28-2005, 12:10 PM
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Ah ha, I guess I can understand where those spikes are comming from. See how in just about every series there is one extra high voltage peak? I think that is why the SMT fcks up reading it.
08-28-2005, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
BTW, thanks for getting the signals 
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Now Greddy has no excuse for not being able to fix it. They will have the signals and just have to add it to the firmware.
08-28-2005, 12:54 PM
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Not yet. In lieu of using the crank I will try the rev limiter using the ignition signals to pick up rpms. I also need to get my wideband hooked up too. I've been concentrating on trying to get the crank/cam signals to work so that I could see/advance timing.
08-28-2005, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Dandy what's your email address? I'm going to CC you the messages to Greddy from now on.
08-28-2005, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Alex, you still want the harness?
Thanks to you Dandy, we might get teh SMT7/6 working perfectly.
Thanks to you Dandy, we might get teh SMT7/6 working perfectly.
08-28-2005, 01:09 PM
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No, it cant 
Alex:0201(P1320)
Diagnostic Trouble Code 0201 indicates a problem with the ignition coil and power transistor. The ignition signal from the Engine Control Module is sent to and amplified by the power transistor. The power transistor turns on and off the ignition coil primary circuit. This on-off operation induces the proper high voltage in the coil secondary circuit.
The malfunction is detected when the ignition signal in the primary circuit is not entered during engine cranking or running.
The items to check include
- Harness or connectors (the ignition primary circuit is open or shorted.)
- Power transistor unit built into ignition coil
- Condenser
- Crankshaft Position Sensor (REF)
- Crankshaft Position Sensor (REF) circuit
I dont understand how you can get the code if you only TAP the sensor. Your sure it its wired properly?
Alex:0201(P1320)
Diagnostic Trouble Code 0201 indicates a problem with the ignition coil and power transistor. The ignition signal from the Engine Control Module is sent to and amplified by the power transistor. The power transistor turns on and off the ignition coil primary circuit. This on-off operation induces the proper high voltage in the coil secondary circuit.
The malfunction is detected when the ignition signal in the primary circuit is not entered during engine cranking or running.
The items to check include
- Harness or connectors (the ignition primary circuit is open or shorted.)
- Power transistor unit built into ignition coil
- Condenser
- Crankshaft Position Sensor (REF)
- Crankshaft Position Sensor (REF) circuit
I dont understand how you can get the code if you only TAP the sensor. Your sure it its wired properly?