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Old 08-28-2005, 01:10 PM
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When I say running, it idles and revs....not advancing or rev-limit.
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So yours does read the RPMs from the POS?
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I got mine running last night off the ignition and tach signals, however I'm getting a pending and CEL code P1320. I'm hoping the POS vs. REF is why?
You have an EU now too? I thought you were waiting to sell your ECU.
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Kevlo - No, only off the tach or ignition.

Dandy - SSShhh...yeah...couldn't wait.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
So yours does read the RPMs from the POS?
I think he's reading rpms from either tach or ignition signals. Mine will read rpms using the ignition, but doing it that way you can't advance or see actual timing.
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Old 08-28-2005, 01:18 PM
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Pretty sure, I've checked it many times, I know it's connected to but I'll check into it more.

Why do you think it would be a pending code and idle fine, if it's open/shorted?


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Alex:0201(P1320)
Diagnostic Trouble Code 0201 indicates a problem with the ignition coil and power transistor. The ignition signal from the Engine Control Module is sent to and amplified by the power transistor. The power transistor turns on and off the ignition coil primary circuit. This on-off operation induces the proper high voltage in the coil secondary circuit.

The malfunction is detected when the ignition signal in the primary circuit is not entered during engine cranking or running.

The items to check include
- Harness or connectors (the ignition primary circuit is open or shorted.)
- Power transistor unit built into ignition coil
- Condenser
- Crankshaft Position Sensor (REF)
- Crankshaft Position Sensor (REF) circuit

I dont understand how you can get the code if you only TAP the sensor. Your sure it its wired properly?
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Kevlo - No, it only off the tach or ignition.

Dandy - SSShhh...yeah...couldn't wait.
lol. It is pretty tempting isn't it.
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The longest part was making a piggy back extension harness, but boy did it turn out sweet. That was until now that I have to rewire it...doh!
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It might be messing with the signal so the ECU throws a fault. I dont think it is really misfireing so that is why it idles fine. I know mine would idle fine when I had the CRANK REF and CAM codes. It is just teh signal got a lil wierd and ECU threw a fault code out.

Dandy, do you get any codes when you tap the sensors?
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
The longest part was making a piggy back extension harness, but boy did it turn out sweet. That was until now that I have to rewire it...doh!
I cut the Greddy bullet connectors off and put everything on a couple of DB sockets. Much easier to take in and out that way, plus it's a snap to extend then if I want to once I figure out where I'm going to keep the unit in the car.

Where are you putting yours?
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
It might be messing with the signal so the ECU throws a fault. I dont think it is really misfireing so that is why it idles fine. I know mine would idle fine when I had the CRANK REF and CAM codes. It is just teh signal got a lil wierd and ECU threw a fault code out.

Dandy, do you get any codes when you tap the sensors?
No, mine starts, idles and revs fine now without CEL's. The only time I ever got any was if I started the car with incorrect settings stored on the EU. (For example for a vehicle that was significantly different, like one of the SR series).
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Kevlo - That's exactly what I'm thinking...it's not the REF, since I'm only tapping the POS. I believe, which is VERY very bad news, that it is because I'm using the tach or ignition input for the UE to drive the coils, ie it's not as precise as the crank signal causing a "misfire".

Dandy - I'm thinking in the center console or under the passenger seat. Depends on when/if I figure out a way to rig up a "switch" to switch between the sets of maps.
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I would mount it right above the ECU so you can keep the wires shorter.
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I had that happen and I know why, it's because the default settings, ie number of injectors, firing order, etc. are different.

I even had a no MAF code when I tried the 2JZ. Haha.




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No, mine starts, idles and revs fine now without CEL's. The only time I ever got any was if I started the car with incorrect settings stored on the EU. (For example for a vehicle that was significantly different, like one of the SR series).
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Maybe try disconnecting the tach and only using the ignition? I don't have the tach wired up; I figured the ignition pulses would work better as a backup until the crank issue is resolved.
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Good idea...I disconnected the cam/crank and no difference.

I'll go do that.
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I had that happen and I know why, it's because the default settings, ie number of injectors, firing order, etc. are different.

I even had a no MAF code when I tried the 2JZ. Haha.
lol. Ya, it wasn't unexpected. I just kept playing with the settings and when I was done, reset my CEL.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I would mount it right above the ECU so you can keep the wires shorter.
Ya I was thinking about that too but it's VERY tight under there with the harnesses etc.
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Old 08-28-2005, 01:59 PM
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Disconnected the RPM input...still got the P1320 code.

Funny thing is it still runs even when the Vehicle->RPM Signal Type is on RPM...forgot to change it.
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Hmm. Interesting. Maybe it's something with the 4th gen ECU vs the 5th gen?

Yes, in addition to the software setting, I noticed the ignition method still works even if JP15 is set to 1-2, ie-normal (tach rpm).
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Dandy,

Once it cools off, I'm going to start trying all the other crank types to see if maybe one of them works.

Have you tried this? http://www.planet-supra.de/software/EMUEditor/

I did for the NS_1 and NS_3 with the VQ30DET and didn't work. However, I'm wondering if it possible another applications crank REF type could work?
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I played around with that program a little bit but haven't tried any crank types outside of the Nissan family. I don't know many of the other manufacturers' engines well enough to know what their crank angle signals look like. I've heard Nissan is pretty unique in that regard but hey if you happen to stumble on one that works...
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It needs to be a V6 for other crank signals to work.
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Which of these would you suggest?

HN_1: F23A, H22A, F22B , F20B , B20B, B18C, B16B, D15B, E07A
HN_2: K24A, K20A, F20C
HN_3: C35A, J35A, C32B, C30A, J30A
MT_1: 6G72, 6A12, 6A13, 4G63(1-4), 4G63(5-), 4G63, 4G93
MZ_1: B6-ZE(NA), BP-ZE(NB), BP-ZE(NA)
MZ_2: BP-VE
MZ_3: 13B, 13B-REW, 20B-REW
MZ_4: 13B-MSP
MZ_5: B6-ZE(NB)
NS_1: RB26DETT, RB25DET(NEO), RB25DET, RB20DET, VG30DETT, SR20DET, SR20DE, SR20VE, CA18DET, SR16VE
NS_3: CR14DE, CR12DE, CR10DE
NS_4: VQ35DE, VQ30DET, VQ25DE, VQ20DE
SB_1: EJ20(BD5/BG5), EJ20(GC8_1-2), EJ20(GC8_3-4), EJ20(GC8_5-6), EJ207(A-E), EJ207(E-D), EN07X
SD_1: JB-DET, JB-JL, EF-DET, K6A
TY_1: 2JZ-GTE, 2JZ-GE, 1JZ-GTE, 1JZ-GE, 1G-GE, 3S-GTE, 3S-GE, 4A-GE(111), 4A-GE(101), 4A-GE(92), 4A-GZE, 4E-FTE, 4E-FE
TY_2: 1MZ-FE, 2JZ-GTE(VVTi), 1JZ-GTE(110), 1JZ-GTE(100), 1G-FE(VVTi), 3S-GE(VVTi), 2ZZ-GE, 1ZZ-FE, 2NZ-FE, 1NZ-FE, 1SZ-FE
TY_3: 3S-GTE(215)
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Isn't your JP15 on 1-2? Or do you have it open?

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Hmm. Interesting. Maybe it's something with the 4th gen ECU vs the 5th gen?

Yes, in addition to the software setting, I noticed the ignition method still works even if JP15 is set to 1-2, ie-normal (tach rpm).
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It is on 1-2, but I've tried it open as well and either way the ignition input still works if it's selected in the software.
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Ty_1
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Now on to Honda...
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Cool...I'm just trying to figure out if there is something simple causing my CEL or if it really is my wiring and or length of wiring causing interference.

The code is definitely intermittent, which has me thinking interference or UE not playing nice.

You have:
JP7 = 1-2
JP8 = 1-2
JP15 = 1-2

....correct??
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HN_3

Model: Mazda Xedos 6 2.0 (KF)
Which ever one the MX6 24v falls under
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Also try SB_1
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Cool...I'm just trying to figure out if there is something simple causing my CEL or if it really is my wiring and or length of wiring causing interference.

The code is definitely intermittent, which has me thinking interference or UE not playing nice.

You have:
JP7 = 1-2
JP8 = 1-2
JP15 = 1-2

....correct??
Yup.
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You think using v2.00 of the support tool with v1.06b firmware could be a problem?
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this is the main reason why i haven't gotten mine yet. there is too many things involving the sensors that I do not yet comprehend. once i get my ignition working, its on order.
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
You think using v2.00 of the support tool with v1.06b firmware could be a problem?
Hmm. I don't know... but I kind of doubt it. I have tried using version 1.01 (software and firmware both together) and I couldn't really tell any difference for the limited use I've had of it so far...

Did you get a chance to try any of the Honda or Toyota engines?
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Originally Posted by slimer
this is the main reason why i haven't gotten mine yet. there is too many things involving the sensors that I do not yet comprehend. once i get my ignition working, its on order.
Anything I can help with?
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i try to keep my idioticness private. the main thing is how to use the software. i see how to set-up the engine, but when you get to the maps, thats where i get lost.
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Oh ok - lol (not at you just at your comment about keeping it private). Well maybe during the week we can talk if you wish. I downloaded that Trillian program that's supposed to do AIM and Yahoo, MSN etc just have to install it. Or you can PM me or email if you wish... dvrditar @ hotmail . com (w/o the spaces).
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
You think using v2.00 of the support tool with v1.06b firmware could be a problem?
I just saw your post on Yahoo... they're replying saying version 2 is actually an older version and that 1.06 should be the most current (ie- use 1.06/1.06 soft/firm). Very odd. I'll have to go download it.
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So when does Greddy plan to update the next firmware? Someone ask them what car the N-10 ECU pinout is for. - All I know is that it is a VQ pin out(4th gen style) But I want to know which VQXX
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No, I ran out of steam and car started running pretty bad.

I removed my piggyback harness, ie went back to stock and no misfire code yet.

I was kind of hoping a fried ignition coil was the cause, but I'm pretty sure this is the UE not being able to accurately fire the coils from just the ignition pulses or tach input.

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Did you get a chance to try any of the Honda or Toyota engines?
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