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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Ouch , I hate to see that block like that , which cylinder was that piston , #3 ?
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Ouch , I hate to see that block like that , which cylinder was that piston , #3 ?
Cylinder 5
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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nah there are no cracks on the rod, just pretty bent, it must have been damaged from before i put it in, because I didnt rev it out nor put stress on it, i mean i floored it a few times, but my tune was perfect, timing was perfect, no knocking, nothing..
I saw one '06 350Z engine for sale on ebay - it had a bent rod when taken apart, and the motor later turned out to be a factory core return that had been in a flood - one cylinder might have been full of water when the engine was turned over. I know this because I bought the heads from the seller after no one wanted to buy the entire motor with a bent rod. One of the heads had a "Flood Damage" label on it. Got 'em cheap, too.... Another project for next winter...
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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I saw one '06 350Z engine for sale on ebay - it had a bent rod when taken apart, and the motor later turned out to be a factory core return that had been in a flood - one cylinder might have been full of water when the engine was turned over. I know this because I bought the heads from the seller after no one wanted to buy the entire motor with a bent rod. One of the heads had a "Flood Damage" label on it. Got 'em cheap, too.... Another project for next winter...
Someone else mentioned the same thing to me, that perhaps this engine had hydro locked or water damaged.
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Man that stinks, I hope you get it all figured out man. It just seems like bad luck these last few months for you motor wise. You need a bulletproof motor so good luck with whatever build you decide to do, we all will be in for results.
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That sucks
What was your boost setting? & what do your plugs look like?
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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That sucks
What was your boost setting? & what do your plugs look like?
boost was at 9psi, I haven't pulled the plugs yet. the boost didnt cause this though, thats for sure.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Ouch.....sorry to hear/see that happening.
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aint no thang, things happen for a reason.. it does suck though

BUT,..

Parts gathering has begun!





compare the joke of stock 3.5 rods, to the eagles.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Wow, ur working quick. good job bro
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
aint no thang, things happen for a reason.. it does suck though


compare the joke of stock 3.5 rods, to the eagles.
Yeah - if you throw one of them bad boys, you'll cut the engine in half !!!

Carrillos for me - same reason - puny stock rods - I can't believe my stock rods are still holding up under a 175-shot...
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Yeah - if you throw one of them bad boys, you'll cut the engine in half !!!

Carrillos for me - same reason - puny stock rods - I can't believe my stock rods are still holding up under a 175-shot...

what pistons did you go with?
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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what pistons did you go with?
CP 11:1 96mm forged - crown coatings and skirt coatings - HD wrist pins- moly rings. Balanced. Cosworth (ACL) bearings.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
CP 11:1 96mm forged - crown coatings and skirt coatings - HD wrist pins- moly rings. Balanced. Cosworth (ACL) bearings.
how much that setup ^^ go for?
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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how much that setup ^^ go for?
sorry to hear that streets. I think im going to go with eagle rods too, ARP,head studs & rod bolts and cosworth Head gaskets. Think thatll be ok for 400-500hp or i might need some lower compression pistons? if so what would be ok? 11:1 Wiseco pistons or i need to go lower to a 8:8 Wiseco or 8:5 JE pistons?

Dont mean to thread jack in anyway streetz
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Originally Posted by ghostmax301
sorry to hear that streets. I think im going to go with eagle rods too, ARP,head studs & rod bolts and cosworth Head gaskets. Think thatll be ok for 400-500hp or i might need some lower compression pistons? if so what would be ok? 11:1 Wiseco pistons or i need to go lower to a 8:8 Wiseco or 8:5 JE pistons?

Dont mean to thread jack in anyway streetz
its ok, those are good question, im no expert yet, and new to this building stuff, but for that power range and 11:1, your going to be more likely to detonate than with lower compression. Thats my understanding at least, someone correct me if im wrong.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
boost was at 9psi, I haven't pulled the plugs yet. the boost didnt cause this though, thats for sure.
but a boost spike could
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
its ok, those are good question, im no expert yet, and new to this building stuff, but for that power range and 11:1, your going to be more likely to detonate than with lower compression. Thats my understanding at least, someone correct me if im wrong.
ea, im new to it too. havent gone further then cams when it comes to internals. But thats my same understanding, lower compression= less chance of detonation. I was just didnt know if 8:? was too low/unnecessary. I want to get this other 3.5 in and with stronger internals and boost by mid april.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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I might just be stupid but how the hell do those Eagle rods go on to the crank? looks like the part that rides the crank is sealed?

Also, just got the O.K. from pops, so im dropping the insurance on the maxima and shes going into hibernation for the engine build
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ghostmax301
I might just be stupid but how the hell do those Eagle rods go on to the crank? looks like the part that rides the crank is sealed?

Also, just got the O.K. from pops, so im dropping the insurance on the maxima and shes going into hibernation for the engine build
its 2 parts just like oem and they even come with arp rod bolts ftw lol.
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its 2 parts just like oem and they even come with arp rod bolts ftw lol.
start your own thread!

















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i did but forgot man lol
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
how much that setup ^^ go for?
From BoomBop - $1,200.... but that's all six pistons and the coatings,pins/rings/options together.... the bearings were - extra - from Cosworth... You don't want to know about the Carr fastener Carrillo H-beam rods. But this should make a nice short block for summer.

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From BoomBop - $1,200.... but that's all six pistons and the coatings,pins/rings/options together.... the bearings were - extra - from Cosworth... You don't want to know about the Carr fastener Carrillo H-beam rods. But this should make a nice short block for summer.
Crap, your going for 1,000hp then lol.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Crap, your going for 1,000hp then lol.
Na, I'd blow the engine for sure... Rods, pistons, bearings are rated for 1,500HP actually, which just means the short block will be tough enough for a huge spray job.

Add the Cosworth CNC ported heads with big valves and their ZK2 cams, and this puppy is gonna breathe !!! N/A HP should go up 20% or so, then three nitrous stages under computer control - that also shifts the VLSD - with VP Racing 109 race fuel, and, well, if it blows up, you could see the fireball in Florida.

I've just been out this week with the present 2002 3.5 with the updated fuel system set for 405 WHP and it's a beast again - if the rains let up, I'm going to KCIR this Saturday and let 'er eat!

I think the new engine will dyno at 500 WHP after break-in - then we shall see. Oops - I got excited again - you're the one that needs to get a RMT turboed 3.5 back on the roads.

Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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Na, I'd blow the engine for sure... Rods, pistons, bearings are rated for 1,500HP actually, which just means the short block will be tough enough for a huge spray job.

Add the Cosworth CNC ported heads with big valves and their ZK2 cams, and this puppy is gonna breathe !!! N/A HP should go up 20% or so, then three nitrous stages under computer control - that also shifts the VLSD - with VP Racing 109 race fuel, and, well, if it blows up, you could see the fireball in Florida.

I've just been out this week with the present 2002 3.5 with the updated fuel system set for 405 WHP and it's a beast again - if the rains let up, I'm going to KCIR this Saturday and let 'er eat!

I think the new engine will dyno at 500 WHP after break-in - then we shall see. Oops - I got excited again - you're the one that needs to get a RMT turboed 3.5 back on the roads.

oh trust me buddy. you'll know when its back on the street, all that ^^^ is not going to scare me!!! im still coming after you and jim! lol FI 3.5+auto fo life!!!
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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oh trust me buddy. you'll know when its back on the street, all that ^^^ is not going to scare me!!! im still coming after you and jim! lol FI 3.5+auto fo life!!!
Excellent ! looking forward to it.....
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Hmm i guess i will be comming for both of yall also.
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AND IM COMING FOR ALL OF Jo0o!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just ordered the Eagle connecting rods with ARP 2000 rod bolts, ARP L19 Head bolts, ARP main bolts, Cosworth headgaskets and gasket matching my exhaust and intake ports. Decided to stay with the stock compression pistons because they should hold up to my goals 400-550hp via my gathered info from my350z.com.

FYI, ALOT of good info on there about what 3.5s can hold and peoples expriences such as cosmic gaskets being ka-ka, and RC injectors staying open and Wiseco pistons being iffy.
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I see alot of goodies there Streetz, goodluck with the build.
Why cant we all just get along & go after the domestics?.lol
Btw my cometic head gaskets hold up just fine.
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I see alot of goodies there Streetz, goodluck with the build.
Why cant we all just get along & go after the domestics?.lol
Btw my cometic head gaskets hold up just fine.
well, i was referring to the gaskets once mixed with 300+ hp.. not doubting your belief in them, just from what ive been reading.. they dont like boost or heat too much more then stock gaskets
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Originally Posted by ghostmax301
well, i was referring to the gaskets once mixed with 300+ hp.. not doubting your belief in them, just from what ive been reading.. they dont like boost or heat too much more then stock gaskets
My gaskets are mixed with 300+hp(stock ecu) so I def belive in them. I frequent my 350z and I take most of the info with a grain of salt. Dont get me wrong there is a lot of usefull info on there but most of the time products/setups/engines fail due to poor/inproper installation/tuning.
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My gaskets are mixed with 300+hp(stock ecu) so I def belive in them. I frequent my 350z and I take most of the info with a grain of salt. Dont get me wrong there is a lot of usefull info on there but most of the time products/setups/engines fail due to poor/inproper installation/tuning.
o,mmmk. In your opinion, do you think ARP L19s are necessary or ill be ok with OEM head studs
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o,mmmk. In your opinion, do you think ARP L19s are necessary or ill be ok with OEM head studs
Some have made crazy power on a "stock block" with "oem" parts. In my opinoin I would at least install standard arp studs while your in there (personal preference) L19's are considered "overkill" for your goals(550hp) but My best advice is to build your car to your likings.
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Since everybody else his high jacking streetz' thread, I might as well.

First off, way to make quick progress Streetz! You've never been a person to just sit around thinking about stuff. I bet you are going to have TWO engine swaps and builds done in your car before it takes me to finish my ONE engine swap project. lol

But, what does everyone think about thicker head gaskets? The stock VQ35DE and VQ35HR head gasket measure .024" compressed. Is there a reliable head gasket out there that is as good as or better than OEM HR with a compressed thickness of around .030"?

I would really like to go with a VQ35HR head gasket simply b/c of the better cooling passages. But, I may have to use a thicker HG since my machinist removed a tad too much material from my heads.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Since everybody else his high jacking streetz' thread, I might as well.

First off, way to make quick progress Streetz! You've never been a person to just sit around thinking about stuff. I bet you are going to have TWO engine swaps and builds done in your car before it takes me to finish my ONE engine swap project. lol

But, what does everyone think about thicker head gaskets? The stock VQ35DE and VQ35HR head gasket measure .024" compressed. Is there a reliable head gasket out there that is as good as or better than OEM HR with a compressed thickness of around .030"?

I would really like to go with a VQ35HR head gasket simply b/c of the better cooling passages. But, I may have to use a thicker HG since my machinist removed a tad too much material from my heads.

Thanks.
I havent done too much research yet on different headgaskets but i have seen a few people recommending the HRs but I "believe" that the cosmetic and cosworth HGs are available in different thicknesses
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Im not trying to thread jack I just figured this is on topic somewhat...lol From what I saw in your thread you are .001" over the limit. In my opinion any one of the gaskets should set you back within spec.
http://www.cometic.com/sportcompact.aspx
http://www.cometic.com/custom.aspx
http://www.350zmod.com/HKS-Metal-Hea...3001-an002.htm
I wonder how hard it would be to remove material from a aftermarket hg to fit as a hr gasket?(for your cooling preference)

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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Since everybody else his high jacking streetz' thread, I might as well.

First off, way to make quick progress Streetz! You've never been a person to just sit around thinking about stuff. I bet you are going to have TWO engine swaps and builds done in your car before it takes me to finish my ONE engine swap project. lol

But, what does everyone think about thicker head gaskets? The stock VQ35DE and VQ35HR head gasket measure .024" compressed. Is there a reliable head gasket out there that is as good as or better than OEM HR with a compressed thickness of around .030"?

I would really like to go with a VQ35HR head gasket simply b/c of the better cooling passages. But, I may have to use a thicker HG since my machinist removed a tad too much material from my heads.

Thanks.
Aaron, HKS claims a thickness of .7 mm for this one: (Tracking one on ebay) (copy-and-paste suck)


Part Number Make Application Gasket Type Bore (mm) Compression Ration Thickness (mm)
23001-AN002 Nissan/Infiniti G35/350z VQ35DE motor * include right and left gasket* Stopper 97 10.3 0.7

I THINK this is .0285 " ?? and they're not cheap.... $318.00

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Guys I dont mind the thread hijacking as long as its on topic, this is very useful information for my build and for others in the future, so keep it going. I need to pick a head gasket now, so I also gotta do some researching, I might lead more towards HR perhaps, just gotta make sure what exacly needs to be modified or ported (gotta check out the JWT site, they have info on making it work), Yea aaron, i dont like waiting around, i just get things done lol.

I just placed an order for Wiseco 8.8:1 96mm pistons!! looks like probably end of this week or starting next im goin to have block bored out, balanced, and ready to go! i say within less than a month im back on the road. Now my next purchase is bearings, and head gasket.
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Originally Posted by accordingtou
Im not trying to thread jack I just figured this is on topic somewhat...lol From what I saw in your thread you are .001" over the limit. In my opinion any one of the gaskets should set you back within spec.
http://www.cometic.com/sportcompact.aspx
http://www.cometic.com/custom.aspx
http://www.350zmod.com/HKS-Metal-Hea...3001-an002.htm
I wonder how hard it would be to remove material from a aftermarket hg to fit as a hr gasket?(for your cooling preference)
Thanks. You can't take a DE head gasket and make it into an HR gasket since you will have to plug up several of the coolant ports as well as cut new ones.

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Aaron, HKS claims a thickness of .7 mm for this one: (Tracking one on ebay) (copy-and-paste suck)


Part Number Make Application Gasket Type Bore (mm) Compression Ration Thickness (mm)
23001-AN002 Nissan/Infiniti G35/350z VQ35DE motor * include right and left gasket* Stopper 97 10.3 0.7

I THINK this is .0285 " ?? and they're not cheap.... $318.00

Yeah. I noticed those. Thanks. I'm not sure if .7 is a compressed number or not. But if it is, then it's only 3 thou thicker than stock.

My VQ35HR triple layer HGs from DaveB were only $50.

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/wol...HEAD_BOLTS.pdf

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Guys I dont mind the thread hijacking as long as its on topic, this is very useful information for my build and for others in the future, so keep it going. I need to pick a head gasket now, so I also gotta do some researching, I might lead more towards HR perhaps, just gotta make sure what exacly needs to be modified or ported (gotta check out the JWT site, they have info on making it work), Yea aaron, i dont like waiting around, i just get things done lol.

I just placed an order for Wiseco 8.8:1 96mm pistons!! looks like probably end of this week or starting next im goin to have block bored out, balanced, and ready to go! i say within less than a month im back on the road. Now my next purchase is bearings, and head gasket.
Thanks.



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