No, I will be getting OEM main bolts

 

I snapped some photos of the short block - just because. This was $958, including some glass-bead cleanup work and chamfering the oil holes. This block package includes the '05 block, CP 11:1 96mm pistons with top and skirt coatings, HD wrist pins, Carrillo H-beam rods with Carr fasteners. And the labor of assembly...




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Piston views:



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HR Head gaskets:

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Rev Up oil pump:

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Like IHOP - "stack o' heads" : (for a later project)

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Harold that looks awesome, question, what is meant by "glass-bead cleanup work and chamfering the oil holes" exactly. cleaning the holes on the crank?

 

I have a question, using my component, eagle h beam rods, wiseco 8.8:1 pistons, acl bearings, hr/cometic head gasket, hr head bolts. How much power should I be able to take it too safely? I believe I read somewhere that using the stock block u can get too around 550whp without having to sleeve. What you guys think?

 

The general consensus from the 350z community is to limit power to 550whp for an unsleeved vq35. My setup is very similar to what you are putting together, and I personally would not worry about taking it up a notch, but traction is SEVERLY limiting.

IMO, street practicality starts getting lost with anything north of 400whp

 

looks real good

 

They did some glass-bead blasting on the block, and countersunk the oil feed holes to the bearings to get more oil into the bearings...

I'm going to get the LIM, timing covers and oil pans glass-beaded as well - just because... I have another set of intake manifolds, and I plan on getting at least the lower manifold ported to match the Cosworth heads, and it needs cleaned up a bit. I may find some more things to blast.

 

Amen to that... Since I got my fuel supply issues fixed, I set my car to 405 WHP with two stages, and that is dangerous on the highways - you tend to fall off the road. Heck, even with the new 75-shot configuration, and with the big BFG DRs on, first gear is useless, second gear is dangerous, and third gear is scary on the street.

I'm planning on going to KCIR on Saturday and stretch the Shark's legs a bit......

 

Wow, I like those HC pistons

 

Harol and Andres, did your shop's use a torque plate to bore and hone your blocks? I just spoke with another shop (Mesa Balancing) and the guy knows his VQ's really well, he also said his one of the only shops around that uses torque plate, etc.., although everything sounded good and I liked how he spoke about what he knew, his price is DOUBLE! of what I had been quoted at the other shop (that does not use torque plate), They quoted me $1,829!!!!

 

My shop used a torque plate for cylinder boring, and also checked the mains bore - align-boring was not necessary on this block - everyone was pleasantly surprised. I got people.... these guys build serious race engines for oval track, dirt track, and drag strip racing, (and some Hondas!) so they get lots of practice with lots of race engines.

"Do it right or go home"...

The quoted price doesn't compute - were you looking "easy" that day?

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I called them and got quote via email. I might be doing the boring and honing with the expensive shop since they have a torque plate, and do everything else at the cheaper shop.

 

Any other shops around your area ??? Maybe call one in another nearby city for a comparison price ???

 

No boring or honing on my block. I used the stock bore pistons/rings and just had the assembly balanced. I paid $275 for the balancing, and it included balancing my 6-speed hybrid (with CPS ring) flywheel. That's all I paid for, I assembled everything else in my garage

 

Cometic gaskets REQUIRE that the head and desk surface be machined really smooth (50 RA)...

http://www.cometic.com/faq.aspx#q4

No problem with Cometic gaskets in the domestic world, especially with the Gen 1 and LS-style small-block Chevys.

 

The heads and block should already be MUCH smoother than 50 RA straight from the factory. So, if you are able to clean them up without scratching them, then you should be fine. The stock head gaskets are also MLS HGs and require the same type of surface.

To anybody reading, be careful cleaning up the block and head surfaces. Do not use an abrasive pad that could scratch it. I only used plastic gasket scrapers, lots of acetone, and several hours of elbow grease.

I would try not to bother resurfacing the heads or block unless they absolutely need it due to scratches, dings, or minor warpage. In my case, I had to get my heads resurfaced cause the head slipped out of my hand on the bench and hit a bolt which put a small ding in the firering area of the head. I measured the ding at exactly .003" deep, so only 4 thou was needed to clean up the surface.

 

Good info guys, thanx for the input Aaron. I went ahead and ordered HR head gasket, HR head bolt, DE main cap bolts, and new Rev up oil pump (thanx to Dave B for all the parts). The block should be done being bored and honed today. Once i get it, i will be taking it to the other machine shop to have it, oh I had a question for you guys, meximax told me he didnt file fit his piston rings, the shop I am going to do the stuff at told me his going to file fit the rings, can someone explain to me what exactly does this mean? and is it something required? the shop thats doing the boring told me, sometimes 90% of wiseco rings come bigger, so if thats the case I have to order a set of file fit rings, , By being to big does that mean when you compress them, the rings ends will touch?

 

Performance pistons/rings specify a certain gap where the rings almost touch when the rings are slid down in the bore. To get the exact gap, you will almost certainly have to file by hand each ring to get the gap. Mine were all hand-filed for this reason. As shipped, end-gap can vary- a lot.

It does make you wonder why the supplier couldn't do that for you, but.....

If you get lucky with the rings you buy, you can slip a ring into the cylinder bore and mike the gap, and it will be within spec. Don't count on it, though...

 

YAY!!!!!!

I finally got my Micrometer in the mail few hours ago. Saw a couple of youtube "how to" videos on how to use it lol. and the crank i have measures in spec, every single journal, EXACTLY how the fsm says to the .0001. I just ordered ACL bearings $130shipped including thrust, mains and rod bearing. Im anxious to finish this already!!!

Should be getting back the block this week from being bored and honed, then once rings get here, give it all to the other shop, to have everytyhing else done, still debating if to assemble myself or let the OG do it, since I dont have any clean indoor space to work on the block. backyard+windy+grass+dirt+assemble motor = blown motor from debree in bearings lol

 

Here is some eye candy! block with bored/honed cylinders ftw!

 

Nice man, I am glad you are getting it worked out. Boosted 3.5's are a crazy ride. Next upgrade:tires!

 

Nice!

 

You know, if you look closely, I'm pretty sure cylinder #4 isn't round.

 

Which pistons were the bores fitted to? I meant to ask earlier but it slipped my mind.

 

Wiseco 96mm

 

Hmmm... where did this block come from? I see the center water port opened on this one... pathy ??

 

haha, your just saying that because you feel threaten!!!

 

not sure where the block came from, but all fwd 3.5's have the port there, if you see closely it does not have an opening on the actual bottom of the port that leads into cooling system. I am considering in the future drilling it out and using the DEK coolant stuff for better cooling, but thats down the line when i see the cooling system might need some upgrade.

 

I guess it just looked different to me - the block I'm building now- that location doesn't have drilled holes :

 

Weird! My VQ35 has the bolt holes drilled and threaded, but no access to the main coolant passage. I got my engine from a 2002 Maxima. Where did you get yours?

 

He purchased the block from me and was originally from a 2002 maxima.

 

It's weird how there are subtle difference like this even though it's from the same year car.

 

My bad.. I was referring to streetz's block.

 

It seems nissan didnt wanna make up their mind with this whole coolant thing lol.

 

Thats obvious with a lot of things Nissan does

 

Not as bad as GM . my 02 camaro still has the damn hump on the passenger side floor for where the massive catalytic converter from the 80s sat... a-holes never sunk it back down even after years and years of the cats being moved to the headers... brilliant, simply brilliant

I was talkng to streetz about it. One day later this year Im going to remove the carpet, remove passenger side t-top, and just go downtown on that hump with a sledge hammer (I think it will make for quite the interesting youtube vid )

Back on subject!- The parts look great in person! The pictures dont do it justice IMO

 

OK the following accured on monday 3/30/09

I looked in my rear view mirror just in time to see cyl#1's wrist pin skipping down the street. lol
Now im forced to assemble something I had sitting around for almost two years. I sent the longblock to a local machine shop & he decided to bore the block without out a tq plate. (not to mention he was taking all year). So now I have to save up & ship it out to a specialist. Wish me luck as I always do to you guys.

 

wow. Any odd things you noticed right before it happened?

 

Yeah it made the sound of a built subaru.lol
Seriously I had a nitrous backfire the day before