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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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Opinions on G-Force, Falken FK-451, or Other Recomendations

I'm going to be needing some new rubber sooner than i planned, the last mech messed with front camber and now my inner bridgestones RE750's are bald! (long story)

But anyways, i'm looking at a 235/40/R18 size tire. The bridgestones were awesome but i just can't afford to spend 175$ per tire. So here is what i've narrowed it down to so far from what i've read:

BF Goodrich g-Force Sport ~$125
Falken GR Beta FK-451 ~$118

Anyone have experience with either of these? or can reccomend a good tire for me? Right now i'm kind of leaning towards the BF Goodrich's....

Rims are Volk GT-N 18X8 37mm offset if you think i should use a different size.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Go with the BFGoodrich. Falken 451 is a horrible tire in my opinion.

I have the BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW-2 now and they are great tires.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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They would both be alright. Have you looked at Falken's new tire the FK-452? Supposedly the 451 is discontinued and the 452 is replacing the 451. I've heard people bragging about their Toyo Proxes 4 too. I would also consider 245/40/18.
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by limsandy
They would both be alright. Have you looked at Falken's new tire the FK-452? Supposedly the 451 is discontinued and the 452 is replacing the 451. I've heard people bragging about their Toyo Proxes 4 too. I would also consider 245/40/18.
Yeah i was considering 245's but i'm already very close to the outside of the wheel well because of the offset of the wheels.

Anyone know if sumitomo makes a good tire? Like the HTR+'s..
Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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sumitomo's wear out fast. why dont u go with the azenis st115. you can pick em up cheap since they are on a close out sale
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by VIP Maxima
sumitomo's wear out fast. why dont u go with the azenis st115. you can pick em up cheap since they are on a close out sale
Hey, do you know if they're going to discontine the ST-115 also? How come they're so cheap?
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:13 AM
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sumitomo's wear out fast. why dont u go with the azenis st115. you can pick em up cheap since they are on a close out sale
I don't see them on closeout anymore . Otherwise i was going to buy them.
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from what ive heard the st-115 is going to be discontinued too.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...fcs=*&x=41&y=7

cant beat 360AA treadwear !

they dont have em in 235/40 but they do have em in 245/40
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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from what ive heard the st-115 is going to be discontinued too.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...fcs=*&x=41&y=7

cant beat 360AA treadwear !

they dont have em in 235/40 but they do have em in 245/40
Ahh, 245. I dont' know if i can go that wide with the offset i'm running. I'm already very close to the fender.

Old Jul 14, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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damn tahts a tough choice. you can lower it a tad bit if it doesnt fit.... thats exactly how my car sits too lol
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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lol, i guess. Well today while driving around a friend said i had sparks coming out of my tires on a corner....looks like i'll be needing these soon! lol.
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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I say go with the Falken GRB 451...or 452 for that matter...they make them in 235/40/18!
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by limsandy
They would both be alright. Have you looked at Falken's new tire the FK-452? Supposedly the 451 is discontinued and the 452 is replacing the 451. I've heard people bragging about their Toyo Proxes 4 too. I would also consider 245/40/18.
They are not both alright. The 451 is a bad tire. Do not go that route.
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 03maxima1
They are not both alright. The 451 is a bad tire. Do not go that route.

Care to explain more? Or is it just one bad apple in a thousand lot?
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by limsandy
Care to explain more? Or is it just one bad apple in a thousand lot?
Noisy, quick tread wear, traction is a bit poor with aggressive driving unless the tires are warmed up and your on dry pavement, handling is a bit poor on wet pavement. I have also had a bad experience with them. When I was having my car worked on the tech noticed that the sidewall on the back of the tire was ripping apart as though someone slit it with a blade 3 of the tires had this issue. The front wheels were worse. So I took them back to where I bought them and got a credit. But I guess you get what you pay for. The only plus with these tires is they look good and are cheap.
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 03maxima1
Noisy, quick tread wear, traction is a bit poor with aggressive driving unless the tires are warmed up and your on dry pavement, handling is a bit poor on wet pavement. I have also had a bad experience with them. When I was having my car worked on the tech noticed that the sidewall on the back of the tire was ripping apart as though someone slit it with a blade 3 of the tires had this issue. The front wheels were worse. So I took them back to where I bought them and got a credit. But I guess you get what you pay for. The only plus with these tires is they look good and are cheap.

I wonder what size you're running?
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by limsandy
I wonder what size you're running?
I was running 225-40-18.
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Noisy, quick tread wear, traction and handling is subjective, so I won't go into those but it seems you're quite an aggressive driver. As for the back of the sidewall getting ripped, it seems that your tire size is under-sized. OEM tires have 93 load rating and I checked Falken's website and found out that their 225/40/18 only have 88 load rating. The increased stress on the tires might have caused this and it's only natural that the front tires are worse because there is more weight in the front, where the engine is.

I have more questions for you. What is your tire pressure set at? What is the width of your wheels? Who installed the tires and wheels onto your car?
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by limsandy
I have more questions for you. What is your tire pressure set at? What is the width of your wheels? Who installed the tires and wheels onto your car?
1)Don't remember. This was a while ago.
2)18x8.
3)Tuner shop.
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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I now run 235-40-18.
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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I have Falken 451...they are the loudest tire I have ever used in my life, louder than my winter tires. They are dangerous in the rain and run wayyyy too hot in the dry. I called Falken asking why they are down to wear bars within 2 summers of driving and they replyed with..."thats why we discontiuned the 451's, they wear way too fast. The replacment is a 452."

Don't bother with Falken....BFG all the way

BTW I run a 245/40/18 on a 18x8
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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I had BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW-2s for years....great all-season tire!
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 03maxima1
Go with the BFGoodrich. Falken 451 is a horrible tire in my opinion.

I have the BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW-2 now and they are great tires.
my roomate had these on his mazda 3 and absolutely loved them
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by aparker813
my roomate had these on his mazda 3 and absolutely loved them
Which tire?
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